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 Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:08 am
What are your thoughts on Mercy Killing? (Euthanasia in some terms)
Is it condoned in the Bible?
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:14 am
Scarlet_Teardrops
Suppose that it's a mercy killing.
God is a God of mercy, yes?
Is it possible that, in certain situations, mercy killing is moral?
Have you ever listened to Metallica's song, One?
It's about a soldier who stepped on a land mine. He can't see or hear, and he's pretty much just a vegetable hooked up to machines. His life is now a world of only darkness and pain.
Is it right to keep him "alive", even though he's suffering?
Think about it. If you were in his position, wouldn't you want somebody to put you out of your misery?
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:30 pm
I personally think that the Bible does not condone Euthanasia. But similarly to suicide, I cannot see it as 'wrong' as such as each situation is unique. Although some situations may seem hopeless that the individual may want to die, people's situations have turned around.
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:26 pm
allleila I personally think that the Bible does not condone Euthanasia. But similarly to suicide, I cannot see it as 'wrong' as such as each situation is unique. Although some situations may seem hopeless that the individual may want to die, people's situations have turned around.
What if you're only a vegetable being kept alive by machines? All you feel is pain and you're suffering. You can't move. There is no turning around from that.
There's a difference between suicide and euthanasia in the sense that for suicide there is always hope. For euthanasia "victims", there is no hope.
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:56 am
Concerning the whole being a vegetable thing, maybe those doctors should have got off their butts and actually try to save his life, instead of just hook him up to a machine to keep him alive. I know, that even with our limited technology, and with the grace of God, we can give him a life again.
In my opinion, just my opinion, euthenasia is an unnecessary evil. In the case of pets, just because the pet is old or a menace or if there is just no room for them, does not mean that they should be put down. It just means that the old ones need love in their golden years, the menaces need reform, and the ones that there is no room for needs a home. In the case of humans, for the vegetables, you could just do a little science to make life possible for them, pray to God for a miracle, or hey, not keep them alive by unnatural means at all! For the menaces of society who are unarguably evil, lock them up in the most secure of prisons in the most remote of places, and be done with it.
In my opinion, again, my opinion, euthanizing is like abortion. It is wrong.
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:02 pm
But what if the pet is suffering and you can't afford the necessary treatments, or there simply isn't a treatment?
There isn't a treatment for everything.
I don't believe euthanizing is like an abortion, at all. There are major differences between the two.
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:13 pm
We've had to put pets down before. It happens. I remember a little puppy that was very, very sick. He had fleas crawling out of his ears and nose, plus he was practically a skeleton with a paper covering. Papa took him out, I heard a bang, and never saw the puppy again. The bullet was far, far better than the fleas that were eating him alive from the inside out.
And then you have people. It is harder for me to answer. This is one of those things where I know the right answer, but I'm not sure if I could actually follow through on that in every case. The mercy killing takes faith away from the Father, and places it on self. Never should that happen. Whatever happens, He has a reason for. All things come to good for those who serve Him.
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:12 pm
recently had a big discussion with my young catholics group about this.
first of all we must decided what IS euthanasia
it is our job on this earth to live. to keep other people alive. therefore someone who WANTS to die should not be aloud to as it is suicide which IS murder.
however it is our job to adhere to the law of nature that the lord imposed upon us. to let death take its natural course. to refuse treatment its not mercy killing as its the natural course. ie. some one that is relying on machines to keep them alive. to turn off the machine is to folow the natural course.
in the milatary sometimes one will be faced with a decision. a soldier is mortally wounded there is no hope but to leave him means the enemy could find him and torture him in his last moments. that again is just cause so is okay.
again again is hurt but not motal however the unit cannot take him/her with them but neither can they stay and cannot leave him/her behind as the enemy will use the injured soldier to gain seriously damaging informatian. again it is a JUST cause so is also okay.
actualy having to give something to someone intending to kill them is wrong and should not be done. if you must CAUSE their death it goes against God. if God wanted them home he would of taken them already.
just because a human is in pain doesnt not justify their death.
those soldiers is justified because if not done, the lives of many will be indangerd. Someone with cancer or any other such problem will not be indangering any one ther for is straight murder and is wrong.
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:14 pm
also one thing we must remeber when it comes to animals is that God has placed us higher than them.
Taking the life of an animal in pain is very diiferent from a human.
We are part devine an animal while is may or may not have a soul is not.
We are made in the image of the Lord not animals.
