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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:48 am


This came up recently in the LD, and I thought it'd be something interesting to bring up here as well.

Personally, I've been homeschooled (unschooled, specifically) all of my life, so obviously I'm all for it. However, I don't approve of people who homeschool their children purely for religious reasons and to basically brainwash them. I also don't think all children do well in a homeschooling environment, just like not all do well in a schooling environment.

What are your thoughts on this?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:39 am


I wouldn't homeschool my children. Maybe I'm just biased about it because I went to public school, and so have everyone around me, but I think it might come from trying to overprotect children. However they have to face the world at some point. It's best they learn how to deal with it when they're young.

I think parents need to take the time to talk to their children, to teach them, read to them and explain things to them. Take them to museums, zoos, get them to enjoy reading and learning. School isn't nearly enough. But I still see the public school as a very important experience to go through.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:55 pm


Im A Little Pea
I wouldn't homeschool my children. Maybe I'm just biased about it because I went to public school, and so have everyone around me, but I think it might come from trying to overprotect children. However they have to face the world at some point. It's best they learn how to deal with it when they're young.

I think parents need to take the time to talk to their children, to teach them, read to them and explain things to them. Take them to museums, zoos, get them to enjoy reading and learning. School isn't nearly enough. But I still see the public school as a very important experience to go through.

I wasn't sheltered whatsoever. My parents are extremely liberal people and I probably learned about the world a lot earlier than most kids. They never tried to overprotect me or keep me from doing anything, with other kids or otherwise. They were always very honest with me and never tried to beat around the bush or shelter me when it came to things. I'm sure it is for some parents, but I think for my parents it was more of a "letting me learn things hands on" thing than a "shelter her from the world" thing.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:50 pm


I think public schooling is crucial for a kids socialization, not just making friends but learning how to deal with utter morons and assholes.

My cousin was homeschooled, his mum was very open minded but when he got out in the real world (his first job) he expected everything to be handed to him on a silver tray and he couldnt handle rude people >_<

He feels if he had went to public school, he wouldnt be so..socially awkward in that sense.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:05 pm


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I think public schooling is crucial for a kids socialization, not just making friends but learning how to deal with utter morons and assholes.

My cousin was homeschooled, his mum was very open minded but when he got out in the real world (his first job) he expected everything to be handed to him on a silver tray and he couldnt handle rude people >_<

He feels if he had went to public school, he wouldnt be so..socially awkward in that sense.

I'm homeschooled and I know how to deal with morons and assholes. I've dealt with plenty of stupid people, both IRL and on the internet. One case =/= all cases.
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I think public schooling is crucial for a kids socialization, not just making friends but learning how to deal with utter morons and assholes.

My cousin was homeschooled, his mum was very open minded but when he got out in the real world (his first job) he expected everything to be handed to him on a silver tray and he couldnt handle rude people >_<

He feels if he had went to public school, he wouldnt be so..socially awkward in that sense.

I'm homeschooled and I know how to deal with morons and assholes. I've dealt with plenty of stupid people, both IRL and on the internet. One case =/= all cases.


@ bold: Yes I knew that, I was merely sharing an experience with it. I didnt say that home-schooled kids CANT handle the diversity of people in the real world, I just stated my feelings on public school vs. home school.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:34 am


I've got to say I agree with Im A Little Pea and Call Me Apple. I think it's very important to go to a public school and learn to socialize. I don't really understand where the necessary skills of dealing with people would come otherwise.

But then again, I don't know all that much about homeschooling or the benefits of it as I live in a country where basically no kid is home-schooled. I actually had to Google this and I found out that in Finland there are only around 300 children that are home-schooled and those are mostly because they have special needs. So homeschooling is definitely not something that I'm familiar with.

Before this, I didn't actually even know that there's the possibility of home-schooling your child even if it is just when they have special needs or so. I have read that in some countries like Germany, homeschooling is illegal though. I just read on the news how some family had to move to the US because they wanted to home-school their children.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:59 am


Homeschool in Norway is.. Well, I've NEVER heard of it here, before. The only thing I know the closest you can get to homeschooling here, is that you can study one the internett, BUT, then you'll have to either finished school, be too old to go to a public school, or that you are extremely tired of school and have alot of money. So I can't really say anything about it..

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:00 am


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I've got to say I agree with Im A Little Pea and Call Me Apple. I think it's very important to go to a public school and learn to socialize. I don't really understand where the necessary skills of dealing with people would come otherwise.


