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 Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:06 pm
This may sound like a rant ... but I am seeing this more and more ... I am a mixed martial artists ... and I am disrespected ... I don't know why ... maybe it is because the early history ... maybe it is a challenge to the traditional martial arts ... or maybe it is the sometimes brutal nature of it ... but I get this a lot ... I got people that I don't even know ... telling me that I'm nothing more than a street fighting brawler that has no technique what so ever ... I'd like to invite those people to say that to my face in a cage or ring ... I am very technical for a guy that basically taught himself how to fight ... I could only imagine if I had any formal training ... but anyway mixed martial arts is bagged on everyday ... I just don't see why ... it is a martial art all in itself ...
What do you guys think ...
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:44 am
I find similar disrespect frequently paid to my own students. The general perception of both mixed martial arts and military format martial arts is that they are amalgamated and mixed with the minimal techniques from varied traditional martial arts. This perception is entirely true.
That said, what people fail to understand in reference to MMA and MFMA is that they are entirely applicable, both to a street fight and a combat situation. In spite of my traditional training in a couple of arts, in a street situation I always fall back on Krav Maga, a well-known hybrid martial art.
I think the key reason that people look down their noses on the MMA phenomenon has to do with the rules presented by the larger organizations that present MMA and MFMA to the masses. In the ring, the safety rules that prevent serious injury to both parties would severely hamper a fighter in a street situation. This does not limit, however, the effectiveness of these fighting styles when trained and applied properly.
In summation, the public opinion (and that of more traditional artists) is shaped by the way MMA and MFMA are presented by those that practice them. Train for the street and you can fight in the street. The rules that people see are there to limit injury, not the art.
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 3:43 am
ryker_fury I find similar disrespect frequently paid to my own students. The general perception of both mixed martial arts and military format martial arts is that they are amalgamated and mixed with the minimal techniques from varied traditional martial arts. This perception is entirely true. That said, what people fail to understand in reference to MMA and MFMA is that they are entirely applicable, both to a street fight and a combat situation. In spite of my traditional training in a couple of arts, in a street situation I always fall back on Krav Maga, a well-known hybrid martial art. I think the key reason that people look down their noses on the MMA phenomenon has to do with the rules presented by the larger organizations that present MMA and MFMA to the masses. In the ring, the safety rules that prevent serious injury to both parties would severely hamper a fighter in a street situation. This does not limit, however, the effectiveness of these fighting styles when trained and applied properly. In summation, the public opinion (and that of more traditional artists) is shaped by the way MMA and MFMA are presented by those that practice them. Train for the street and you can fight in the street. The rules that people see are there to limit injury, not the art. Good points ... anyone else ... come on ... there are a bunch of guild members out threre ... someone has to have an opinion ...
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Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 4:39 am
I don't see why ... withing MMA ... there are many great atheletes/fighters/martial artists ... Shinya Aoki, George St. Pierre, Anderson Silva, Lyoto Machida ... all great martial artists ... all great fighters ... and they are great people ... extremely humble and dedicated to their craft like any other martial artist ... so what's wrong with them ...
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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:01 am
I think a reason MMA is disrespected is the sterotypical inflated ego of the practioners. Some people also think that MMA is somehow infinitely superior to traditional martial arts (I belive both sides have something to learn from one another). I've encountered dozens of people who think that MMA automaticly makes them a fighting god, and had fights with such people (haven't lost yet). I belive it's just that some people ego ruins it for the other more humble groups. I myself am a traditonalist, but I have no objections to cross training. I also feel that some traditionalist look down on MMA because they feel the rules bar many arts from participateing (Though the orginal UFC had no rules, or was that another organizeation?)
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:56 am
Holy rasheed13 I think a reason MMA is disrespected is the sterotypical inflated ego of the practioners. Some people also think that MMA is somehow infinitely superior to traditional martial arts (I belive both sides have something to learn from one another). I've encountered dozens of people who think that MMA automaticly makes them a fighting god, and had fights with such people (haven't lost yet). I belive it's just that some people ego ruins it for the other more humble groups. I myself am a traditonalist, but I have no objections to cross training. I also feel that some traditionalist look down on MMA because they feel the rules bar many arts from participateing (Though the orginal UFC had no rules, or was that another organizeation?) I think your think Pride FC ...
