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Asuna6573
Crew

PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:44 pm


I'm on a roll today!
*sighs* Ready?
Quote:
Have you read Bram Stoker's Dracula?
No, but it's on the list. I should've read that one a long time ago, but right now I can't read any vampire novels. I tried, after I wrote Twilight, to read The Historian, because it was the big thing that summer. But I can't read other people's vampires. If it's too close [to my writing], I get upset; if it's too far away, I get upset. It just makes me very neurotic.


She can't read other people's vampires. She never read Dracula. She has never read any vampire novels.

...Does this make any sense AT ALL?! I know she didn't do research, but for the love of Malpercio, at least try and read something! She's upset because no one's vampires are like her's. Of course they aren't, they stay true to mythology! That probably is a completely different section, though, isn't it?

And notice that she was going to read "The Historian" because it was the big thing that summer.
...
Let that sink in. She wasn't going to read it because she thought it would be interesting. Oh no, she wanted to fit in with the cool crowd. That also seems true of some of her fans. (Sane ones, ignore this, please.) Is anyone seeing a parallel between the author and the fans?
Meyer: Listens to music that she thinks is popular
Will read what's popular.
Acts like a child. (look at Midnight Sun reaction, and the Breaking Canon critique.)

Does that sound like quite a few Twitards?( Once more, sane ones, this does NOT apply to you.)
But back to her thoughts on vamp novels. She can't read them too close, or too far. That gets rid of every decent vampire novel that could help her. She also can't read horror novels. I can read horror, and I'm a wuss who can't watch Saw or Final Destination.

Any reactions?
...I think I'm having too much fun picking her apart.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:17 pm


its such bull... and you really are having fun picking her apart, but who doesn't have fun with that?

elffinwitch


Asuna6573
Crew

PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:25 pm


elffinwitch
its such bull... and you really are having fun picking her apart, but who doesn't have fun with that?

I do it with my characters too. They each get a psych analysis. The fact that I can actually do that, and it takes a few pages, is pretty good. I DARE someone to attempt one for Bella that is longer then three pages.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:28 pm


Asuna6573
elffinwitch
its such bull... and you really are having fun picking her apart, but who doesn't have fun with that?

I do it with my characters too. They each get a psych analysis. The fact that I can actually do that, and it takes a few pages, is pretty good. I DARE someone to attempt one for Bella that is longer then three pages.

i don't even think i couold get over two sentences... let alonoe even two pages, that's physically impossible.

elffinwitch


Asuna6573
Crew

PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:33 pm


elffinwitch
Asuna6573
elffinwitch
its such bull... and you really are having fun picking her apart, but who doesn't have fun with that?

I do it with my characters too. They each get a psych analysis. The fact that I can actually do that, and it takes a few pages, is pretty good. I DARE someone to attempt one for Bella that is longer then three pages.

i don't even think i couold get over two sentences... let alonoe even two pages, that's physically impossible.

I can put up an incomplete one for my favorite character from a video game. Fanfic + Canon Character POV= MUST RESEARCH
!I'm still working on it, but I can show you.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:48 pm


Asuna6573
elffinwitch
Asuna6573
elffinwitch
its such bull... and you really are having fun picking her apart, but who doesn't have fun with that?

I do it with my characters too. They each get a psych analysis. The fact that I can actually do that, and it takes a few pages, is pretty good. I DARE someone to attempt one for Bella that is longer then three pages.

i don't even think i couold get over two sentences... let alonoe even two pages, that's physically impossible.

I can put up an incomplete one for my favorite character from a video game. Fanfic + Canon Character POV= MUST RESEARCH
!I'm still working on it, but I can show you.


ooo yeas please~

elffinwitch


Asuna6573
Crew

PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:55 pm


elffinwitch
Asuna6573
elffinwitch
Asuna6573
elffinwitch
its such bull... and you really are having fun picking her apart, but who doesn't have fun with that?