It's not like your kid would be in the house all the time. They'd still pursue their interests, enroll in clubs, groups, what-have-you if you do it right. They'd still have to deal with people in general. It's not like they'd be at home all the time, and I think that's the thing people don't seem to really get - most homeschoolers aren't at home all the time.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:34 pm


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I've got to say I agree with Im A Little Pea and Call Me Apple. I think it's very important to go to a public school and learn to socialize. I don't really understand where the necessary skills of dealing with people would come otherwise.


It's not like your kid would be in the house all the time. They'd still pursue their interests, enroll in clubs, groups, what-have-you if you do it right. They'd still have to deal with people in general. It's not like they'd be at home all the time, and I think that's the thing people don't seem to really get - most homeschoolers aren't at home all the time.

It's true that the first impression people get of homeschooled kids is that they're always at home. I admit that I was probably a bit too harsh about that too but I just can't really even imagine the idea of having a child homeschooled as it's definitely not normal where I was raised.

There probably are actual benefits to homeschooling and it's not all bad but if I ever decided to homeschool my child, the lack of social skills would not be the only thing I'd worry about but also if I'm actually able to teach my child everything necessary, haha.
That actually reminded me that are there any rules to homeschooling? Can just anyone homeschool their child over there if they want to?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:20 am


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That actually reminded me that are there any rules to homeschooling? Can just anyone homeschool their child over there if they want to?


Um. Yes and no.

Because the states all have different laws and regulations it varies greatly. In some states homeschoolers are very highly regulated, whereas in others you don't even have to tell the state you have a child (which is ******** up, IMO). In my state personally I have to take a test every couple of years to make sure I'm up to standard, but that's about it.

Basically, it really depends on where in the US you are.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:51 am


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That actually reminded me that are there any rules to homeschooling? Can just anyone homeschool their child over there if they want to?


Um. Yes and no.

Because the states all have different laws and regulations it varies greatly. In some states homeschoolers are very highly regulated, whereas in others you don't even have to tell the state you have a child (which is ******** up, IMO). In my state personally I have to take a test every couple of years to make sure I'm up to standard, but that's about it.

Basically, it really depends on where in the US you are.
How does it work with college / university? I think in the US it's different and they don't need your high school diploma, just your SAT? Can someone who's homeschooled get a high school diploma?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:06 am


Im A Little Pea
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That actually reminded me that are there any rules to homeschooling? Can just anyone homeschool their child over there if they want to?


Um. Yes and no.

Because the states all have different laws and regulations it varies greatly. In some states homeschoolers are very highly regulated, whereas in others you don't even have to tell the state you have a child (which is ******** up, IMO). In my state personally I have to take a test every couple of years to make sure I'm up to standard, but that's about it.

Basically, it really depends on where in the US you are.
How does it work with college / university? I think in the US it's different and they don't need your high school diploma, just your SAT? Can someone who's homeschooled get a high school diploma?

I believe it varies depending on the college, but I think most just need your SAT score, or at least that's my understanding. Someone who's homeschooled can get a high school diploma if they go to high school, obviously, or go to school online. I'm not sure if there's another way, but I don't think a high school diploma really has much pull when it comes to colleges here; more and more are accepting homeschoolers.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 6:05 am


I'm sure there are lots of benefits with homeschooling, although I have to admit to not being familiar with homeschooling at all. I have an online friend who is homeschooling her daughter and that's all my knowledge about the concept.

Anyway, I would have to agree with you that it's not good for all students, and neither is public schools the solution for everyone.

As for homeschooling for religious reasons, what would said reasons be? The only thing I can think of is that the parents want the child to be sheltered from unwanted influences. This I'm against, not only from the individual child's perspective, but from the society as a whole. Acceptance for different cultures can not come unless the members of the society are acquainted with other cultures. Preventing children from meeting others (which is a necessary step if the child is to be sheltered from unwanted ideas) will further cement prejudiced views about "them", and will prevent the child's classmates-to-be from a possibly eye-opening experience.

When I was 7 years old, there was only one non-swedish student (although he was swedish; only adopted). He was of course bullied because he was different. Now today's children where I live are in classes with several people from different cultures. I believe this generation will be less likely to be racist because of their first-hand experience in the early ages.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:25 am


Home schooling when done properly is a wonderful thing. I've never personally been home-schooled, but I have a friend who has and she's fine, quite smart and sociable. I think it depends on the tutor/parent's ability to do it correctly.

So I feel it doesn't matter who's teaching, be it a parent, tutor or classroom teacher. If they suck at teaching, they just suck at it and hopefully someone will notice and step in for the sake of the child(ren).

I think each method of teaching has it's benefits and drawbacks that parents need to keep in mind when deciding.Would I ever home school my kids? Well I wanted kids and liked to teach, it would be an option.
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