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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:26 pm


Basicly just post what 10 moves you consider to her best.

Not in order
d/b+3 Low poke with good dmg only -11
d/f+2 Safe launcher
d+3+4 Low launcher makes opponents want to duck
b+2,4 Easily hit confirmable, good dmg, KND, wallsplat
1,1_4 great punishers
Running 3,4_2 awesome dmg and both wall splat
u/f+4,4 low crush launcher
b+3 why you sidestepping?
d/f+4 her fastest mid poke
u/f+1+2 grabs!
PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:19 am


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I wish i could always hit the DF2's
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:28 pm


I've actually learned alisa just yesterday and she's a bit easy to pick up
but like vampiric said
it's hard to land the DF 2.
because it's so easy to block.
i like to depend on u/f+4,4
and b+3+4, 3+4
even though it's really slow.

and I find the d+3+4 hard to connect after they have fallen D:
PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:56 am


uf+4, 4 is a good move, though it doesn't track and it might be jab punishable (not so sure, don't bet on it).
b+3+4, 3+4 is a very crappy move, hands down.
Good punisher, but other than that it just down right sucks.
It gives neg frames if you only do the first one and if hits on block and you do the 2nd 3+4, the opponent can easily ss and lift punish.
I say stay with db+3.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:09 am


o0-Kota-0o
uf+4, 4 is a good move, though it doesn't track and it might be jab punishable (not so sure, don't bet on it).
b+3+4, 3+4 is a very crappy move, hands down.
Good punisher, but other than that it just down right sucks.
It gives neg frames if you only do the first one and if hits on block and you do the 2nd 3+4, the opponent can easily ss and lift punish.
I say stay with db+3.


this is very not true. it really depends on who you are facing off against. if you know your opponent does a lot of moves that are lows or mids, back both kicks into both kicks is a VERY damaging launcher. if used randomly every now and then, it will catch a lot of the time. sure its easy to punish if sidestepped or whatnot, but i play yoshi and do risky stuff like that ALL THE TIME.

my personal top 10

u/f+4, 4- hands down best move she has
d/b+4- decently quick low with good range. knocks down on hit
1, 1- 10 frame punishing, NC, great damage
d+3, 3- good low pokes. safe i believe if you dont do the last 3
d/f+2- i land d/f's very easily personally and alisa has a decent ranged SAFE launcher
u/f+3, 1+2?- NC, she jumps in air and kicks then comes down with a punch. GREAT damage even if unsafe.
u/f+1+2- good damage grab thats a double break. comical too
d+3+4- decently safe, fast, knockdown low
f+2- good for picking up backrollers
b+3+4, 3+4- yes unsafe, yes avoidable, but used correctly is a great crusher
PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:16 am


I never seen it used efficiently, just as a random "please may I get a launch" attack.
And it being used randomly against me never lands.
But I'll take your word for it since I haven't used her seriously enough to learn her in and out.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:23 am


o0-Kota-0o
I never seen it used efficiently, just as a random "please may I get a launch" attack.
And it being used randomly against me never lands.
But I'll take your word for it since I haven't used her seriously enough to learn her in and out.


well the same way for when i play quincy's feng.
he does a LOT of low and mid poke mixup's to try force you to crouch to get launched. using 3~4 and u/f+3 with yoshi crush lows a LOT. he punishes them every time that he blocks, but the pay off is worth the risk 80% of the time. same would apply to alisa's b+3+4, 3+4.

did i mention that it hits sleepers too biggrin
PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:30 am


"Sleepers"? As in grounded?
And Q is a punish master >.>
But the start up for is just too slow to you when the pressure is on imo, I'm just being skeptical.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:34 am


o0-Kota-0o
"Sleepers"? As in grounded?
And Q is a punish master >.>
But the start up for is just too slow to you when the pressure is on imo, I'm just being skeptical.


actually you would be surprised. the move itself might be slow frame wise (15+ frames) but thats from when you imput the command to when the HIT LANDS. the crushing properties will start within 3-7 frames. plus its pretty much an all crush biggrin
PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:38 am


Are you sure it's an all crush?
I think if you did a ff move, it'll land.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:41 am


o0-Kota-0o
Are you sure it's an all crush?
I think if you did a ff move, it'll land.


well not really an all crush, but it crushes quite a bit.
lars' u/f+4? isnt a all crush either, but behaves like so most of the time. also that move is LAUNCH punishable, but that does not stop it from being a great move
PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:52 am


I saw keep lars out of this. 1 great move doesn't overshine half his movelist being jab punishable.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:15 am


GAIZ, LET'S NOT ARGUE.
jaykay.

I KINDA have to agree with Kota for the fact it's kind of like an "O NO PLZ LAUNCH' for that move. i sure as hell use that move when i'm in trouble and it's quite obvious with what I'm doing. I also use it to close in the distance if they dont side step.
I also like to use her counter hit if both b+3+4 , 3+4 were blocked and you landed right in front of them.
I played with my friend and he always fell for it but it soon became obvious
(after you play the game for more than 50+ battles in one sitting)
but when i play her, i don't really see a lot of poking moves with her.
none fast and efficient except
d+3 , 3
and f, 2
those are the only good pokes IMO.
other than that she's delightful to dress up.

WE HAVE TO BATTLE YOU GAIZ.
i wanan show you my xiaoyu and alisa : )
PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:33 pm


We're not arguing, it's a debate!
Alisa does have really good poking game due to the fact most of her moves are safe as hell.
I wish we got a vid of that alisa player from the tourny, he was one of the better ones on the island.
And you can always battle with me, just pm me when you want to. (not this weekend though, I'm in waipahu)
As for Tenshi and vamp, that'll be though since they lack a ps3.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:58 pm


o0-Kota-0o
I saw keep lars out of this. 1 great move doesn't overshine half his movelist being jab punishable.


actually, its not really half.
he has the most mid safe pokes than any other person from what i know
its when you do his lows and his 3 strings that he becomes unsafe.
any characters 3 string is usually unsafe, only a few characters come to mind that are actually safe
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