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 Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:55 pm
Have you ever thought about what Satan has done? and how, even though you don't realise it, his plans are working more now than ever? Pregnat teenagers, cussing, drugs, violince, porn, everything is so much easier now. Churches are being emptied, because people want to sleep in. God was tooken out of School, soon he will be tookin out of our own homes. Honestly its sad, we let it happen. If people would of stepped up and said, "Christ should stay in school", he would probobally still be. But since most just sat back in their homes thinking, "It could never happen", it happened. We need to be more outgoing. We need to go out and tell everyone we see "God loves you". Have you ever realized that a sinners life seems happier? You know why? The devil makes it seem like that that way you will join them, and leave God. When you are a Christian, the devil attacks you, and makes your life a living hell. We let him, we let satan affect our lifes. What we should do is pray. Ask God to help us, to beat satan at his own game. Pray to be victorious. But, we all know this happens, we don't pray, we just keep letting him effect us. We let him tempt us. We all know we have temptation. We give in to temptation, even though all we have to say is, "I am born with the blood of Jesus! Satan, let me go" and walk away. We don't need the porn, the sex, the vilence, the drugs. All we need is Christ Jesus. So why don't you read the bible before you go to bed? Ask your friends if they know God, Wear that christian t-shirt, Change someone's life. Be that Christian you know you should be. And Follow Jesus Christ, with an outgoing spirit. You can do it. Watch, and pray. He is coming soon. Are you ready?
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:22 pm
I’ll erase this feeling…
I still have a long life don’t I?
kono omoi wo keshiteshimau ni ha
mada jinsei nagai deshou? I have one to thing to say and one thing to say only. Satan is not who you think. No I'm not an agent of a devil or Satan's messenger or whatever. I'm here to observe and teach. Satan is a being that comes from Jewish canon. Jewish canon is the Torah, Tanakh and Talmud. Now Satan is not the evil being we see in popular culture and English versions of the Bible. Satan or in Hebrew as he's called Ha-Satan, is one of God's angels. He isn't top dog, as most people think. The story of Lucifer is Satan comes from a work of fiction. A very popular book called Paradise Lost by John Milton. To scholars, theologians, and even educated Christians alike, Paradise Lost is what we call fanfiction, a fictious story based on a book, movie, video game, anime, manga, etc. It is not truth nor is it actually adapted in the Bible. The true meaning of the right hand man Lucifer is that of a Babylonian King. If you examine the history of Judea (what is now known as modern Israel), you would see that Babylon was one of 7 empires that have tried to conquer Israel in the past. The Bible in fact makes several allusions to Babylon among other empires. What's also interesting is that the word Lucifer means light bearer or bright and morning star. What's even more interesting is that several times in the Bible Jesus is referenced as the bright and shining star. The word Ha-Satan or simply Satan means "Accuser". The name is more of a title given to Samael the Angel of Redepmption by God. Satan's job is to test humanity to see if they are worthy of God's love and to be with him. A perfect source for this would be the Book of Job. As an angel Satan does not have the free will to rebel against God. His primary function is to carry out God's deeds whether he likes it or not. The idea of Satan being cast out from heaven more than likely comes with the authors' of the Bible dissatisfaction with him judging and accusing humans. By putting them literally between a rock and a hard place. They probably figured that by putting Satan in "hell" that he would go away. In other words it would be a kin to simply ignoring him and passing his tests. What's interesting about angels according to Jewish mythos, they're not the little baby boys we see in Western art. They're not as beautiful as we may think. Many of which look deformed. They have thousands of eyes or even flaming tongues. To many they could look like demons but according to the Jewish mythos they are indeed the workers of God. It's good to study Jewish mythos because it predates Christian mythos and many of the elements of Christianity comes from Judaism. Studying Jewish mythos brings a better understanding of what YHVH truly is, his roles, and why Jesus did sacrifice himself. I’m missing the feeling…
so this pain is also welcomed!
natsukashiku naru
konna itami mo kangeijan
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 6:00 pm
xLady Tsukiyox I’ll erase this feeling…
I still have a long life don’t I?
