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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:38 pm
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:12 pm
This is just a driver license exams. It isn't for college or any work place, it's pretty silly to put such limitations on people. I don't think it is fair that as long as you can't speak English, you couldn't drive. Driving has nothing to do with the ability to speak any language at all. It's totally unrelated, and it's best to take such a test in your native tongue, rather than in a language you aren't very good in.
I think that's just silly.
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:33 pm
I'm trying to figure out what signs he's talking about. Since a lot of road signs are identifiable by shape, color and symbol. You really don't need to know English to understand the red octagon means stop. Next he'll try to make International Driving Permits invalid in Alabama. rolleyes
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:22 am
Well, he wasn't referring to the signs as much as he was referring to the written portion of the driver's exam (and even in the case that he was, we see how intelligent he proves to be). Driving a car and looking at the signs doesn't require any language at all, but the theory has to be written in some language.
Personally, I think what he said was terrible, especially the way he said "This is Alabama, people who want to live here need to speak English." Not just drive, but live. >.< I live in Alabama, so I'm sort of used to these corrupt politicians. What he said was really uncalled for.
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Call Me Apple Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:26 am
Saint Ares Vallis I'm trying to figure out what signs he's talking about. Since a lot of road signs are identifiable by shape, color and symbol. You really don't need to know English to understand the red octagon means stop. Next he'll try to make International Driving Permits invalid in Alabama. rolleyes @ bold: Wouldnt that be some s**t? I'll comment the same thing I did earlier on this video, "This is Alabama, you can marry your first cousin" I cant believe Georgia has to sit next to it x3
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:03 am
Call Me Apple Saint Ares Vallis I'm trying to figure out what signs he's talking about. Since a lot of road signs are identifiable by shape, color and symbol. You really don't need to know English to understand the red octagon means stop. Next he'll try to make International Driving Permits invalid in Alabama. rolleyes @ bold: Wouldnt that be some s**t? I'll comment the same thing I did earlier on this video, "This is Alabama, you can marry your first cousin" I cant believe Georgia has to sit next to it x3 Obviously, they know their priorities. :/ It always bothers me when politicians take such stupid worthless causes.
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:29 pm
Yeah this is just politics, they'll find any excuse to get attention for themselves. Saying we should speak english if you live in alabama the way he said it is quite rude, but my point is that if i were to plan on going to another country i would research some of the cultural aspects of it and try to know somthing about how to speak there language before I go and live there much less try to drive around whenever i were to travel to another country.
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:41 pm
I agree, it is the right thing to do. Personally I wouldn't move to a country I wasn't familiar with its language and culture, unless I had no other choice. I think the people this is addressed towards aren't people who have the means and ability to study English where they came from, so I guess it isn't an option to them.
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Henneth Annun Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:56 pm
Now I'm not familiar with Alabama street signs and road directions, but in California, most of them are in symbols. Unless it's the name of a road or something, it's all arrows and simple drawings. Comprehension of those? no English required! (Plus, you can recognize what street names "look like" even if you can't "read" them.)
It's just a drivers license....lots of those people might be recent immigrants and will probably learn English anyways. Just make it available in their language, and once they've learned English everything will be fine. If I'm a businessperson or something from another country who just moved there, and I know how to drive in your country, I want to be able to drive to get to where I need to go dammit! I can drive to English class in my car that I got the license to drive because the exam was in Vietnamese which is the only language I currently speak!
I see where he's coming from, but I think he's over-reacting. If you're getting a license, you're probably going to be making some sort of commitment to the country, and will probably be learning English. If not, they'll leave quickly, and no big deal.
What's this guy worried about? Doesn't the overwhelming majority of Alabama speak English? I mean, how would an immigrant who only speaks Farsi or something even be able to live there without knowing English? Plus, why would such immigrants go to Alabama in the first place? If I were an immigrant, I'd move to an area with some people that know my language so that I could get some help starting off in this new country.
Random side note: Only 4.6 million people in Alabama? Where is everybody?! eek
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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:23 pm
Henneth Annun Random side note: Only 4.6 million people in Alabama? Where is everybody?! eek Far away from Alabama, for good reason rofl
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Henneth Annun Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 8:07 pm
Sockers Henneth Annun Random side note: Only 4.6 million people in Alabama? Where is everybody?! eek Far away from Alabama, for good reason rofl xd
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:04 pm
I'm actually somewhat torn on this. I do think that the US should have an official language that everyone is expected to learn. I honestly don't care what that language is - whether it's Latin, Plains Indian Sign Language, Ainu, or Xhosha - but we need to have a language in common. I live in an area that's definitely linguistically diverse, and as much as I love the diversity, the inability to communicate with people can create problems.
I'm not saying people should lose their cultures and languages when they come here. My family lost two languages (one of which is endangered) and people even had to change their names because the guys at Ellis Island and in the schools couldn't or wouldn't spell foreign names.
So, the question is why someone should need to speak English (or whatever language is declared official) in order to drive. Most signs are symbols - that's true, but not all are. Where I live, there are large signs on the freeway that are changeable - sometimes they're blank, but sometimes they have important information about road conditions, emergencies or traffic and that information is conveyed via text, in English. There are frequently other signs that are text-based (no turn on red, carpool is 3 or more persons (instead of two), begin/end construction zone, etc), whose meaning cannot be divined simply by looking at the shape. I was recently in an area where many of the street signs were in Chinese (in Stockton, CA); I've been driving for a while, but I found it very disconcerting, even distracting - I had no idea where I was going or what the signs might mean.
In case someone is pulled over - whether it's for a traffic violation or because someone's got a flat they haven't noticed - they need to be able to communicate with the police officer. It's totally reasonable to expect the police to learn a second language, but what about areas where there's a third or fourth language that's widely used in the area (not so far fetched - it's the case where I live)? How many languages can we expect the police to learn in order to be able to accommodate everyone? According to the last census, there are sizable minorities who use Spanish, Chinese, Vietnamese and Korean as the primary language, and this is out in the suburbs - how many might it be in a major city?
If someone's in a car accident, they need to be able to communicate to exchange information. Having a language in common would certainly make that process simpler.
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:45 am
What do you expect? Its Alabama! The place sucks.
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