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TheAngelOnAcid

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 2:02 pm


Why isnt there a topic for taekwondo???

I LOVE this sport. I love the fast action, the rush you feel during sparring, the high and fast kicks.

I am a tall girl with long legs so im CREATED for this martial art razz

Who else practices TKD?
PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 2:03 pm


Can you give us anything from history to techniques to terminology of tae kwon do ...

mistermma


lady_cagefighter

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 2:15 pm


How would you counteract against a grappling art ... like wrestling ...
PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 2:43 pm


My brother-in-law and sister practice TKD of the ITF school of thought. They'd flinch pretty hard at it being called a "sport" but as for me, I like watching the competitions. Never had much interest in the art myself beyond how to counteract it though.

quiet_way
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God Emperor Akhenaton

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 4:11 pm


ladymma
How would you counteract against a grappling art ... like wrestling ...

At green belt and beyond in ITF, they learn grappling.
PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 4:16 pm


God Emperor Akhenaton
ladymma
How would you counteract against a grappling art ... like wrestling ...

At green belt and beyond in ITF, they learn grappling.


Well there is grappling and then there is GRAPPLING ... what I meant was like a very high level, top of the food chain typ of deal against TKD...

lady_cagefighter


God Emperor Akhenaton

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 4:21 pm


ladymma
God Emperor Akhenaton
ladymma
How would you counteract against a grappling art ... like wrestling ...

At green belt and beyond in ITF, they learn grappling.


Well there is grappling and then there is GRAPPLING ... what I meant was like a very high level, top of the food chain typ of deal against TKD...

Someone can't win a grappling fight against a grappler. But at the same time, a grappler can't win a fist fight against a blackbelt in the ITF.
PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 4:23 pm


God Emperor Akhenaton
ladymma
God Emperor Akhenaton
ladymma
How would you counteract against a grappling art ... like wrestling ...

At green belt and beyond in ITF, they learn grappling.


Well there is grappling and then there is GRAPPLING ... what I meant was like a very high level, top of the food chain typ of deal against TKD...

Someone can't win a grappling fight against a grappler. But at the same time, a grappler can't win a fist fight against a blackbelt in the ITF.


I'm not asking who would win ... a striker going to a pure grappling setting will no doubt lose ... what I am asking is how would a high level TKD black belt counteract a high level grappler ... like if taken down how the TKD fighter get back to his feet and stay there ...

lady_cagefighter


God Emperor Akhenaton

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 5:16 pm


ladymma
God Emperor Akhenaton
ladymma
God Emperor Akhenaton
ladymma
How would you counteract against a grappling art ... like wrestling ...

At green belt and beyond in ITF, they learn grappling.


Well there is grappling and then there is GRAPPLING ... what I meant was like a very high level, top of the food chain typ of deal against TKD...

Someone can't win a grappling fight against a grappler. But at the same time, a grappler can't win a fist fight against a blackbelt in the ITF.


I'm not asking who would win ... a striker going to a pure grappling setting will no doubt lose ... what I am asking is how would a high level TKD black belt counteract a high level grappler ... like if taken down how the TKD fighter get back to his feet and stay there ...

Yes he would. Your flaw is that you think grappling is the golden ticket to winning a fight. The motto of TKD is to deliver a knockout or even killing blow to an enemy in the first hit and if that didn't work, then their opponent is faced with 100+ combination attacks.
PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 5:39 am


God Emperor Akhenaton
ladymma
God Emperor Akhenaton
ladymma
God Emperor Akhenaton
ladymma
How would you counteract against a grappling art ... like wrestling ...

At green belt and beyond in ITF, they learn grappling.


Well there is grappling and then there is GRAPPLING ... what I meant was like a very high level, top of the food chain typ of deal against TKD...

Someone can't win a grappling fight against a grappler. But at the same time, a grappler can't win a fist fight against a blackbelt in the ITF.


I'm not asking who would win ... a striker going to a pure grappling setting will no doubt lose ... what I am asking is how would a high level TKD black belt counteract a high level grappler ... like if taken down how the TKD fighter get back to his feet and stay there ...

