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Since this issue applies to all who are Force Sensitive, this is an appropriate place for it.

Throughout the galaxy, it is known that other sentients do not trust or understand the Jedi or the Sith. As they feel no connection to the Force, they do not understand the motives of those that do feel this connection to the Force. Furthermore, since most Force Sensitive groups shroud their true intent in secrecy, the masses do not trust their motives. Some fear force sensitives, some despise them. Others are just content to leave alone and be left alone by Force Sensitives.

Overall thoughts on this matter?

Also, is it worth the time and effort to gain the trust of the masses.

I personally find that gaining the trust of the masses is important. While a body can rule through strength alone, it is better for the societal body to trust the ruling party. This will help the ruling party further their agendas, and become more powerful throughout the galaxy. This power and influence can be used and manipulated to great advantage by the right individuals.

A technique frequented by cult leaders, and dictators. A very powerful tool. It sounds very dark in your discription but with the right wording... one could easly change it to match that of the Jedi. Wonderfully written.

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My statement was that Vader as a boy trusted him, for he was a boy and not so perverted by the suspicion of those who were not Force Sensitive. And that if others would have been as open minded perhaps, the Sith as well as the Jedi would discover more of these strong individuals(though i dare say none as great as Vader in his prme), therefore that is not an incorrect statement though i do appriciate your input.

And another thing, i refuse to have words put into my mouth.Power is a consequence ..not a key. I never have said otherwise. Admiration is just as needed as trust though sith can get by without as much as the latter. lets just say we arent as politely thought of by the masses as Jedi...I added so it seems to the latter of my original post because that is what was said or hoped by the council in the beginning an i knew youd go on some little spiel if i had not added it apparently you didnt understand, thus i am aware the prophecy had little to do with Vader though he did play an important role in its ...evolution. You can not end a story without a beginning, and Vader was just that so he is deserving in a "skewed " manner one such as yourself might say. And you seem to too often portay that you can gain power through only pacifist like mannerism which is certainly not so. It is a balance and your thoughts are only favorable toward the one. If you were not so swift to judge you might have taken note that ive said this before, A balance is necessary. And i beg your Pardon BUT my name is DARTH HEATHEN! Thank you very much and GOOD DAY! scream

Excuse me, you sarcastic little child, but beg my pardon is a polite way of saying " How dare you you little gundar or whatever " would be the appropriate fowl Sith language.There is validity to my arguement. You know it. You have blown me off and dissrespected me from day one and i want to know why you cant show the littlest amount of honor for those above you in the Sith chain of command. It is unexcusable though you may have different perspective and you think your so free to express them but when i express mine everytime you reply with some pathetic argument , the only reason half your excuses havent pissed me off as bad as they have now is because theyt werer half decently written and i had respect for that. I know this is Star wars sith academy but it is not a rping forum right now, i can understand your enthusiasm if it were vbut you are being insanely closed minded and unnappriciative. You are not only not courteouys to those on your own side but feel as though ypour supierior to your own leaders. It is extremely un called for. I come on Gaia to enjoy myself and listen to many different views, i was very pleased to find a guild that harbored my real life interests but if the only people who care to respond are useless in over their head snobs like you whats the point. perhaps you should take a freaking chill pill and deal out the respect youve been neglecting everybody!

I believe both of you are correct... but under certain circumstances.

Trust(Sith point of view): A more difficult thing to accomplish but a tool that has the most potent effect when used in a more personal and intimate way, such as pseudo-friendship or a farse-relationship (for gain). Play the courtier.

ie: A French politician named Talleyrand was the personal advisor to Napoleon Bonepart'e and also his good friend whom the Emporer trusted. He often advised Napoleon in many war tactics and even in life... he was also the puppeteir behind the curtain who caused Napoleon's down fall, and Napoleons "extra-banishment". Napoleon never saw it coming, and never found out.

Admiration(Sith point of view): Is best used at a distance. Use cryptic speach and idiosyncratic mannerisms that will spur those around you to look at you in awe and amazement, but do not define yourself too much... or the fascade will die. Always say less than necessary.

ie: In fifth century B.C. Rome, there was a very powerful general named Gnaeus Marcius who was a war hero. Gnaeus was getting older and wished to go into politics and stand in the consul. Now all the people admired him for stories of his great heroic deeds, but they knew nothing of him. When he ran for the consul position he spoke of his deeds and his feats in war and boasted of his greatness. Soon the people became tired of his arrogance and pride so they did not elect him, but his opponent instead. After finding out that he was not elected he went about insulting all the people which ultimately cost him his citizenship in the Roman empire.

So it is all in the way you use these tools... and not the tools themselves.

Timestreamer, i believe that point of view is subjective, because from my perspective, there are many people I admire, but I have no desire, or inclination to emulate them. I admire, those who have been through tramatic experiences and survived, but i do not wish to emulate that experience, to make myself stronger, i have my own experiences to make me stronger. I do, however realize that there is a fine line between admiration and ambition.