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Formerly called the NCS, this is a place for communists and socialists to talk about communism and socialism. 

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Le Pere Duchesne
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:36 am


This is a fun thread where we can post quotes from the classics that have some relevence to the events in the guild in recent times.

Please try to keep them to about one paragraph in length, and limit yourself to a max of three quotes per post. Please do not post twice in a row.

First up, because I thought it was just SO relevant to the arguments in recent times:

What Is To Be Done?
"Dogmatism, doctrinairism", "ossification of the party--the inevitable retribution that follows the violent straightlacing of thought"--these are the enemies against which the knightly champions of "freedom of criticism" in Rabocheye Dyelo rise up in arms. We are very glad that the question has been placed on the order of the day and we would only propose to add to it another:
And who are to be the judges?


Not sure what the 'classics' are? Check the OP of this thread. Those listed under Marx, Engels, and Lenin are classics. There are definitely more, but those are definitely classics, that need no asking about. If you are unsure, keep it to Marx, Engels and Lenin.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:55 am


“Freedom of criticism” is undoubtedly the most fashionable slogan at the present time, and the one most frequently employed in the controversies between socialists and democrats in all countries. At first sight, nothing would appear to be more strange than the solemn appeals to freedom of criticism made by one of the parties to the dispute. Have voices been raised in the advanced parties against the constitutional law of the majority of European countries which guarantees freedom to science and scientific investigation? “Something must be wrong here,” will be the comment of the onlooker who has heard this fashionable slogan repeated at every turn but has not yet penetrated the essence of the disagreement among the disputants; evidently this slogan is one of the conventional phrases which, like nicknames, become legitimised by use, and become almost generic terms.”


-"What is to be done?: Dogmatism and Freedom of Criticism"

Lenin

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:38 am


"Ideology... is indispensable in any society if men are to be formed, transformed and equipped to respond to the demands of their conditions of existence."


-Louis Althusser


oh ill find more wink
PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:25 pm


"Hitherto men have constantly made up for themselves false conceptions about themselves, about what they are and what they ought to be. They have arranged their relationships according to their ideas of God, of normal man, etc. The phantoms of their brains have got out of their hands. They, the creators, have bowed down before their creations. Let us liberate them from the chimeras, the ideas, dogmas, imaginary beings under the yoke of which they are pining away. Let us revolt against the rule of thoughts. Let us teach men, says one, to exchange these imaginations for thoughts which correspond to the essence of man; says the second, to take up a critical attitude to them; says the third, to knock them out of their heads; and -- existing reality will collapse. "


Preface to The German Ideology

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