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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:17 pm
What do you think? Should homosexuals be allowed to marry? How do you feel about homosexuality in general?
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:05 pm
I hardly see much reasoning behind the ban on it that isn't heavily littered with canonical beliefs. Those that find SSM to be tainting the institution of marriage are the ones who have religious marriages, though the legal issues of marriage are secular, so it should barely come into play. Marriages exist in and out of religions and the values of fidelity and unions do not require a faith. No one is forcing a marriage as a religious sacrament to violate it by marrying a gay, just as no one expects a catholic church to perform gay marriages, their rights are protected though I doubt there isn't one church that could be bought off to perform a ceremony. It is a fundamental human right to marry someone and to deny this is unlawful in a democracy where I exist. Now it is said to have been founded as a christian nation, which I feel is only supported by misc. and out of context quotes from the fathers, where there are often many quotes found that support their atheism and secular concordance, but regardless of it being founded in christianity, in the event it was, it exists today as multicolored and tolerant to all. For these reasons I have to ignore most of the canon law that usurps their right. Homosexuals are given so many other rights as they are human beings by nature and have the same medical and financial needs as any heterosexual. When it turns to ssm the generosity abates. People will have sex with who they want, when they want, and occasionally what they want. Regardless of the sexuality. It's the human mind that makes a person promiscuous and often upon maturation, it tends to develop a need for companionship and commitment fortified in marriage. It's discriminatory to say a homosexual would only form shallow relationships and their marriage wouldn't be valued. The debate runs rampant and every state is divided legislative decisions made. [For more info:] http://www.stateline.org/live/ViewPage.action?siteNodeId=136&languageId=1&contentId=15576California seems well on it's way to being the most powerful advocate for it's acceptance, and you cannot fail to see why. It has a very large population of homosexuality and Proposition-8 was resonated beyond the coastlines. It would even do wonders for the economy, all the money for weddings and hotels, married couples with joint wealth would spend more and even increase the number of those with insurance. [For more Info:]http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gl2dyNWCaYSRjg7HinXC5HBaLdrg
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:00 pm
Yes. Because I don't care if someone is gay.
The government should not care.
No one should care.
But really: if it's that big of a deal they can call it something other than marriage. Don't some European countries require all couples get a 'Civil Union' which entails a marriage license and all that. Then they are free to have whatever religious ceremony they like?
Sounds like a plan.
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:22 am
Ghosty Pie Yes. Because I don't care if someone is gay.
The government should not care.
No one should care.
But really: if it's that big of a deal they can call it something other than marriage. Don't some European countries require all couples get a 'Civil Union' which entails a marriage license and all that. Then they are free to have whatever religious ceremony they like?
Sounds like a plan. Agreed, though in relation to the civil union, I think some people find it offensive simply that the option to call it a marriage is not available. Its considered unequal, so it descends into a civil rights debacle at that point. Each to his own eh?
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Omnipotent Uncertainties Captain
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:49 am
SuchSweetSadism Now it is said to have been founded as a christian nation, which I feel is only supported by misc. and out of context quotes from the fathers, where there are often many quotes found that support their atheism and secular concordance, but regardless of it being founded in christianity, in the event it was, it exists today as multicolored and tolerant to all. That is one of the major problems now. The entire point was that we weren't founded as a christian nation. We were a nation founded by christians in general, true, but one of the major points of the US was seperation of church and state. If only we still payed as much attention to that now... But anyway, I fully support gay marriage. I find it ludicrous that someone can't get married to who they want.
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 2:17 pm
Gnomes-san SuchSweetSadism Now it is said to have been founded as a christian nation, which I feel is only supported by misc. and out of context quotes from the fathers, where there are often many quotes found that support their atheism and secular concordance, but regardless of it being founded in christianity, in the event it was, it exists today as multicolored and tolerant to all. That is one of the major problems now. The entire point was that we weren't founded as a christian nation. We were a nation founded by christians in general, true, but one of the major points of the US was seperation of church and state. If only we still payed as much attention to that now... But anyway, I fully support gay marriage. I find it ludicrous that someone can't get married to who they want. There are a lot of aspects of government the nation seems to no longer honor, I'm a bit upset about gun control but that's another issue. Yes absolutely, it shouldn't even be a debate. It's a human right. It seems to contradict the nation's supposed distaste for forcing a culture upon someone.