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:22 pm
Scarlet_Teardrops Scarlet_Teardrops
Suppose that it's a mercy killing.
God is a God of mercy, yes?
Is it possible that, in certain situations, mercy killing is moral?
Have you ever listened to Metallica's song, One?
It's about a soldier who stepped on a land mine. He can't see or hear, and he's pretty much just a vegetable hooked up to machines. His life is now a world of only darkness and pain.
Is it right to keep him "alive", even though he's suffering?
Think about it. If you were in his position, wouldn't you want somebody to put you out of your misery?
why does God no take them home? it is not our place to quest the Holy Father. If they are still alive then God has a purpose for that. If you take the life of one who suffers you are puting yourself above God. •Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. (Verse 3) •Blessed are the meek: for they shall possess the land. (Verse 4) •Blessed are they who mourn: for they shall be comforted. (Verse 5) •Blessed are they that hunger and thirst after justice: for they shall have their fill. (Verse 6) •Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. (Verse 7) •Blessed are the clean of heart: for they shall see God. (Verse cool •Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. (Verse 9) •Blessed are they that suffer persecution for justice' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. (Verse 10)
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:26 pm
People suffer for a reason. Catholics believe that suffering helps souls in Purgatory. (I will look that up again and go more in depth if you like.)
Euthanasia is just an euphemism for suicide and murder. Think of this: what if the person you think is suffering, doesn't mind the suffering? I would prefer not being on life support, but if it happened, I would rather lie there suffering until God decided to bring me home to Heaven himself, or give me back to my family for a while longer. Other people cannot truly answer for someone else. If one cannot continue paying for the treatment, the death is seen as an unwanted, but unavoidable outcome.
Even ancient pagans would not allow euthanasia.
The Original Hippocratic Oath: (emphasis added) Quote: I swear by Apollo, the healer, Asclepius, Hygieia, and Panacea, and I take to witness all the gods, all the goddesses, to keep according to my ability and my judgment, the following Oath and agreement:
To consider dear to me, as my parents, him who taught me this art; to live in common with him and, if necessary, to share my goods with him; To look upon his children as my own brothers, to teach them this art.
I will prescribe regimens for the good of my patients according to my ability and my judgment and never do harm to anyone.
I will not give a lethal drug to anyone if I am asked, nor will I advise such a plan; and similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion.
But I will preserve the purity of my life and my arts.
I will not cut for stone, even for patients in whom the disease is manifest; I will leave this operation to be performed by practitioners, specialists in this art.
In every house where I come I will enter only for the good of my patients, keeping myself far from all intentional ill-doing and all seduction and especially from the pleasures of love with women or with men, be they free or slaves.
All that may come to my knowledge in the exercise of my profession or in daily commerce with men, which ought not to be spread abroad, I will keep secret and will never reveal.
If I keep this oath faithfully, may I enjoy my life and practice my art, respected by all men and in all times; but if I swerve from it or violate it, may the reverse be my lot.
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:58 pm
Depends on the situation.
In the case of vegetables (not to be confused with comatose), they're brain-dead. This basically means the only reason they're still "alive" is that machines are keeping the heart beating. That person is never going to wake up, their soul may have already gone to Heaven. Why keep the body alive any longer?
With someone with terminal cancer, why force them to stay alive when they're relying on morphine to keep the pain away? They're suffering physically and emotionally.
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:12 pm
well the bible says not to kill so i won't mercy kill. ever. do not murder isn't something that can have multilpe meanings. it is simple. do. not. murder. or do. not. kill. kill means killing.
can't get much easier than that.
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:56 pm
The Bible says not to kill final word on it. There is not a guessing game with the bible, it says not to kill period. I personal have a living will, I would sugest for anyone in hear who is not confutable with there family making a choice with what to do in that area.
My grandfather had a living will, but they revved(Sp) him anyways, this put the pressure on my grandmother to pull the plug. It broke her heart to do that to someone that she loved for over 60 years. This is why so many people will leave there loves ones on life support.
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:48 pm
My rabbit got infected with myxomatosis- an incurable rabbit disease that was originally made to kill wild rabbits (heh heh). She was suffering real bad and we knew eventually she'll die- so we reluctantly put her down.
This is just an animal's case but a human's is much more complicated.
You can only do what you can, like in My Sister's Keeper. We have a limit to what we can do- only God has the complete shelf of medicines. I'm not confident on mercy killing for humans, but I know we can only leave our number of days up to God.
I don't think mercy killing as on option for humans.
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