kono omoi wo keshiteshimau ni ha
mada jinsei nagai deshou? I have one to thing to say and one thing to say only. Satan is not who you think. No I'm not an agent of a devil or Satan's messenger or whatever. I'm here to observe and teach. Satan is a being that comes from Jewish canon. Jewish canon is the Torah, Tanakh and Talmud. Now Satan is not the evil being we see in popular culture and English versions of the Bible. Satan or in Hebrew as he's called Ha-Satan, is one of God's angels. He isn't top dog, as most people think. The story of Lucifer is Satan comes from a work of fiction. A very popular book called Paradise Lost by John Milton. To scholars, theologians, and even educated Christians alike, Paradise Lost is what we call fanfiction, a fictious story based on a book, movie, video game, anime, manga, etc. It is not truth nor is it actually adapted in the Bible. The true meaning of the right hand man Lucifer is that of a Babylonian King. If you examine the history of Judea (what is now known as modern Israel), you would see that Babylon was one of 7 empires that have tried to conquer Israel in the past. The Bible in fact makes several allusions to Babylon among other empires. What's also interesting is that the word Lucifer means light bearer or bright and morning star. What's even more interesting is that several times in the Bible Jesus is referenced as the bright and shining star. The word Ha-Satan or simply Satan means "Accuser". The name is more of a title given to Samael the Angel of Redepmption by God. Satan's job is to test humanity to see if they are worthy of God's love and to be with him. A perfect source for this would be the Book of Job. As an angel Satan does not have the free will to rebel against God. His primary function is to carry out God's deeds whether he likes it or not. The idea of Satan being cast out from heaven more than likely comes with the authors' of the Bible dissatisfaction with him judging and accusing humans. By putting them literally between a rock and a hard place. They probably figured that by putting Satan in "hell" that he would go away. In other words it would be a kin to simply ignoring him and passing his tests. What's interesting about angels according to Jewish mythos, they're not the little baby boys we see in Western art. They're not as beautiful as we may think. Many of which look deformed. They have thousands of eyes or even flaming tongues. To many they could look like demons but according to the Jewish mythos they are indeed the workers of God. It's good to study Jewish mythos because it predates Christian mythos and many of the elements of Christianity comes from Judaism. Studying Jewish mythos brings a better understanding of what YHVH truly is, his roles, and why Jesus did sacrifice himself. I’m missing the feeling…
so this pain is also welcomed!
natsukashiku naru
konna itami mo kangeijan Actually, Satan is a "fallen angel" I guess you could say. He was the most Beutiful of angels, and because of his looks, he thought he was better than God, so God sent him to his own world to "rule" which is hell, where he is being condemed. He tryes to get us to follow him instead of God. I believe he made himself a snake, basically possesed a snake, and talked eve into eating the apple. She was his first victom.
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:07 pm
x-Mentally Green-x xLady Tsukiyox I’ll erase this feeling…
I still have a long life don’t I?
kono omoi wo keshiteshimau ni ha
mada jinsei nagai deshou? I have one to thing to say and one thing to say only. Satan is not who you think. No I'm not an agent of a devil or Satan's messenger or whatever. I'm here to observe and teach. Satan is a being that comes from Jewish canon. Jewish canon is the Torah, Tanakh and Talmud. Now Satan is not the evil being we see in popular culture and English versions of the Bible. Satan or in Hebrew as he's called Ha-Satan, is one of God's angels. He isn't top dog, as most people think. The story of Lucifer is Satan comes from a work of fiction. A very popular book called Paradise Lost by John Milton. To scholars, theologians, and even educated Christians alike, Paradise Lost is what we call fanfiction, a fictious story based on a book, movie, video game, anime, manga, etc. It is not truth nor is it actually adapted in the Bible. The true meaning of the right hand man Lucifer is that of a Babylonian King. If you examine the history of Judea (what is now known as modern Israel), you would see that Babylon was one of 7 empires that have tried to conquer Israel in the past. The Bible in fact makes several allusions to Babylon among other empires. What's also interesting is that the word Lucifer means light bearer or bright and morning star. What's even more interesting is that several times in the Bible Jesus is referenced as the bright and shining star. The word Ha-Satan or simply Satan means "Accuser". The name is more of a title given to Samael the Angel of Redepmption by God. Satan's job is to test humanity to see if they are worthy of God's love and to be with him. A perfect source for this would be the Book of Job. As an angel Satan does not have the free will to rebel against God. His primary function is to carry out God's deeds whether he likes it or not. The idea of Satan being cast out from heaven more than likely comes with the authors' of the Bible dissatisfaction with him judging and accusing humans. By putting them literally between a rock and a hard place. They probably figured that by putting Satan in "hell" that he would go away. In other words it would be a kin to simply ignoring him and passing his tests. What's interesting about angels according to Jewish mythos, they're not the little baby boys we see in Western art. They're not as beautiful as we may think. Many of which look deformed. They have thousands of eyes or even flaming tongues. To many they could look like demons but according to the Jewish mythos they are indeed the workers of God. It's good to study Jewish mythos because it predates Christian mythos and many of the elements of Christianity comes from Judaism. Studying Jewish mythos brings a better understanding of what YHVH truly is, his roles, and why Jesus did sacrifice himself. I’m missing the feeling…
so this pain is also welcomed!
natsukashiku naru
konna itami mo kangeijan Actually, Satan is a "fallen angel" I guess you could say. He was the most Beutiful of angels, and because of his looks, he thought he was better than God, so God sent him to his own world to "rule" which is hell, where he is being condemed. He tryes to get us to follow him instead of God. I believe he made himself a snake, basically possesed a snake, and talked eve into eating the apple. She was his first victom. Um no he;s not fallen. He still lives in heaven. That fallen angel bit comes from a fictional book.
