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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:56 pm
So from what I gather you can actual track just about any information at all if you have good enough senses. You can know what a person is doing in a completely different country based of trace bits of energy but it might take time to ferret through everything.
What I have found most useful is that if you can astral project or what not you can find massive libraries with soo much information in it that these things can be simplified. Of course it depends on which library you go to what information you find. Just wondering if anyone else has experience with this
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Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:06 pm
Once I can AP regularly, I'm going to take a look at Japan during the 1500's and 1600's.
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:50 am
aimike3 Once I can AP regularly, I'm going to take a look at Japan during the 1500's and 1600's. Do you have a data source to confirm your readings after you do them?
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:35 pm
I spend about 90% of my day astral projecting into other planes, mostly the spiritual world, but as I am typing right now I am in the shadow world. I have been to Spiritual Japan on many occasions (I'm drawn there because I was Japanese in a past life) and often travel to other physical places through AP, in fact I could go stalk each and every one of you right now if I wanted to. I have been to many vast spiritual libraries, though my senses are still not the best so I often have a hard time reading spiritual books or words, but my senses are good enough to interact with the spiritual world. Often I go to parties in the spiritual world and bars to drink and blow up stuff. I often find myself in the black desert training by creating massive atomic explosions with a special attack I like to call my holy s**t bomb (it's a concentrated ball of pure holy energy that has enough power to take out the entire united states if it were every physical and could take out entire planets if enough energy was pumped into it) and it leaves a beautiful white mushroom cloud but completely drenches the place of explosion with holy energy making it a hazard for any dark being (such as I). Though it is quite fun. I once accidentally took out the entire spiritual counter part of Egypt while fighting some Dahakas... oops. But I brought everyone back to life and restored it, don't worry.
But back on subject, one of my favorite libraries is the High Council Library though you would have to have connections in high places like I do in order to attain entry. But the knowledge contained in their archives is so incredibly vast it is one of the most largest collections of knowledge in the entire spiritual plane.
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:47 pm
Zalinzurai I spend about 90% of my day astral projecting into other planes, mostly the spiritual world, but as I am typing right now I am in the shadow world. I have been to Spiritual Japan on many occasions (I'm drawn there because I was Japanese in a past life) and often travel to other physical places through AP, in fact I could go stalk each and every one of you right now if I wanted to. I have been to many vast spiritual libraries, though my senses are still not the best so I often have a hard time reading spiritual books or words, but my senses are good enough to interact with the spiritual world. Often I go to parties in the spiritual world and bars to drink and blow up stuff. I often find myself in the black desert training by creating massive atomic explosions with a special attack I like to call my holy s**t bomb (it's a concentrated ball of pure holy energy that has enough power to take out the entire united states if it were every physical and could take out entire planets if enough energy was pumped into it) and it leaves a beautiful white mushroom cloud but completely drenches the place of explosion with holy energy making it a hazard for any dark being (such as I). Though it is quite fun. I once accidentally took out the entire spiritual counter part of Egypt while fighting some Dahakas... oops. But I brought everyone back to life and restored it, don't worry. But back on subject, one of my favorite libraries is the High Council Library though you would have to have connections in high places like I do in order to attain entry. But the knowledge contained in their archives is so incredibly vast it is one of the most largest collections of knowledge in the entire spiritual plane. I think you may have some misconceptions... though there are bars in the astral There are many libraries. Private libraries have more content and interest to me. What have you encountered in the library you mention? As to holy energy you may be misconstruing dense energy with holy.
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:16 am
Nope, I know for a fact that the spiritual world has everything that the physical world does, but it also has many things that this plane does not. You just gotta pay attention. wink
And I am not, my attack is made of pure holy energy that is condensed into a small form and rapidly released upon explosion. Then again it could contain dense energy, being that I have never studied the attack as how exactly it achieves the effect it has, I do not fully know what it is made up of. When I make it I simply summon a lot of holy energy and condense it into a compact ball of energy, then I let it go and I release all the energy at once, creating one huge explosion. I made it one day and thought it was cool and have used it over and over. But it is filled with holy energy and leaves a holy fallout after wards.
Well I have only been there once and I was searching for an archive on symbols and wards. I had a book of various symbols that was destroyed. This book was very precious to me as it had many symbols in it from summoning to banishing, to protections, to basic elemental symbols. However when the book was burned by an enemy and I needed to find a replacement. However knowing that the library is so exclusive and the scholars from the High Council use it to refer to archives and knowledge as well as it being the place where they themselves store their own knowledge I know it has massive amounts of information. Though you can only get in by getting permission from a high council member, and you must be accompanied by a scholar. I MIGHT be able to get you in if you are interested.
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:34 am
I said there Are bars the misconceptions I mentioned deal with other subjects.