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:51 am
Ah Pride FC ... can't wait till tonight ... the Best of the Pride Fighting Championship ...
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:41 pm
street fighters r different from Martial Art fighters cuz u have more respect in MA but in SA no 1 cares who u r
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:45 pm
bLiNd SkAtEr 243 street fighters r different from Martial Art fighters cuz u have more respect in MA but in SA no 1 cares who u r That may be true ... but we all want respect ... regardless what we say ... we all want it ... it is part of human nature ...
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:10 am
I was always told dont let anyone disrespect you're style, if i were you id turn em into a oragami dragon with youre mixed martial art techniques.
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:12 pm
 The voices in my head say... I actually find it to be the other way around alot. I see Cage Fighters (who train in Kickboxing/Thai and BJJ) give anyone of a Traditional Art s**t all the time. My whole Training Camp always talks s**t about Karate most especially, Karate, Kung Fu, Taekwondo etc. etc. even my coaches! I'm a Cage Fighter too and I train mostly in the modern arts (Kickboxing/Thai and BJJ) but I don't jump on the band wagon like most other MMA faggots and disrespect the other arts. I love those arts as much as any others and I take offense when people do that. Its true most MMA artist are a bunch of nontechnical brawlers who think they're better than everyone else, but That's not true for all. I love applying the traditional arts to my Thai and Jiujitsu.
I kinda see where some of them come from because I've sparred with quite a few 3rd degree black belts in Kung Fu, Karate and Kenpo and in other styles and they're a total joke. but I don't dis the art, I just dis the practitioner. I can't even think of any I know irl that is a Karate fighter or something like that that's even in shape. It burns my a** to see a 80pound 16year old school boy World of Warcraft nerd that's never at a gym and with no skill who is a 2nd degree black belt or a 40year old fat ******** who cant run 50 yards who's a high multi-degree black belt.
They give a black belt to anybody these days and I know that's why alot of MMA Artist don't like them because anyone who truly knows about martial arts knows that a Blue belt in BJJ will pwn just about any other Black Belt in any other art.
I wish all the time that there will be an Art that will arise and make a joke out of BJJ so that MMA Artist who think they're god's gift to Martial Arts will know what it's like to have they're passion be laughed at and considered a joke.
Like I said though, not all MMA Artist are like that but most are. ...and I do kinda agree with them.
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:20 pm
Holy rasheed13 I think a reason MMA is disrespected is the sterotypical inflated ego of the practioners. Some people also think that MMA is somehow infinitely superior to traditional martial arts (I belive both sides have something to learn from one another). I've encountered dozens of people who think that MMA automaticly makes them a fighting god, and had fights with such people (haven't lost yet). I belive it's just that some people ego ruins it for the other more humble groups. I myself am a traditonalist, but I have no objections to cross training. I also feel that some traditionalist look down on MMA because they feel the rules bar many arts from participateing (Though the orginal UFC had no rules, or was that another organizeation?) The voices in my head say... That is true, most MMA artist think they're superior to all in Martial Arts but there's many arts that practice on how to give a devastating shot to the throat. But you can't do that in the cage...I think alot of Traditionalists just laugh quietly laugh to themselves and just let the brawlers ego consume him knowing they can end the street brawlers life easily lol ...and I do kinda agree with them.
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:34 am
baka_boy1221 Holy rasheed13 I think a reason MMA is disrespected is the sterotypical inflated ego of the practioners. Some people also think that MMA is somehow infinitely superior to traditional martial arts (I belive both sides have something to learn from one another). I've encountered dozens of people who think that MMA automaticly makes them a fighting god, and had fights with such people (haven't lost yet). I belive it's just that some people ego ruins it for the other more humble groups. I myself am a traditonalist, but I have no objections to cross training. I also feel that some traditionalist look down on MMA because they feel the rules bar many arts from participateing (Though the orginal UFC had no rules, or was that another organizeation?) I think your think Pride FC ... No, Pride did have rules. A bit weird, but they weren't exactly limited. If you look back to the first UFC events, then you can see that there were only two rules: No biting & no eye gouging. Not sure if it was the first fight, but you could see Royce Gracie using a fighter's hair to gain leverage. Groin shots were allowed, also, if I remember correctly.
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