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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:11 pm
Religious or magical, please (secular if you want). I was reading the nustercluck on the main page (ask a witch) and I figured that it would be easier to have a page where things can be explained. It helps when arguing with someone to know why someone believes the way they do. As much as I disagree with some guilds on Gaia about some things, I do agree that knowing where the h3ll someone is coming from stops some of the nusterclucking. (Note- I am not a Wiccan of any stripe. More ENP than anything else at the moment, barring some references I'm waiting for.)
My own magical moral code-
-Not too big on the Rede, personally. I used to, its true, but nowadays not so much. By just breathing, we harm ourselves through invisible toxins and microbes. By consuming anything, we must kill it first. Holding myself to that impossible ideal screwed me up so bad I had to rethink it. That's not to say that I fling hexes at everyone I don't like. I find it wastes time and emotion to start that kind of crap. I will defend myself, but most of the time its passive deflection.
-Threefold law. In theory, great. In practice, hard to tell when its actually in effect. I've heard people spout it left and right, then do something extremely sh!tty and say its ok. However, I do believe in a form of karma. By my actions, I influence my surroundings and myself. I attract people that are in tune with those actions. If I am cruel, eventually my own cruel actions will bite me in my booty. Therefore, I try for polite neutrality.(And when polite neutrality fails, I end up doing the stupid. Multiple times.)
So yeah, there's my two bits. Anyone else want to contribute? smile
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:18 pm
This is a good idea, thanks for making this thread. smile
I follow a mix of things. I do follow the Rede, as I feel that it's basically modern Karma. For the record, there is more than one kind of Karma, the Karma that affects our next life and the Karma that affects this life. I don't think I will be punished for what I do in this life, so much that any lessons I did not learn I will repeat until I understand. I don't think deity is typically vengeful, and it seems odd to me to punish someone for not learning. Kind of like smacking a kid for not understanding a math problem the first time. However, our actions do have consequences, and I will be bound by the consequences I have reaped through my action and inaction. Also, the Wiccan Rede, to me at least, is like the Yama in yoga "Ahimsa." Ahimsa in Sanskrit means, "do no harm" which extends to even harmful thoughts. However, it is also an ideal, and an ideal is something to strive for with the understanding that we will never fully achieve it because an ideal cannot exist. It would destroy itself. But to strive for an ideal is to better ourselves,a nd thus learn more from this life. Hopefully that makes sense to everyone else, that's how I view things.
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:27 pm
first, i'm actually really happy that you posted this in the right place. kudos and brownie points!!! mrgreen
1. i believe that everything we say and do, however slight or meaningless, will have an effect on the world around us. i believe that people should think their actions through, and not do whatever they feel like it just because they deem it morally correct.
2. i believe in the wiccan rede. even though i believe in what it says, i wish that people should be kind for the sake of being kind, and not just so they won't get karmic retribution. that goes for doing good things, too- if you're going to do something kind for someone else, it should be because you wanted to do it to make them happy, not for the promise of getting payed back three times over.
3. i believe that, when the soul dies, they go to wherever it is that they believe in. this might seem a bit ridiculous, but belief is a powerful thing. if one person can believe in something, then it must exist.
4. i believe that healing spells can be performed by anyone with the intention of making well the person that they're trying heal. i highly doubt that anyone who truly wants to help someone will harm them by doing a healing ritual. and if the person is supposed to join the lord and lady when they succumb to their sickness, the healing spell will merely make them feel better in their final days.
i'll probably think of more later, but a person's beliefs can be such a broad topic. mrgreen
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:36 pm
My own believes don't stem from any sort of religious beliefs. I've been Aethiest for the most part most of my life. It's only recently, that I have realized. That my beliefs in some areas. Lean more toward Hindiuism than anything else. But, that is only on certain subjects.
I believe that a persons honesty. Is a direct reflection to there alliance to being good or evil. The true tests of our character. Are not the actions which we have been taught are wrong or right. It's the actions that have no major consequences that really test us. Ones inclination to lean toward a negative action or a positive one in these cases.
I've been told that I think in too many absolutes. Because, when it comes to some subjects. I absolutely refuse to budge an inch. I also happen to think intention and result is more important than the action itself. This is not to be confused with the Philosophy of the end justifies the means. If someone really has good intentions but the result is negative. Then, they can not be faulted for what they could not foresee.
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:17 pm
I don't believe in karma of any sort really, I suppose. Though I do believe in reincarnation. I don't believe in good or evil, and I don't believe that just because it's harmful it's a bad thing. So that would rule out any belief in the wiccan rede, I guess. I think the 3-fold law is just plain silly. I think what you send out will come back to you. I don't see it as "karma", more of a paddle ball. It's not like once you hit it, three balls will appear and come back toward the paddle. Why would something just suddenly multiply for no reason? But that's more regarding spells and such. That you'll get what you put into it.
I'm either agnostic or hard-polytheist. Therefore I do not believe in a god and a goddess. I either believe that they may exist, that I'm not still sure about it, or that many exist and are not all just faces of one. But I believe they all come from the same source, much like our souls. But like our souls, just because they come from the same thing, it doesn't mean we're all the same. Just because they come from the same thing, it doesn't mean they're all the same. But I'm not yet sure about whether they exist or not. I've been chatting with a deity that I'm not allowed to say much more than that about (or else I get that really bad feeling like I'm in trouble for no real reason), but I'm not sure if it's real, or all in my head. I'll figure it out sooner or later.
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:14 pm
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