Pure energy often appears as white, or the energy is very dense. It appears as white as it gives off no associations. Thus it is Pure energy not holy energy. It is said that holy beings can produce pure energy but other beings can't because of their work with intent.
Chaotic dark beings are creatures which are rife with different emotions, the emotions bring color to the energy due to the way which we translate color. Color implies meaning pure energy lacks meaning.
White also implies all spectrums of color depending on how you think about it... excess energy or information it doesn't matter so much.
Dark implies a lack of energy or giving off energy, it means the person is drawing in energy thus the darker aura. Think about how black is the absense of color.
Dark beings can't abide pure energy... for multiple reasons and it depends on the reason why its white why it doesn't work for them and how they themselves process energy. In anycase its much like being lactose intolerant. Or why pure alcohol is poisonous. Sometimes objects need a tinge of color or a tinge of something... emotions in order to be processed by certain beings. In other cases the being is incapable of deciphering the energy... its to ordered or structured and they can't process it. In either case what you said is inaccurate.
There is no holy involved its a common error people percieve. Like I can be darker then any being you've probably met and that does not make me any less holy or less unholy then anyone else.
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:58 am
Okay... I'm stymied. While I can understand people with natural astral-projection ability can and will use it to explore...
While theoretically an explosion could take out the whole of the US, I don't think it's possible for one person to actually control that much energy. I doubt you can actually appreciate the shear amount of energy you're talking about.
I'm talking the force of supervolcanoes here. Hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of times the force behind an atomic bomb, it would take four supervolcanoes to level the US. And the force of only one of these is enough to send the world spiralling into an ice age and kill off a huge percentage of the world's population through decimation of the food chain.
xD Perhaps you were exaggerating a little?
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Niccolo Salomanos Captain
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:54 am
Niccolo Salomanos Okay... I'm stymied. While I can understand people with natural astral-projection ability can and will use it to explore... While theoretically an explosion could take out the whole of the US, I don't think it's possible for one person to actually control that much energy. I doubt you can actually appreciate the shear amount of energy you're talking about. I'm talking the force of supervolcanoes here. Hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of times the force behind an atomic bomb, it would take four supervolcanoes to level the US. And the force of only one of these is enough to send the world spiralling into an ice age and kill off a huge percentage of the world's population through decimation of the food chain. xD Perhaps you were exaggerating a little? I think you're taking it literally, Nick; what Zalin is saying is that he blew people up in the spiritual world of Egypt, which translates as... well, whatever the hell you want it to mean, because it's about as falsifiable as the Celestial Teapot. I question the authenticity of experiences when they're being shared by a person who apparently spends 90% of their day astral projecting into elaborately set up mystical realms, which translates as about 16 hours a day (if we're assuming they sleep for 6 hours) - now, sure, perhaps some Ascended Masters or enlightened beings do that... but do these enlightened beings also spend their downtime discussing how awesome death metal is on Gaia? Probably not. So, either Zalin is exaggerating, or Zalin is outright lying, neither of which paints a very nice portrait of his authenticity and trustworthiness - something that really matters when you're discussing the occult online, because you often have little else than someone's word to go on.
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:02 pm
I'm taking the approach that they either don't understand the nature of the realms i.e. everything is pretty much like silly puddy their depending on where you are and its really easy to make it Look like your doing blah blah blah when really its not that much energy
Or they are being duped by spirits to think that its a big bad thing and its not. So there is a level of ego stroking etc. going on and fulfillment of a specific image or stereotype at work. Hearing what one wants to hear kind of does that
Or they are ******** with people on purpose.
Or they = crazy
I think maybe they may have Some clue as to what they are talking about because they mentioned the common factors that make reading people over distance difficult. They also said that they might not know everything and admitted their ignorance as to how something works which leans me to not crazy and not just outright lying because they may have some idea as to the difficulties involved. Kind of like maybe they do do something.
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:22 pm
... And this is why I don't even bother with places like these. Because obviously I'm crazy and don't know what the hell I'm talking about simply because other people have not had the same experiences.
First off, I may have exaggerated on the 90% thing, don't take me so literally when I say that while I do spend a lot of time in the astral planes because my wife is an astral being I don't spend 16 hours there, maybe 12 hours at the most per day.
Secondly, I can't listen to metal and talk about it? Just because I claim to be a high powerful being does not mean that I don't enjoy going into forums and talking about the music I like. I am after all still human in the physical sense, and even astral beings like music. It's not like oh music? I have evolved beyond the need to listen to it simply because I have mastered astral projection. That is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.
