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Formerly called the NCS, this is a place for communists and socialists to talk about communism and socialism. 

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Intermundia

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:26 pm


So as stated in the thread "Rob Time" I want to throw together a council dedicated to the education and advancement of socialist thought among the newer members. This is to be participatory thing, so anyone who would like to join can join, so long as they are willing to follow through with the selection process of texts and the follow up with discussions. On this council however I would like to see at least Gallenger (when he has the time) and Gracchvs on this council.

Here's how it will function.


Day one of the week we propose a question such as

"What is the Marxist stance on women?"

Then we will give a supplementary text that pertains to the Marxists stance on women. At the end of the week those assigned to the reading will then post their answer to the question and the senior members will then participate in the discussion.

Alternatively the EC can discuss other methods as to how the process should work. But for now thats what I've thrown together.

Now who would like to volunteer for this glorious position!?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:09 pm


I'll volunteer, even though my revolutionary politics will likely get drowned out by the resurgent Kautskyism in the guild.

Le Pere Duchesne
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Dis Domnu

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:50 pm


I need some clarrification. You say "those assigned to the reading", would this be the council, or would the council be assigning readings to other members?

Also, Rob, that's a badass sig image. I want it...
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:59 pm


Dis Domnu
I need some clarrification. You say "those assigned to the reading", would this be the council, or would the council be assigning readings to other members?

Also, Rob, that's a badass sig image. I want it...

I think it means that the EC will read, and they will be bound to post on the reading, and no one else will, though there is an expectation that the 'senior members of the guild' will participate in the discussion.

Le Pere Duchesne
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Dis Domnu

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:00 pm


I'll have to pass, then.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:06 pm


Nah I think perhaps some of the ruling council should step out of the education council Gracchvs, I don't wanna center all influence and power on the same people and create dependence on those people. Though Gallenger may be "Kautskyist" he's probably the best educator here out of all of us. I therefore nominate him to be on it or head said council.

Director Mann


Le Pere Duchesne
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:08 pm


Comrade Mann
Nah I think perhaps some of the ruling council should step out of the education council Gracchvs. Though Gallenger may be "Kautskyist" he's probably the best educator here out of all of us. I therefore nominate him to be on it or head said council.

Doesn't matter how well you can communicate ideas if the ideas are wrong.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:10 pm


Louis-Auguste Robespierre
Comrade Mann
Nah I think perhaps some of the ruling council should step out of the education council Gracchvs. Though Gallenger may be "Kautskyist" he's probably the best educator here out of all of us. I therefore nominate him to be on it or head said council.

Doesn't matter how well you can communicate ideas if the ideas are wrong.


So, what counts as the "right" ideas?

Also, wtf is a Kautskyist?

Dis Domnu


Director Mann

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:20 pm


Louis-Auguste Robespierre
Comrade Mann
Nah I think perhaps some of the ruling council should step out of the education council Gracchvs. Though Gallenger may be "Kautskyist" he's probably the best educator here out of all of us. I therefore nominate him to be on it or head said council.

Doesn't matter how well you can communicate ideas if the ideas are wrong.

I haven't heard that many wrong ideas out of him that pertain to the education he would certainly give.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:23 pm


Dis Domnu
Louis-Auguste Robespierre
Comrade Mann
Nah I think perhaps some of the ruling council should step out of the education council Gracchvs. Though Gallenger may be "Kautskyist" he's probably the best educator here out of all of us. I therefore nominate him to be on it or head said council.

Doesn't matter how well you can communicate ideas if the ideas are wrong.


So, what counts as the "right" ideas?

Also, wtf is a Kautskyist?

The right ideas, in this context is Marxism. Gallenger, despite knowing the language is not a Marxist. I would point out that this is also the case with Comrade Mann here. And before we get into the 'who made you the god of marxism' s**t I will say this: I hold views which are contradictory to theirs. Only one of us can be correct. Of course I consider myself to be most correct.

The correct term is Kautskyian, or if you wish to insult, Kautskyite.
Karl Kautsky was a man who spoke Marxist words but refused all revolutionary practice and actively propagandised against revolution.

Le Pere Duchesne
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Dis Domnu

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:29 pm


The irony amuses me. wink

'Sides, this is still not "The Marxist" guild.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:33 pm


Dis Domnu
The irony amuses me. wink

'Sides, this is still not "The Marxist" guild.

And this matters... how exactly?

Le Pere Duchesne
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Dis Domnu

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:36 pm


Marxism cannot be the only correct information to be conveyed in a non-Marxist (or rather, non-strictly-marxist) Guild. Therefore your complaints about him not being the proper brand of Marxist are rather meaningless.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:39 pm


Dis Domnu
Marxism cannot be the only correct information to be conveyed in a non-Marxist (or rather, non-strictly-marxist) Guild. Therefore your complaints about him not being the proper brand of Marxist are rather meaningless.

I am saying that he cannot teach Marxism because he is not a Marxist. It has nothing to do with where the teaching occurs.

Le Pere Duchesne
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Dis Domnu

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:44 pm


Louis-Auguste Robespierre
Dis Domnu
Marxism cannot be the only correct information to be conveyed in a non-Marxist (or rather, non-strictly-marxist) Guild. Therefore your complaints about him not being the proper brand of Marxist are rather meaningless.

I am saying that he cannot teach Marxism because he is not a Marxist. It has nothing to do with where the teaching occurs.


And I was unaware that Marxism would be the only thing taught here. I was under the impression that non-Marxist communism would be touched upon, and not just in the "oh, these guys exist too, but they're st00pid" way.
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