I do it with my characters too. They each get a psych analysis. The fact that I can actually do that, and it takes a few pages, is pretty good. I DARE someone to attempt one for Bella that is longer then three pages.

i don't even think i couold get over two sentences... let alonoe even two pages, that's physically impossible.

I can put up an incomplete one for my favorite character from a video game. Fanfic + Canon Character POV= MUST RESEARCH
!I'm still working on it, but I can show you.


ooo yeas please~

Hee hee. Alright then~!
Quote:
Marno Ar Naren's Psych analysis!

So, this has been bugging my mind since I started trying to break my character down. And who do I decide to do first? Why the lovable Malpercio spirit that needs more fans!

Marno: ...I really want to use magnus on you sometimes.

I know! The feeling's mutual.
So, I decided to break it down into levels. Don't ask why, it's how it arranged itself in my mind.

Level One: The personality he shows. Also known as the surface, you know, what he shows to everyone. Marno is usually carefree, happy, and quick to have a reaction to things. This is how people is with people. This also includes his normal emotions. From getting mad when people mock Sagi, or frustrated when someone is getting on his nerves, to being happy when something good happens, Marno will usually show his emotions at this level. Most of the time, he doesn't have a choice. These are normally what gets sent to Sagi's heart, since they're the basics. It helps with their communication, but can have a downside: If their BOTH mad, it just doubles their rage for each of them. Same for if they're very happy, or sad, or frustrated. If Sagi gets extremely mad, it carries over to Marno. The same thing goes both ways. Put them together and... Remember Greater Mintaka? While this level of emotion would not trigger it, if he gets REALLY ticked, it could trigger the effect. But that kind of anger goes onto the deeper levels. On the heart sharing: He doesn't mind it that much, and will happily show how he is feeling. Or not so happily. Marno can vary in mood on this level, like any normal person. Actually, a bit more, since he is pretty much the essence of someone's heart.

Got that? He seems rather shallow there. Or, at the least, not someone you would expect to be in charge of someone else's fate. Marno, on the surface, seems like a person who switches moods very quickly, can make judgments every now and then, and he will not hesitate to show it. Now, most people would leave it at that for a character. Not me! There will be no Gary-Stu level development for him!

Remember, this is the level that people see. That doesn't mean that's how he is. Remember that for later.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marno: Good. If you made me a Stu, you'd get the Apotheosis used on you. We don't need any Sue or Stu spirit fics.

Oh, so true. Now, let's head deeper, shall we?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marno Ar Naren's Psych Analysis Part Two!

So, we saw how Marno is on the surface. So, if you met him, that's probably how he would act. Isn't that right?

Marno: Yeah... And?

Are you tired? Do we need for Sagi to down coffee to make you not all immature again?

Marno: No, I'm fine. Just annoyed that you're showing everyone how I think. And by the fact that you're getting it right at past two.

It'll be fine! Trust me, you need this. And I can also use this for other things. Like not making you seem like a completely different person each chapter. Anyhoo, let's go to level two now.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Level Two: This is how Marno is below the surface, and is the side of him that most people who even know he exists will not see. He actually is quite calm, and can make rational decisions. This is the part of him that allows him to make good directions during a battle, make a strategy, and to help someone feel better. This is also the analytical part of him. He notices parts of books, behavior, spelling errors, and what people actually mean when trying to hide it. He does, however, still show emotion inside and by himself, which is where this part of him comes out more. While harder to provoke him, if you manage it you might want to either apologize, run, or get ready to spend the rest of your eternity in Malpercio's he**. His emotions are also transferred to Sagi on this level, but it is completely voluntary. That is, if he doesn't want to, he doesn't have to. Sagi can also do this, but it leaves Marno rather annoyed at him. Thus, he doesn't do it that often so he won't be a hypocrite. This is how Marno actually is. Despite the childish exterior he enjoys putting up, he is extremely mature. While most people don't understand why he likes appearing to be a teenager, that is the easiest and most fun thing to behave as. It also seems right to him, as though that's how is supposed to act.