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:09 pm
saying he was a "fallen angel" was just an example. He doesn't live in heaven, he was kicked. Those arn't the best words I guess you can say, but I'm not a dictionary.
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:42 pm
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:03 pm
First of all I would like to agree with Lady Tsukiyo, Satan is not what he's been made out to be, and neither are angels. But Satan was cast out of heaven, as you said Lucifer means light bearer, Isaiah 12 How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! 13 You said in your heart, "I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. 14 I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High." 15 But you are brought down to the grave, to the depths of the pit. (NIV) But Lucifer is a nobody, one angel, he isn't the root of all evil in this world. God did not create evil, He created good, He did not create the darkness, He created light, He did not create the cold, He created warmth. As the saying goes, "The shadow proves the sunshine" The phrase "the devil made me do it" is the stupidest excuse ever, and the illusion that one angel is omnipresent is just ridiculous. Bottom line, Satan is not the enemy, it is our own free will that is to blame, but Satan is not the only angel not in heaven, demons do exist, and they can deceive you.
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:38 pm
Lost Journeyer First of all I would like to agree with Lady Tsukiyo, Satan is not what he's been made out to be, and neither are angels. But Satan was cast out of heaven, as you said Lucifer means light bearer, Isaiah 12 How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! 13 You said in your heart, "I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. 14 I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High." 15 But you are brought down to the grave, to the depths of the pit. (NIV) But Lucifer is a nobody, one angel, he isn't the root of all evil in this world. God did not create evil, He created good, He did not create the darkness, He created light, He did not create the cold, He created warmth. As the saying goes, "The shadow proves the sunshine" The phrase "the devil made me do it" is the stupidest excuse ever, and the illusion that one angel is omnipresent is just ridiculous. Bottom line, Satan is not the enemy, it is our own free will that is to blame, but Satan is not the only angel not in heaven, demons do exist, and they can deceive you. I don't believe satan should be referred to as an angel since he isn't in heaven. Yeah, something must of persuaded satan to become evil, and some chices we can't blame satan because we made it and we could of chose not to. But there are times in your life that you didn't make the choice, but it still effects you. Like dieses, they can (sometimes) come out of no where. Now, blaming it on satan, I don't think its right because we can always choose.
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 1:18 am
I have no problem calling him an angel, because that's what he is, if you take a polar bear and take it out of the north pole, its still a polar bear.
Angels and Demons are the same in all respects, its just a matter of who they are loyal to, themselves or God
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:22 am
Lost Journeyer I have no problem calling him an angel, because that's what he is, if you take a polar bear and take it out of the north pole, its still a polar bear. Angels and Demons are the same in all respects, its just a matter of who they are loyal to, themselves or God Hmmm... I guess you have a point. I just think of angels as always being in heaven and following God.
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Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:37 pm
x-Mentally Green-x Lost Journeyer I have no problem calling him an angel, because that's what he is, if you take a polar bear and take it out of the north pole, its still a polar bear. Angels and Demons are the same in all respects, its just a matter of who they are loyal to, themselves or God Hmmm... I guess you have a point. I just think of angels as always being in heaven and following God. I've always made it a point to not fall into predetermined mind sets, truthfully if you saw Lucifer, you would undoubtedly think he was the most beautiful sight in the world, but if you saw an angel with four heads and 3 wings covered in eyes, you would think that it was a horrible demon come to kill you. Looks can be deceiving.
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:52 pm
Lost Journeyer x-Mentally Green-x Lost Journeyer I have no problem calling him an angel, because that's what he is, if you take a polar bear and take it out of the north pole, its still a polar bear. Angels and Demons are the same in all respects, its just a matter of who they are loyal to, themselves or God Hmmm... I guess you have a point. I just think of angels as always being in heaven and following God. I've always made it a point to not fall into predetermined mind sets, truthfully if you saw Lucifer, you would undoubtedly think he was the most beautiful sight in the world, but if you saw an angel with four heads and 3 wings covered in eyes, you would think that it was a horrible demon come to kill you. Looks can be deceiving. I never said they were good looking xD
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Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:26 am
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