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like the name says. list your favorite 10 punk bands/artists. please make sure they are punk and not some good charrlotte greenday crap.

1. The Dead Milkmen
2. The Briggs
3. Circle Jerks
4. Leftover Crack/ Choking Victim
5. The Bloody Irish Boys
6. Marathon
7. Bad Religion
8. Social Distortion
9. Elvis Hitler
10. Lower Class Brats

1. Rage Against the Machine
2. Green River (dont even try to tell me Grunge isnt punk or I will gut you like a squid)
3. Nirvana
4. Mudhoney
5. Aztlan Underground
6. Dead Kennedys
7. Television
8. the Sex Pistols
9. Velvet Underground (and Nico too I suppose stare )
10. Senser

Well I will concede only the points that Grunge is MUSICALLY different from the three barre chord "Oi Oi Oi, lets Rebel" stereotype of punk, but since Punk was meant to be a revolution, it needed to progress. Punk died because people said "No Punk rock is THIS and THIS alone" and when it was confined to that, it began to stagnate. Grunge and Punk rock are like brothers: both are minimalistic, both are aggressive and express anger and frustration, Grungers were simply punks who were too damned lazy to resort to the whole 'Safety pins, leather jackets and mohawks'. In many ways, grunge was even more subversive than punk because grungers dared to rebel from the punk rock cliche.
Listen to Mudhoney and tell me they arents a punk rock band both musically, aesthetically, and lyrically. Kurt Cobain was a punk rocker of the old school hardcore variety (Black Flag, Dead Kennedys, the Melvins, et al) and said this on punk rock, which I feel defines punk rock definitively "Punk Rock is Freedom." Punk rock is an attitude and a way of life first, and a genre of music second. The punk rock attitude is, as quoted by Joe Strummer "Refusing to accept the future society has planned for you." It doesnt need to be anger or rage, it can be dissention from stagnant values or ideas. Grunge grew tired of punks refusal to progress musically and aesthetically, so they rejected that and substituted their own. Thats punk rock. Not three barre chords, not a sneer, not in the amount of heroin ingested (Given most grungers did heroin but that isnt the point), but in a decision to say "******** you society. I'm doing this my way." and that is what I fight for: Punk, not Punk Rock because ultimately, who wants to confine their life to three barre chords a minute?

Perhaps it differes from area to area, but from what Ive seen (and ive seen quite a bit of the 'punk' scene) most of the kids who would be classified as punks do go for the whole 'Leather Jacket, mohawk, punk band logos and names' image, which makes the paradox 'We are individuals by all dressing and thinking alike'. To be a real Punk, you need to be an individual not a generic stereotype. When something is stereotyped it ceases to be a threat because the progression has ceased and can be predicted and thus manipulated and exploited. When I see punk rock progressing meaningfully and impactfully that I will declare it alive again. The progression for Punk Rock musically was into Grunge.
We need to remember that the roots of true punk rock is experimental: Velevet Underground, MC5, Iggy Pop, and eventually the Ramones, Sex Pistols, Clash, et al, they were all considered heavily experimental at the time, because no one had scene anything so raw and exciting since Rock and Roll first appeared, and what inevitably destroyed Punks image was that people forgot that punk rock was the essence of Rock and Roll, stripped right down to the barest of minimums: this was at a time when Music was very very technical and complex: the music suffered in the 70's because people were more interested in trying to BE Jimi Hendrix or Eric Clapton, rather than develop their own original sound (does anyone think Hendrix would have been as revolutionary as he was if he had just stuck to playing the same old Blues Rhythms over and over again?): rock and roll had stagnated, and Punk revived it when it was very near death. And in the mid 80s, punk ceased to progress and began to stagnate with the same ol' ideas, lyrics, etc. It branched out in the early 80s, but it wasnt called 'Hardcore' or 'Punk' they called it 'Emo' because it was different from what people had heard. In the late 80's it branched out again and they called it 'Grunge' because punk rock, in the elitist mind, is only this and if isn't this, than it isnt punk rock. The only way punk can survive or even be alive, is if you look at Punk Rock and compare it to other genres of music, and broaden the definition of the term 'Punk Rock' from the generic 'Leather Jackets, Mohawks and oi Oi Oi' cliche to involve genres that have obvious influence from punk and are, or in the case of Grunge 'were' progressing'. Think of it as an umbrella. The shaft of the unbrella holding it all up is the basic elements of punk rock which are revolution, dissention, progression. Under the umbrella are all the genres that can be classified with this: Punk Rock, Ska, Reggae, Hip Hop (not Rap), Grunge, Emo (older school and newer school), Hardcore, etc.

I will not put an order to it. I'll just list my top 10 punk that have all equal meaning, memories and sound attached to it.
Lagwagon
NOFX
Anti-Flag
The Sex Pistols (except for Sid Vicious, what a dumbass)
The Ramones
Crass
Death Kennedys
Guttermouth
Total Chaos
Operation Ivy

I could list a couple more but i'll stick to these.And the whole safety pins and leather jacket thing was invented by Times Magazine after an interview with a GREEDY malcom Mclaren that wanted to sell his bondage wear in his sex shop. That guy was an a*****e.

I miss NoFX's old laid back lyrics... they were so much better than this political stuff they are doing. I think they should leave that with the experts... Bad Religion.

These are in NO order what so ever.

1. The God Awfuls
2. Rise Against
3. Against All Authority
4. 88 Fingers Louie
5. Anti-Flag
6. Strikeforce Diablo
7. Bad Religion
8. Donnybrook!
9. Hot Water Music
10. Cataract (More Metal)