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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:24 pm
I propose that we make one of them a forum for threads of or relating to communication between the CC and the guild at large.
That means threads like Gracchs's proposed changes to the commissar rules would go there, and discussions from the community towards or regarding the CC would go there.
Ideally, threads with CC votes will be moved there at the conclusion of the vote, and locked. So the public can actually see how their elected officials are voting and justifying their votes (transparency) and the public has a forum in which to directly communicate with the CC. Moving and locking could be a duty of the Commissars to give them a basic function within CC with which people can see their diligence in relation to responsibilities they are given.
NOTE: Possibly, they could also be tasked with maintaining an up to date sticky listing incoming and pending vote threads, but that would be useless if the guild wasn't especially active anyway.
I propose we name the forum 'Committee-Guild Relations' or something to that effect, I was never good with names.
Thoughts?
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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:33 pm
Well I was thinking one of them could be a forum for guild elections. Perhaps we could use one for what you propose with the addition of Bills and such, while the other empty one can be used for future elections.
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:24 pm
I'm cool with it. I'll try out some temporary changes tonight... or something.
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:53 am
Louis-Auguste Robespierre I'm cool with it. I'll try out some temporary changes tonight... or something. Huh? You agreed with me about changes to the guild? What is this... Topsy-turvy day?
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:44 am
The Curse Louis-Auguste Robespierre I'm cool with it. I'll try out some temporary changes tonight... or something. Huh? You agreed with me about changes to the guild? What is this... Topsy-turvy day? I could just delete the forums (my prefered option), but I doubt people would like me squandering guild funds like that.
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:31 am
It's not like we don't have a ridiculous amount of funds... We made of lot of subforums back when things got crazily active, then it rapidly died down to its normal pace, and now we have useless subforums.
Deletion or "ask the CC/Elections" is a good option.
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:50 am
I think best not to tie our hands. As things are, the most active members of the guild and the CC are frequently on skype, so those most interested in the guild can easily prod the CC for anything, and if anyone wants to ask us anything... ask normally?
Having a forum for it later might be useful, but right now... eh. Also, having important stuff in subforums would distract from it, same with having it as a sticky. Yes it would always be there, but for just that reason no one would bother to look in there.
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:54 am
Louis-Auguste Robespierre I think best not to tie our hands. As things are, the most active members of the guild and the CC are frequently on skype, so those most interested in the guild can easily prod the CC for anything, and if anyone wants to ask us anything... ask normally? Having a forum for it later might be useful, but right now... eh. Also, having important stuff in subforums would distract from it, same with having it as a sticky. Yes it would always be there, but for just that reason no one would bother to look in there. Well I mean we can urge members to check the sub-forums. Guild announcements etc. The Ask the CC sounds like a good idea but I think would make a better sticky than anything.
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:17 pm
Comrade Rob Louis-Auguste Robespierre I think best not to tie our hands. As things are, the most active members of the guild and the CC are frequently on skype, so those most interested in the guild can easily prod the CC for anything, and if anyone wants to ask us anything... ask normally? Having a forum for it later might be useful, but right now... eh. Also, having important stuff in subforums would distract from it, same with having it as a sticky. Yes it would always be there, but for just that reason no one would bother to look in there. Well I mean we can urge members to check the sub-forums. Guild announcements etc. The Ask the CC sounds like a good idea but I think would make a better sticky than anything. Yeah, 'Ask the CC' isn't exactly the idea of my proposal. I would like to see it more become something of a 'public' locale for CC things. All votes and their discussions should definitely be public. 'Oh ask us on Skype' isn't good enough. Public records accessible any time by the public is more transparent, and simply hitting the 'move thread' tab couldn't possibly be difficult for the CC or commissars at the conclusion of each vote. Also, threads like this one, proposing changes to the guild, could be kept there and subsequently they stay out of interfering with content-based discussion on the main page for one, and for two members of the CC can go there specifically to discuss public opinion on various issues.