Yes he would. Your flaw is that you think grappling is the golden ticket to winning a fight. The motto of TKD is to deliver a knockout or even killing blow to an enemy in the first hit and if that didn't work, then their opponent is faced with 100+ combination attacks.
It has been my experience that a TKD black belt, while tending towards striking still has a very potent ground game. Those legs of theirs are incredibly powerful and flexible (my brother-in-law goes through cinder blocks like they were made of styrofoam) and if the TKD person can put you in their guard they have some innovative variants on standard grapples. I believe the most painful one I experienced was a simple midriff lock. The person I had pinned down simply figure-4-ed his legs around me and proceeded to squeeze until I couldn't breath anymore. Not to mention, many schools of TKD these days also teach BJJ or Judo variants to cover what many see as a weakness of the art. For myself, I will never dismiss the ground game of a TKD player again. Against a pure grappler, their options may be limited, but don't count them out just because they don't focus on it. It is a poor misconception to think that TKD is all strikes and flash. And their ground and pound... I shudder to think. Ask any wrestler, powerful legs are the basis of a good takedown game.

quiet_way
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baka_boy1221
Captain

PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 10:47 am


So how would a TKD fighter adapt their style to MMA ...
PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 11:00 am


God Emperor Akhenaton
ladymma
God Emperor Akhenaton
ladymma
God Emperor Akhenaton
ladymma
How would you counteract against a grappling art ... like wrestling ...

At green belt and beyond in ITF, they learn grappling.


Well there is grappling and then there is GRAPPLING ... what I meant was like a very high level, top of the food chain typ of deal against TKD...

Someone can't win a grappling fight against a grappler. But at the same time, a grappler can't win a fist fight against a blackbelt in the ITF.


I'm not asking who would win ... a striker going to a pure grappling setting will no doubt lose ... what I am asking is how would a high level TKD black belt counteract a high level grappler ... like if taken down how the TKD fighter get back to his feet and stay there ...

Yes he would. Your flaw is that you think grappling is the golden ticket to winning a fight. The motto of TKD is to deliver a knockout or even killing blow to an enemy in the first hit and if that didn't work, then their opponent is faced with 100+ combination attacks.


Again not what I'm asking ... Grapplers have a clear cut disadvantage when it comes to striking ... that's a given ... what I asked is how a TKD fighter would counter-act ... a grappler ...

For example:
You (the TKD fighter) have been taken down and the grappler is in side control ... you have one arm pinned by their legs ... the other arm is held by the grappler's hand ... and the grappler's free hand is raining down blows ... how do you get out of that position ... and then from there get back into a neutral position (like full guard) or to your feet (where you have the clear cut advantage in striking) ...

lady_cagefighter


God Emperor Akhenaton

PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 11:16 am


baka_boy1221
So how would a TKD fighter adapt their style to MMA ...

For one, it's practical in real life. Secondly, it teaches about everything.
PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 11:21 am


ladymma
God Emperor Akhenaton
ladymma
God Emperor Akhenaton
ladymma


Well there is grappling and then there is GRAPPLING ... what I meant was like a very high level, top of the food chain typ of deal against TKD...

Someone can't win a grappling fight against a grappler. But at the same time, a grappler can't win a fist fight against a blackbelt in the ITF.


I'm not asking who would win ... a striker going to a pure grappling setting will no doubt lose ... what I am asking is how would a high level TKD black belt counteract a high level grappler ... like if taken down how the TKD fighter get back to his feet and stay there ...

Yes he would. Your flaw is that you think grappling is the golden ticket to winning a fight. The motto of TKD is to deliver a knockout or even killing blow to an enemy in the first hit and if that didn't work, then their opponent is faced with 100+ combination attacks.


Again not what I'm asking ... Grapplers have a clear cut disadvantage when it comes to striking ... that's a given ... what I asked is how a TKD fighter would counter-act ... a grappler ...

For example:
You (the TKD fighter) have been taken down and the grappler is in side control ... you have one arm pinned by their legs ... the other arm is held by the grappler's hand ... and the grappler's free hand is raining down blows ... how do you get out of that position ... and then from there get back into a neutral position (like full guard) or to your feet (where you have the clear cut advantage in striking) ...

If I am being pinned by one of their legs, then that means that my legs have leverage. I would rotate the hips as best as I can, get the leg closest to his knee free and scissor my legs into breaking his knee. He can punch me all he wants and the idea that he would get me in that position is absurd. If one attempts to do it, all I would have to do is push the arms out of the way and uppercut the jaw with force.

God Emperor Akhenaton

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