Marno doesn't quite understand some of his reasoning at this level. It seems like there is a large part of him that is dictated by his subconscious. Either that, or there is something that even he doesn't know about himself. This is also where his magnus obsession stems from. Part of his heart seems to want to have a large collection of them. Even though it could be just for fun, there is a reason. He just doesn't know it yet. He also, if still in this part of himself when talking, has a habit of using words that normally don't pop up in a day-to-day vocabulary. In all honesty, it slightly scares him that there could be a lot of stuff that he doesn't know, especially about himself. When on this level of thought, he normally tries to sort through recent events to make sense of all that has happened. Even with his more mature attitude, he still believes that Sagi is hard to keep track of, and requires a bit of work to make sure nothing bad happens. While acting like a teenager a majority of the time, he acts a slight parental figure, due to the fact that he has helped keep him out of trouble for as long as he can remember, quite literally.

Getting him REALLY mad on this level is rather hard. Doing so may trigger a repeat of the Greater Mintaka incident, if he cannot control it.

So, combined with his surface personality, what does this new information tell us? It seems to me that Marno enjoys acting like any other teenager, but thinks more like an adult. His mindset is that he has to take care of Sagi. Whether that is because he is a 'Guardian Spirit' or because he has acted a bit like a parent for his whole life, or even a combination of the two, is hard to decide. Yes, it's my own character, and it's hard to sort him out. He can be rather immature at times and, like Sagi, enjoys sleep. While they take opposite reactions due to lack of it or being interrupted, they still manage to get along. Marno seems to notice small things that most people don't and because of that, will make judgments before he probably should. Considering they are correct about 75% of the time, it would probably be a good thing. Marno seems to like sharing his emotions with Sagi. To him, it helps them get along better, and serves the purpose of making it hard to hide things from each other.

Marno appears to have a good vocabulary, but doesn't show it off too often. It is a small pet peeve of his to find incorrect spelling or grammar, and can analyze a book at the speed that Sagi reads them. Depending on the book, maybe faster. Marno can find weaknesses fairly quickly, and if angry enough, will not hesitate to have Sagi exploit them. Whether or not he listens is another matter. Marno appears to be extremely wary of people and animals, mostly for Sagi's sake. Due to an incident with a caplin and a shawra, Marno felt the need to learn to spot danger from a better distance than 2 meters away.

Marno appears to like having a sense of order. With how he notices tiny errors, to him trying to get everything sorted out in his mind, to how he makes sure Sagi's magnus deck is in the best possible order, he appears to like having everything straightened out. This level of himself also is amazing at thinking of stories. When in a calm mood, or just to cheer Sagi up, if Marno gives it a small bit of thought, he can tell a story for hours, almost always centering on a group of five heroes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I think I might have missed something. I'll probably go back and change it later.

Marno: You're pretty much dissecting my whole being. You know that, right?

Yeah, that's the point. If I can make sure you have a REASON for things, it'll make you easier to right. And I can keep your personality consistent. That'll make you feel better, right?

Marno: What would make me feel better would be you letting me head back to help Sagi out! I got pulled here when we were fighting the Wicked Gawd. *shudders* I wonder if they thought that name would sound cool.

Ouch... But what's up with the spelling? Seriously? And don't worry about Sagi. He'll be fine.
-----
Sagi: *is looking around and dodging hits* Marno? Where are you?! How do I win?
Guillo: It's not the time! Focus, Sagi! *starts using Frigid Queen's Festival*
Milly: *gets magnus hand ready* Come on Sagi! *runs in after wards to use Emperyal Thunder*
-----
Yeah. They can handle it.

Marno: They better. If not, I will hunt you down with a machina arma. Clear?!

...Uh-huh...

Still isn't finished. There's a whole 'nother level to go onto.
How am I doing so far?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:17 pm


Asuna6573
elffinwitch
Asuna6573
elffinwitch
Asuna6573

I do it with my characters too. They each get a psych analysis. The fact that I can actually do that, and it takes a few pages, is pretty good. I DARE someone to attempt one for Bella that is longer then three pages.

i don't even think i couold get over two sentences... let alonoe even two pages, that's physically impossible.