Thirdly, I had several witnesses when I blew up spiritual Egypt, all of which who had far better senses than I. We all saw it and felt it. It's not that hard to harness that much power if you know how. I've seen people with lesser power then me, create entire planets from nothing then blow them up, yes it all happened on the astral planes, but you have to remember, astral or not, it actually did happen and it just as real as a planet being created and destroyed on this plane.
Fourth: Do you realize how hard it is to make claims and prove them? Unless you all have good enough senses that I could show you that I am not lying I couldn't possibly prove my statements true unless I give details that may prove so, as Ishtar stated. Now I would not mind showing you all if you had the senses to do it. I know I'm not lying, and I know what I am saying is not false. But I could make similar claims about all of you, that you don't know what you are talking about or you are under illusions of your own simply because I have yet to see any physical proof of your knowledge.
Fifth: Just because I claim things that may seem untrue to some or way out there does not mean I am being manipulated by spirits, I'm sick of hearing that. I am not trying to lie or ******** with anyone, and I am not crazy.
With all that being said, take it or leave it, I know what I know, I am what I am. I came here to share knowledge and receive it. To come here to discuss things like these with other people who may have some knowledge on what I am talking about, not to get flamed for things that I know to be true but other people are skeptical on simply because they have either learned different knowledge then me, have learned it in a different way, or lack the experience with such things as I do. I'm not claiming to know everything, because I know that each of you possesses knowledge that I do not, as I probably possess knowledge that you do not have either. But isn't that why we are here? I also am not claiming to be better than anyone else or that by any means I am higher then any of you. So if you feel like I am, I apologize.
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:55 pm
Generally, Zalin, I don't question the veracity of people's claims unless it sounds severely like a wish-fulfillment or escapist fantasy that they're trying to insist is true. If you spend so much time "astral projecting", it sounds more like you're spending a lot of time in your own head. Replace every instance of "astral" with "imaginary" in your diatribe and see how ridiculous it becomes. You spend several hours a day in a realm that only people with better "senses" seem to be able to see, you have blown up a large portion of this strange realm, and summarily resurrected people on it; you have friends who claim to have constructed planets and blown them up, and to top it all off, you have a wife who lives in this other realm. Naturally, you're unable to prove a single thing about it (despite insisting that " astral or not, it actually did happen and it just as real as a planet being created and destroyed on this plane. ") and are well-disposed to being able to write off the fact that other people can't corroborate your story because they're not powerful enough. Zalinzurai But I could make similar claims about all of you, that you don't know what you are talking about or you are under illusions of your own simply because I have yet to see any physical proof of your knowledge. I can't speak for anyone in the guild, but I always make a point of insisting that, for all I know, my experiences are entirely within my own head, any results gathered could be completely coincidental, and anything paranormal I may have considered real might be manifestations of some psychosis. I don't insist any of it is real - which is the difference between you and I. But, since you brought it up -- Zalin, could you give us a display of your immense power? I mean, you've nuked a whole part of "spiritual Egypt" - I live in Scotland, which is four times smaller than Egypt is, so you should be able to make it spiritually explode or whatever. Don't worry - if you're thinking that I might not report it just to spite you, I assure you someone in Scotland will have something to say for it. And hey, if you're feeling generous, do the same for the other folk in the guild, too -- and don't stress about us not being able to sense it. You're in a guild full of practising occultists.
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:28 pm
Well slight correction... its Not in anyway the same as a planet being created or destroyed on this plane. The base structures of the planes are completely Different along with the level of energy needed to create or destroy something
While I know you can create and destroy entire realms quite easily the realms and the base structure of the realms are completely different.
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:30 pm
Mitsh, there was no need to go and do a post background check. It was a petty call as much as flat-out saying he's lying was. That borders flaming, so do tone it down next time. ...If it illicits that kind of reaction or could, anyway.
Nathan, there was no need to be so defensive. A bit yes, but openly stating that you hate coming to places like this is going too far. You joined this place, most likely knowing you'd meet something like this. This is a place of learning AND friendly debate, as far as I'm concerned. You have differing views? Support it. Refuting things in such a was as to degrade others is not a good way to retaliate. And yes, you DID feel like you were degrading people. You don't know about anyone else's senses. You're not them.
And yeah, things calmed down sort of here, but I don't like seeing things like this happen. Keep it a little more low key next time you run into a hitch, please.
And, sort of back on subject... Nathan, if you can even attempt to give proof, what would it hurt? People will either sense it or they won't. I don't think any here would not report just to spite you.
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Tsume Rokaro Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:51 pm
Understood I apologize.
And Mitsh, I know that I am astral projecting and I don't have friends who have claimed to blow up planets, I have seen it. And very well if you truly wish to bring up personal matters such as my wife an, you have gone too far and now I will show you what I can do. That is, if you can even see/sense what's going on. Asrtral projecting one of my energy bodies to your house right now.
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