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whatagirlwants Vice Captain
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 Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:03 pm
this is the thread to discuss abortion
I have yet to find anything in the bible that definitively speaks for or against abortion. I think the biggest argument is weather or not the fetus is alive.
I personally support abortion in cases of rape and life or death. Since in the latter it was not the choice of the woman to conduct the act she should not be forced to carry the child. Life or death being more obvious in that either way a life is lost. In both cases it should be choice and never forced if a woman wants to risk her life in having her child or a rape victim wants to carry her baby to term she may. I do not think people should be allowed to get abortions as a form of birth control.
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:53 am
I am actually personally against abortion, because it is killing God's treasure. In Psalms, it says "Children are the heritage of the Lord and the fruit of the womb is His reward." God delights in children, this much I know for fact.
Now what if it was from rape? I believe that abortion shouldn't be the answer. But the answer would to seek God for guidance before we do so ourselves. There are better ways to handle it, like adoption and so forth.
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:59 am
Moved to the Discussion/Light Debates
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:54 am
I really don't know how I feel about abortion...I just don't think about it seriously...
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Rigormortis Metamorphosis
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:48 pm
While I may think it's wrong to kill something whether it's viable of life or not, however I think it's wrong to ban abortion when it's already legalized.
Why? Simple, a fetus according to the cycle of fertilization is a small being going from a single cell or zygote to a clump of multiple cells, which is a blastocyst, to a fetus which has more of a human form, adapting into what we see as a babe, and being pushed out of the birth canal.
Even with our technology complications can happen and the women's life will be in danger. If the mother were not to survive the chances of the fetus surviving would be slim, either it is born pre-term or full-term. The fetus needs the mother in order to survive. Also the fetus can have a life threatening malformation that can threaten it's life once born, like having no brain developing in the skull.
Adoption is never a good choice, it's the easy way out and it can also further any complications in pregnancy and can endanger a women who may have a pre-existing heart condition or other pre-existing condition to suffer. Not only that but is putting the child in a horrible environment where it will be physically, emotionally, psychologically, or even mentally abused a good idea? Adoption is a double edged sword.
Also birth control can fail, condoms do break. Women still die in child birth. And fetuses do develop malformations.
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:51 pm
xLady Tsukiyox While I may think it's wrong to kill something whether it's viable of life or not, however I think it's wrong to ban abortion when it's already legalized. Why? Simple, a fetus according to the cycle of fertilization is a small being going from a single cell or zygote to a clump of multiple cells, which is a blastocyst, to a fetus which has more of a human form, adapting into what we see as a babe, and being pushed out of the birth canal. Even with our technology complications can happen and the women's life will be in danger. If the mother were not to survive the chances of the fetus surviving would be slim, either it is born pre-term or full-term. The fetus needs the mother in order to survive. Also the fetus can have a life threatening malformation that can threaten it's life once born, like having no brain developing in the skull. Adoption is never a good choice, it's the easy way out and it can also further any complications in pregnancy and can endanger a women who may have a pre-existing heart condition or other pre-existing condition to suffer. Not only that but is putting the child in a horrible environment where it will be physically, emotionally, psychologically, or even mentally abused a good idea? Adoption is a double edged sword. Also birth control can fail, condoms do break. Women still die in child birth. And fetuses do develop malformations. adoption should never be an option? So I guess all those special needs children 3rd world countries put to sleep because they are "unadoptable" are a wasted effort to save? Believe it or not the majority of babies put up for adoption go into loving homes. Also what if the woman chooses adoption because she knows she would abuse the child (say she is mentally ill or was raped or the father abandoned her) or because she knows she cannot provide for the child. FYI I was going to put my son up for adoption if I was not in a place to care for him by the end of my second trimester and I worked my butt off to able to keep him. Some women can't do it though. They have sex and the birth control fails but they aren't ready, they don't have the money or they are homeless or close to. What you are saying is that her only option is to kill the baby or keep it.
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whatagirlwants Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:09 am
froggymama89 xLady Tsukiyox While I may think it's wrong to kill something whether it's viable of life or not, however I think it's wrong to ban abortion when it's already legalized. Why? Simple, a fetus according to the cycle of fertilization is a small being going from a single cell or zygote to a clump of multiple cells, which is a blastocyst, to a fetus which has more of a human form, adapting into what we see as a babe, and being pushed out of the birth canal. Even with our technology complications can happen and the women's life will be in danger. If the mother were not to survive the chances of the fetus surviving would be slim, either it is born pre-term or full-term. The fetus needs the mother in order to survive. Also the fetus can have a life threatening malformation that can threaten it's life once born, like having no brain developing in the skull. Adoption is never a good choice, it's the easy way out and it can also further any complications in pregnancy and can endanger a women who may have a pre-existing heart condition or other pre-existing condition to suffer. Not only that but is putting the child in a horrible environment where it will be physically, emotionally, psychologically, or even mentally abused a good idea? Adoption is a double edged sword. Also birth control can fail, condoms do break. Women still die in child birth. And fetuses do develop malformations. adoption should never be an option? So I guess all those special needs children 3rd world countries put to sleep because they are "unadoptable" are a wasted effort to save? Believe it or not the majority of babies put up for adoption go into loving homes. Also what if the woman chooses adoption because she knows she would abuse the child (say she is mentally ill or was raped or the father abandoned her) or because she knows she cannot provide for the child. FYI I was going to put my son up for adoption if I was not in a place to care for him by the end of my second trimester and I worked my butt off to able to keep him. Some women can't do it though. They have sex and the birth control fails but they aren't ready, they don't have the money or they are homeless or close to. What you are saying is that her only option is to kill the baby or keep it. What about the thousands of children who are special needs here? Do they not matter? Why not adopt here instead in other countries? That's the thing that pisses me off most. Worry about home first. Then worry about people in other countries last. neutral
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:51 am
I am not really sure how it got from abortion to adoption. But the way that I see it, children are children. Overseas are no different from anywhere else. But I do think it is better to adopt the children from a 3rd world country, because they do not have much food, clothing, ect. While in America, we are drunk, if I can say it, with food and money and so forth.
Also, I do want to point this out here. Around 26,500 children die each day due to poverty.
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:51 pm
Thistle_Whistle I am not really sure how it got from abortion to adoption. But the way that I see it, children are children. Overseas are no different from anywhere else. But I do think it is better to adopt the children from a 3rd world country, because they do not have much food, clothing, ect. While in America, we are drunk, if I can say it, with food and money and so forth. Also, I do want to point this out here. Around 26,500 children die each day due to poverty. I’ll erase this feeling…
I still have a long life don’t I?
kono omoi wo keshiteshimau ni ha
mada jinsei nagai deshou? Actually we don't really have that much food. In fact, our Food Banks have been running out of food as of late. I’m missing the feeling…
so this pain is also welcomed!
natsukashiku naru
konna itami mo kangeijan
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