I can put up an incomplete one for my favorite character from a video game. Fanfic + Canon Character POV= MUST RESEARCH
!I'm still working on it, but I can show you.


ooo yeas please~

Hee hee. Alright then~!
Quote:
Marno Ar Naren's Psych analysis!

So, this has been bugging my mind since I started trying to break my character down. And who do I decide to do first? Why the lovable Malpercio spirit that needs more fans!

Marno: ...I really want to use magnus on you sometimes.

I know! The feeling's mutual sometimes.
So, I decided to break it down into levels. Don't ask why, it's how it arranged itself in my mind.

Level One: The personality he shows. Also known as the surface, you know, what he shows to everyone. Marno is usually carefree, happy, and quick to have a reaction to things. This is how people is with people. This also includes his normal emotions. From getting mad when people mock Sagi, or frustrated when someone is getting on his nerves, to being happy when something good happens, Marno will usually show his emotions at this level. Most of the time, he doesn't have a choice. These are normally what gets sent to Sagi's heart, since they're the basics. It helps with their communication, but can have a downside: If their BOTH mad, it just doubles their rage for each of them. Same for if they're very happy, or sad, or frustrated. If Sagi gets extremely mad, it carries over to Marno. The same thing goes both ways. Put them together and... Remember Greater Mintaka? While this level of emotion would not trigger it, if he gets REALLY ticked, it could trigger the effect. But that kind of anger goes onto the deeper levels. On the heart sharing: He doesn't mind it that much, and will happily show how he is feeling. Or not so happily. Marno can vary in mood on this level, like any normal person. Actually, a bit more, since he is pretty much the essence of someone's heart.

Got that? He seems rather shallow there. Or, at the least, not someone you would expect to be in charge of someone else's fate. Marno, on the surface, seems like a person who switches moods very quickly, can make judgments every now and then, and he will not hesitate to show it. Now, most people would leave it at that for a character. Not me! There will be no Gary-Stu level development for him!

Remember, this is the level that people see. That doesn't mean that's how he is. Remember that for later.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marno: Good. If you made me a Stu, you'd get the Apotheosis used on you. We don't need any Sue or Stu spirit fics.

Oh, so true. Now, let's head deeper, shall we?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marno Ar Naren's Psych Analysis Part Two!

So, we saw how Marno is on the surface. So, if you met him, that's probably how he would act. Isn't that right?

Marno: Yeah... And?

Are you tired? Do we need for Sagi to down coffee to make you not all immature again?

Marno: No, I'm fine. Just annoyed that you're showing everyone how I think. And by the fact that you're getting it right at past two.

It'll be fine! Trust me, you need this. And I can also use this for other things. Like not making you seem like a completely different person each chapter. Anyhoo, let's go to level two now.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Level Two: This is how Marno is below the surface, and is the side of him that most people who even know he exists will not see. He actually is quite calm, and can make rational decisions. This is the part of him that allows him to make good directions during a battle, make a strategy, and to help someone feel better. This is also the analytical part of him. He notices parts of books, behavior, spelling errors, and what people actually mean when trying to hide it. He does, however, still show emotion inside and by himself, which is where this part of him comes out more. While harder to provoke him, if you manage it you might want to either apologize, run, or get ready to spend the rest of your eternity in Malpercio's he**. His emotions are also transferred to Sagi on this level, but it is completely voluntary. That is, if he doesn't want to, he doesn't have to. Sagi can also do this, but it leaves Marno rather annoyed at him. Thus, he doesn't do it that often so he won't be a hypocrite. This is how Marno actually is. Despite the childish exterior he enjoys putting up, he is extremely mature. While most people don't understand why he likes appearing to be a teenager, that is the easiest and most fun thing to behave as. It also seems right to him, as though that's how is supposed to act.