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 2:29 pm
Well, I don't really support it...that is just my oppinion. It's not that I hate them. I don't. I have several friends that are gay. All of them are boys...and I have an aunt that is gay...but I still do not support it. But I also think that it is what ever floats their boat. If it makes them happy, that part of their life is their business, not mine.
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 2:59 pm
I approve of gay marriage. A lot of my friends are gay or bisexual, and I think they should be allowed to marry whomsoever they choose. If the United States is truly based on freedom and equal rights, then gays should have those rights as well. It's foolish and unfair to discriminate against a group of people just because they have slightly unusual sexual preferences. As this country is supposed to firmly believe in seperation of church and state, it hardly makes sense for gays to be denied marriage anywhere in the United States. And yet, aside from the marriage issue, hate crimes and the like are commonly carried out against homosexual individuals. In fact, a gay acquaintance of mine was recently hospitalized after being beaten half to death by a large group of anti-gays.
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 3:39 pm
I don't support it because of my religion. So I can't say that I approve. Because then I would be a hypocrite, of what I truly believe/think...
edit: Even though I don't support same sex marriage, I would never beat anyone up for liking someone. like I said, to me it is what ever floats their boat. As long as I don't somehow get involved in their love life. I am fine.
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 3:41 pm
HouseMDFan25 I don't support it because of my religion. So I can't say that I approve. Because then I would be a hypocrite, of what I truly believe/think... I see.
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 3:50 pm
Exarielle BlackLaw HouseMDFan25 I don't support it because of my religion. So I can't say that I approve. Because then I would be a hypocrite, of what I truly believe/think... I see. I edited my post that you quoted... and I am sorry. My bible says it is wrong, and I go by it. It actually says in several places that it is wrong. I know that everyone doesn't believe in the Bible. But I do.
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:45 pm
HouseMDFan25 Exarielle BlackLaw HouseMDFan25 I don't support it because of my religion. So I can't say that I approve. Because then I would be a hypocrite, of what I truly believe/think... I see. I edited my post that you quoted... and I am sorry. My bible says it is wrong, and I go by it. It actually says in several places that it is wrong. I know that everyone doesn't believe in the Bible. But I do. I believe in the Bible as well. But I'm not the type to force my beliefs on other people, and I just want everyone to be happy. But because the Bible clearly states that it's wrong, I remain straight, and nothing but straight.
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:49 pm
Exarielle BlackLaw HouseMDFan25 Exarielle BlackLaw HouseMDFan25 I don't support it because of my religion. So I can't say that I approve. Because then I would be a hypocrite, of what I truly believe/think... I see. I edited my post that you quoted... and I am sorry. My bible says it is wrong, and I go by it. It actually says in several places that it is wrong. I know that everyone doesn't believe in the Bible. But I do. I believe in the Bible as well. But I'm not the type to force my beliefs on other people, and I just want everyone to be happy. But because the Bible clearly states that it's wrong, I remain straight, and nothing but straight. As I said in my edited post...it is whatever floats their boats. I would like for everyone to be happy. But I feel if they let in same sex marriage, the United States will be Soddom and Gommorrah all over again. Which is why that city got burned down in the first place. Because of homosexuality. edit: I am a Conservative Christian. So I like things the way that they are and the way they have been.
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:04 pm
HouseMDFan25 Exarielle BlackLaw HouseMDFan25 Exarielle BlackLaw HouseMDFan25 I don't support it because of my religion. So I can't say that I approve. Because then I would be a hypocrite, of what I truly believe/think... I see. I edited my post that you quoted... and I am sorry. My bible says it is wrong, and I go by it. It actually says in several places that it is wrong. I know that everyone doesn't believe in the Bible. But I do. I believe in the Bible as well. But I'm not the type to force my beliefs on other people, and I just want everyone to be happy. But because the Bible clearly states that it's wrong, I remain straight, and nothing but straight. As I said in my edited post...it is whatever floats their boats. I would like for everyone to be happy. But I feel if they let in same sex marriage, the United States will be Soddom and Gommorrah all over again. Which is why that city got burned down in the first place. Because of homosexuality. edit: I am a Conservative Christian. So I like things the way that they are and the way they have been. Ah, I see.
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Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:07 pm
Why do you keep saying I see? It bothers me when people say that, for some reason...
anyway, I think that we are all entitled to our own beliefs and I don't really want to change mine.
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