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:17 am
The Curse Comrade Rob Louis-Auguste Robespierre I think best not to tie our hands. As things are, the most active members of the guild and the CC are frequently on skype, so those most interested in the guild can easily prod the CC for anything, and if anyone wants to ask us anything... ask normally? Having a forum for it later might be useful, but right now... eh. Also, having important stuff in subforums would distract from it, same with having it as a sticky. Yes it would always be there, but for just that reason no one would bother to look in there. Well I mean we can urge members to check the sub-forums. Guild announcements etc. The Ask the CC sounds like a good idea but I think would make a better sticky than anything. Yeah, 'Ask the CC' isn't exactly the idea of my proposal. I would like to see it more become something of a 'public' locale for CC things. All votes and their discussions should definitely be public. 'Oh ask us on Skype' isn't good enough. Public records accessible any time by the public is more transparent, and simply hitting the 'move thread' tab couldn't possibly be difficult for the CC or commissars at the conclusion of each vote. Also, threads like this one, proposing changes to the guild, could be kept there and subsequently they stay out of interfering with content-based discussion on the main page for one, and for two members of the CC can go there specifically to discuss public opinion on various issues. Until Gaia learns how to make a 'crew only' option that allows members to see, but not post in subforums, the s**t ain't changing. simple. What you are effectively calling for is the removal of the CC as a separate body ******** off, you aren't going to dictate changes to a commie guild, don't think that my occasional agreement could hint otherwise. As I have said before: you want to know something, PM me and I will provide quotes or something. Really is that simple. If you don't like it, well... This isn't the only leftist hangout you are a member of, so you should go there and try to mould them after your own anti-communist image.
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:50 am
Louis-Auguste Robespierre The Curse Comrade Rob Louis-Auguste Robespierre I think best not to tie our hands. As things are, the most active members of the guild and the CC are frequently on skype, so those most interested in the guild can easily prod the CC for anything, and if anyone wants to ask us anything... ask normally? Having a forum for it later might be useful, but right now... eh. Also, having important stuff in subforums would distract from it, same with having it as a sticky. Yes it would always be there, but for just that reason no one would bother to look in there. Well I mean we can urge members to check the sub-forums. Guild announcements etc. The Ask the CC sounds like a good idea but I think would make a better sticky than anything. Yeah, 'Ask the CC' isn't exactly the idea of my proposal. I would like to see it more become something of a 'public' locale for CC things. All votes and their discussions should definitely be public. 'Oh ask us on Skype' isn't good enough. Public records accessible any time by the public is more transparent, and simply hitting the 'move thread' tab couldn't possibly be difficult for the CC or commissars at the conclusion of each vote. Also, threads like this one, proposing changes to the guild, could be kept there and subsequently they stay out of interfering with content-based discussion on the main page for one, and for two members of the CC can go there specifically to discuss public opinion on various issues. Until Gaia learns how to make a 'crew only' option that allows members to see, but not post in subforums, the s**t ain't changing. simple. What you are effectively calling for is the removal of the CC as a separate body ******** off, you aren't going to dictate changes to a commie guild, don't think that my occasional agreement could hint otherwise. As I have said before: you want to know something, PM me and I will provide quotes or something. Really is that simple. If you don't like it, well... This isn't the only leftist hangout you are a member of, so you should go there and try to mould them after your own anti-communist image. Huh? Finalised votes, that have already happened, with discussions that have already passed, going into a public forum after the vote is over and unelected officials have had no bearing on the subforum and subsequently not interfered at all nor can they, as by the time the thread is moved the results of the vote are in force or about to be...*** is anti-communist? huh? Yes, my ideal is an open forum where only the CC's votes are counted, and yes, I don't understand nor agree with your reasoning for hiding the forum from us. But what I'm asking for is a middle ground, largely in your favour, where we, 'we' being guild members communist and otherwise get to observe -Voting records -Opinions of CC members -Tardiness of CC members (if they voted and how long it took, and if they took part in the discussion and how much). You seem to think that every word out of my mouth has the ultimate goal of destroying this guild or something. It's a throw back to the old 'Hate Gracchvs' thread locked in the subforum. I'm honestly and earnestly putting forward an idea I think is good for the guild as well as give a responsibility to commissars for which you and others have been deliberating the uses of. I get the impression you're being petty with me; why? *** In Australia we have a system much like that, it's called HANSARD. You should check it out sometime.
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