Marno doesn't quite understand some of his reasoning at this level. It seems like there is a large part of him that is dictated by his subconscious. Either that, or there is something that even he doesn't know about himself. This is also where his magnus obsession stems from. Part of his heart seems to want to have a large collection of them. Even though it could be just for fun, there is a reason. He just doesn't know it yet. He also, if still in this part of himself when talking, has a habit of using words that normally don't pop up in a day-to-day vocabulary. In all honesty, it slightly scares him that there could be a lot of stuff that he doesn't know, especially about himself. When on this level of thought, he normally tries to sort through recent events to make sense of all that has happened. Even with his more mature attitude, he still believes that Sagi is hard to keep track of, and requires a bit of work to make sure nothing bad happens. While acting like a teenager a majority of the time, he acts a slight parental figure, due to the fact that he has helped keep him out of trouble for as long as he can remember, quite literally.

Getting him REALLY mad on this level is rather hard. Doing so may trigger a repeat of the Greater Mintaka incident, if he cannot control it.

So, combined with his surface personality, what does this new information tell us? It seems to me that Marno enjoys acting like any other teenager, but thinks more like an adult. His mindset is that he has to take care of Sagi. Whether that is because he is a 'Guardian Spirit' or because he has acted a bit like a parent for his whole life, or even a combination of the two, is hard to decide. Yes, it's my own character, and it's hard to sort him out. He can be rather immature at times and, like Sagi, enjoys sleep. While they take opposite reactions due to lack of it or being interrupted, they still manage to get along. Marno seems to notice small things that most people don't and because of that, will make judgments before he probably should. Considering they are correct about 75% of the time, it would probably be a good thing. Marno seems to like sharing his emotions with Sagi. To him, it helps them get along better, and serves the purpose of making it hard to hide things from each other.

Marno appears to have a good vocabulary, but doesn't show it off too often. It is a small pet peeve of his to find incorrect spelling or grammar, and can analyze a book at the speed that Sagi reads them. Depending on the book, maybe faster. Marno can find weaknesses fairly quickly, and if angry enough, will not hesitate to have Sagi exploit them. Whether or not he listens is another matter. Marno appears to be extremely wary of people and animals, mostly for Sagi's sake. Due to an incident with a caplin and a shawra, Marno felt the need to learn to spot danger from a better distance than 2 meters away.

Marno appears to like having a sense of order. With how he notices tiny errors, to him trying to get everything sorted out in his mind, to how he makes sure Sagi's magnus deck is in the best possible order, he appears to like having everything straightened out. This level of himself also is amazing at thinking of stories. When in a calm mood, or just to cheer Sagi up, if Marno gives it a small bit of thought, he can tell a story for hours, almost always centering on a group of five heroes.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I think I might have missed something. I'll probably go back and change it later.

Marno: You're pretty much dissecting my whole being. You know that, right?

Yeah, that's the point. If I can make sure you have a REASON for things, it'll make you easier to right. And I can keep your personality consistent. That'll make you feel better, right?

Marno: What would make me feel better would be you letting me head back to help Sagi out! I got pulled here when we were fighting the Wicked Gawd. *shudders* I wonder if they thought that name would sound cool.

Ouch... But what's up with the spelling? Seriously? And don't worry about Sagi. He'll be fine.
-----
Sagi: *is looking around and dodging hits* Marno? Where are you?! How do I win?
Guillo: It's not the time! Focus, Sagi! *starts using Frigid Queen's Festival*
Milly: *gets magnus hand ready* Come on Sagi! *runs in after wards to use Emperyal Thunder*
-----
Yeah. They can handle it.

Marno: They better. If not, I will hunt you down with a machina arma. Clear?!

...Uh-huh...

Still isn't finished. There's a whole 'nother level to go onto.
How am I doing so far?


goodness, that was a mouthfull!! but very well done.

elffinwitch


Asuna6573
Crew

PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:29 pm


Yeah, it is a bit long...
And with the part of analyzing books... Twilight would be dead. I actually made a little note about how my characters react to the series. The book went up in flames for him. Hee hee~!

I don't know what's worse: The fact that I spent all this time working on this, or the fact that a 14 year old can manage to write a more developed character then Smeyer.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:40 pm


Asuna6573
Yeah, it is a bit long...
And with the part of analyzing books... Twilight would be dead. I actually made a little note about how my characters react to the series. The book went up in flames for him. Hee hee~!

I don't know what's worse: The fact that I spent all this time working on this, or the fact that a 14 year old can manage to write a more developed character then Smeyer.


hehhehe they're both pretty bad. but i think the 14 year old thing is much worse.

elffinwitch



pianos

Vice Captain

Obsessive Cat

PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:20 pm


Quote:
If it's too close [to my writing], I get upset...

How would it be too close? Her writing is nothing like the classics!

This is so stupid. It's like if Pixar did Finding Nemo without even going underwater or to the aquarium to see fish.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:27 pm


Princess Pirateer
Quote:
If it's too close [to my writing], I get upset...

How would it be too close? Her writing is nothing like the classics!

This is so stupid. It's like if Pixar did Finding Nemo without even going underwater or to the aquarium to see fish.

That, my friend, is why she is the Queen of Logic Fails.

Asuna6573
Crew


TheEvilSideSDfL

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:19 pm


Asuna6573
elffinwitch
its such bull... and you really are having fun picking her apart, but who doesn't have fun with that?

I do it with my characters too. They each get a psych analysis. The fact that I can actually do that, and it takes a few pages, is pretty good. I DARE someone to attempt one for Bella that is longer then three pages.


I take you up on this dare. I was only able to get through the first book without barfing (barely) so I don't have the total on her personality, or, to be accurate, lack thereof, but seeing as nothing happened in the first book I will assume, correctly, that nothing happened in the subsequent two novels.

Bella's Psych Analysis.

First thing we learn about Bella: she is from Phoenix, Arizona. Much like Meyer. Next we learn that she thinks she should be tan and play volleyball. Why? Because she lives and Phoenix and that's totally what everyone is/does there!

Again, like the author, she displays the need to fit in while having no talent with which to do so and no meaningful goals in life.

She reaches her new high school. Bella's dad: Hey! Have a truck! Bella: Wow, I really like this truck! I have no life and no personality! Bella gets into class and immediately every boy has a crush on her. Do I detect some narcissism? I believe I do. Everyone is attracted to her...but the boy she sits next to, who, typically, she is attracted to. And guess what the first thought that goes through her mind is? Do I smell bad? I mean, WTF? DO I SMELL BAD? I mean, where is her BRAIN? Oh, right, nonexistent. I forgot.

Anyway, it's the BOY that obviously has problems, not her, but typically she is far too stupid to realize that. Skip to the part where Bella and Eds get together. All she can think about is him. Eds is her life, which either tells us that Meyer is an extremely obsessive person, or she just can't write characters with interesting goals or personalities. Or both. Actually, I'm quite sure it is both. I know this was supposed to be a Bella psych analysis, but I really regard Bella and Smeyer as intertwined, because Meyer is incapable of writing anything that does not reflect her own personality (and sick sexual fantasies) 100%. I find it quite ironic that she considers her writing to be character-driven. I mean, where are the CHARACTERS? You know, with CHARACTER.

The above statement renders this entire effort a waste. Trying to inject Bella, or any of Smeyer's other time-wasters, with any personality or interest at all is like trying to divide by zero. In other words: good luck.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:14 pm


TheEvilSideSDfL
Asuna6573
elffinwitch
its such bull... and you really are having fun picking her apart, but who doesn't have fun with that?

I do it with my characters too. They each get a psych analysis. The fact that I can actually do that, and it takes a few pages, is pretty good. I DARE someone to attempt one for Bella that is longer then three pages.


I take you up on this dare. I was only able to get through the first book without barfing (barely) so I don't have the total on her personality, or, to be accurate, lack thereof, but seeing as nothing happened in the first book I will assume, correctly, that nothing happened in the subsequent two novels.

Bella's Psych Analysis.

First thing we learn about Bella: she is from Phoenix, Arizona. Much like Meyer. Next we learn that she thinks she should be tan and play volleyball. Why? Because she lives and Phoenix and that's totally what everyone is/does there!

Again, like the author, she displays the need to fit in while having no talent with which to do so and no meaningful goals in life.

She reaches her new high school. Bella's dad: Hey! Have a truck! Bella: Wow, I really like this truck! I have no life and no personality! Bella gets into class and immediately every boy has a crush on her. Do I detect some narcissism? I believe I do. Everyone is attracted to her...but the boy she sits next to, who, typically, she is attracted to. And guess what the first thought that goes through her mind is? Do I smell bad? I mean, WTF? DO I SMELL BAD? I mean, where is her BRAIN? Oh, right, nonexistent. I forgot.

Anyway, it's the BOY that obviously has problems, not her, but typically she is far too stupid to realize that. Skip to the part where Bella and Eds get together. All she can think about is him. Eds is her life, which either tells us that Meyer is an extremely obsessive person, or she just can't write characters with interesting goals or personalities. Or both. Actually, I'm quite sure it is both. I know this was supposed to be a Bella psych analysis, but I really regard Bella and Smeyer as intertwined, because Meyer is incapable of writing anything that does not reflect her own personality (and sick sexual fantasies) 100%. I find it quite ironic that she considers her writing to be character-driven. I mean, where are the CHARACTERS? You know, with CHARACTER.

The above statement renders this entire effort a waste. Trying to inject Bella, or any of Smeyer's other time-wasters, with any personality or interest at all is like trying to divide by zero. In other words: good luck.



THAT, was absolutely beautiful. :}

o o l3ubbles o o
Vice Captain


Asuna6573
Crew

PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:09 pm


TheEvilSideSDfL
Asuna6573
elffinwitch
its such bull... and you really are having fun picking her apart, but who doesn't have fun with that?

I do it with my characters too. They each get a psych analysis. The fact that I can actually do that, and it takes a few pages, is pretty good. I DARE someone to attempt one for Bella that is longer then three pages.


I take you up on this dare. I was only able to get through the first book without barfing (barely) so I don't have the total on her personality, or, to be accurate, lack thereof, but seeing as nothing happened in the first book I will assume, correctly, that nothing happened in the subsequent two novels.

Bella's Psych Analysis.

First thing we learn about Bella: she is from Phoenix, Arizona. Much like Meyer. Next we learn that she thinks she should be tan and play volleyball. Why? Because she lives and Phoenix and that's totally what everyone is/does there!

Again, like the author, she displays the need to fit in while having no talent with which to do so and no meaningful goals in life.

She reaches her new high school. Bella's dad: Hey! Have a truck! Bella: Wow, I really like this truck! I have no life and no personality! Bella gets into class and immediately every boy has a crush on her. Do I detect some narcissism? I believe I do. Everyone is attracted to her...but the boy she sits next to, who, typically, she is attracted to. And guess what the first thought that goes through her mind is? Do I smell bad? I mean, WTF? DO I SMELL BAD? I mean, where is her BRAIN? Oh, right, nonexistent. I forgot.

Anyway, it's the BOY that obviously has problems, not her, but typically she is far too stupid to realize that. Skip to the part where Bella and Eds get together. All she can think about is him. Eds is her life, which either tells us that Meyer is an extremely obsessive person, or she just can't write characters with interesting goals or personalities. Or both. Actually, I'm quite sure it is both. I know this was supposed to be a Bella psych analysis, but I really regard Bella and Smeyer as intertwined, because Meyer is incapable of writing anything that does not reflect her own personality (and sick sexual fantasies) 100%. I find it quite ironic that she considers her writing to be character-driven. I mean, where are the CHARACTERS? You know, with CHARACTER.

The above statement renders this entire effort a waste. Trying to inject Bella, or any of Smeyer's other time-wasters, with any personality or interest at all is like trying to divide by zero. In other words: good luck.


*claps* Nice job... I would love to see what you'd do with her suicidal tendencies during New Moon.
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