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Formerly called the NCS, this is a place for communists and socialists to talk about communism and socialism. 

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living in a secret

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:59 pm


If you want to know why I placed that title, it is to get your attention. It is, and I want for you to try your best to change my mind. Why? Because it is helpful for both of us. We'll both be able to strengthen our argument. Or you can pass this up. If so, think about this. Why did you join this guild anyways? If you want a balanced world, how come we're not all moderators yet? How come people are in charge? In a place like this, communism works, but on the large scale, it is all to easy for one bad apple to spoil the barrel.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:03 pm


Thanks.

King To Be Hailed


Herobane

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:07 pm


The way I see it, just like with democracy, it's silly and harmful to use a direct form of the system. You still need people in charge. It's the fundmental rule of command. You need people below to be commanded, and people above to be obeyed.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:07 pm


On the last thing... we just had an election in the guild. It's just easier to deal with than making everyone a moderator. The process is ultimately democratic, even if I think the procedure was unnecessarily restrictive.

Maryhl

Shy Werewolf


Director Mann

PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:44 pm


living in a secret
It is, and I want for you to try your best to change my mind.
K then! If Communism is a joke then where's the punchline?

OH SHI-


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Why? Because it is helpful for both of us.
You already had me hooked, don't overplay your hand.

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Why did you join this guild anyways?
Because I helped make it?

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If you want a balanced world, how come we're not all moderators yet?
Balanced? Who the hell said we want balanced?

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How come people are in charge?
Because Animals in charge would be a Zoocracy and Robots a Robocracy. Silly.


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In a place like this, communism works, but on the large scale, it is all to easy for one bad apple to spoil the barrel.

So some greedy dude down the street will topple a whole society by himself? That's ridiculous and you're ridiculous for saying it.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:52 am


living in a secret
If you want to know why I placed that title, it is to get your attention. It is, and I want for you to try your best to change my mind. Why? Because it is helpful for both of us. We'll both be able to strengthen our argument. Or you can pass this up. If so, think about this. Why did you join this guild anyways? If you want a balanced world, how come we're not all moderators yet? How come people are in charge? In a place like this, communism works, but on the large scale, it is all to easy for one bad apple to spoil the barrel.

See the reason it will work IRL is because we won't have to convince you, we can just kill you and take your s**t.

Le Pere Duchesne
Captain

Beloved Prophet


The Curse

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:08 am


Louis-Auguste Robespierre
living in a secret
If you want to know why I placed that title, it is to get your attention. It is, and I want for you to try your best to change my mind. Why? Because it is helpful for both of us. We'll both be able to strengthen our argument. Or you can pass this up. If so, think about this. Why did you join this guild anyways? If you want a balanced world, how come we're not all moderators yet? How come people are in charge? In a place like this, communism works, but on the large scale, it is all to easy for one bad apple to spoil the barrel.

See the reason it will work IRL is because we won't have to convince you, we can just kill you and take your s**t.


Communism.


srs bsns.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:47 am


The Curse
Louis-Auguste Robespierre
living in a secret
If you want to know why I placed that title, it is to get your attention. It is, and I want for you to try your best to change my mind. Why? Because it is helpful for both of us. We'll both be able to strengthen our argument. Or you can pass this up. If so, think about this. Why did you join this guild anyways? If you want a balanced world, how come we're not all moderators yet? How come people are in charge? In a place like this, communism works, but on the large scale, it is all to easy for one bad apple to spoil the barrel.

See the reason it will work IRL is because we won't have to convince you, we can just kill you and take your s**t.


Communism.


srs bsns.

Fully serious. You know how much hard work goes into designing and making a decent guillotine?

Le Pere Duchesne
Captain

Beloved Prophet


Comrade Kotka

Shirtless Fatcat

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 6:43 am


Hey, I read Animal Farm. Also I like apples.

I'm so tempted to abuse my mod privileges on the OP. >< Perhaps they are correct? Noooooooo
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:13 pm


living in a secret
In a place like this, communism works, but on the large scale, it is all to easy for one bad apple to spoil the barrel.


That's true, large scale communisms don't work, they are too easily corruptible. There really is only one working form of government, that is the republic. The U.S. has survived well as a republic, and will continue to survive as one. I think that the only way to make the republic model work the way we want it to, the people's republic, is to add socialistic idea, thus making is a socialist republic. A place were the people's voices are heard, not the the rich, but the working people, the people who made them rich out of our hard work, not theirs.

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Intermundia

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:47 pm


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living in a secret
In a place like this, communism works, but on the large scale, it is all to easy for one bad apple to spoil the barrel.


That's true, large scale communisms don't work, they are too easily corruptible. There really is only one working form of government, that is the republic. The U.S. has survived well as a republic, and will continue to survive as one. I think that the only way to make the republic model work the way we want it to, the people's republic, is to add socialistic idea, thus making is a socialist republic. A place were the people's voices are heard, not the the rich, but the working people, the people who made them rich out of our hard work, not theirs.



How can you know large scale communism doesn't work if one has never existed?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:48 pm


I would have to say that all of those who say that communism cannot function in large groups are kidding themselves, since, in order for communism to be actually extant, the socialist state will have to wither away, and one of the necessary conditions for such withering is a guarantee against foreign intervention, thus communism on a world scale (or at least in many countries of the world).

I have read animal farm, are you aware that it was written by a socialist? A former communist at that (he changed over to "democratic" socialism, which is more or less communist ideals stripped of their revolutionary character).

I would point out, that on the topic of America, the republic is, and always has been, a complete joke. No workers' agenda (and thus an agenda representing the combined interest of the vast majority) has ever passed unabridged through the congress. They only pass such legislation in order to temporarily relieve social tension, and then undo such legislation whenever possible. Any socialist revolution in America would not only have to take on the task of building socialism, but also of finishing the democratic tasks which lay greatly unfinished since 1776.

Gallenger


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:12 pm


Comrade Rob
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living in a secret
In a place like this, communism works, but on the large scale, it is all to easy for one bad apple to spoil the barrel.


That's true, large scale communisms don't work, they are too easily corruptible. There really is only one working form of government, that is the republic. The U.S. has survived well as a republic, and will continue to survive as one. I think that the only way to make the republic model work the way we want it to, the people's republic, is to add socialistic idea, thus making is a socialist republic. A place were the people's voices are heard, not the the rich, but the working people, the people who made them rich out of our hard work, not theirs.



How can you know large scale communism doesn't work if one has never existed?


Large scale was the U.S.S.R., and if eventually failed. Yes, China is still up and running, however it will only take time before it softens and cracks.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:18 pm


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Comrade Rob
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living in a secret
In a place like this, communism works, but on the large scale, it is all to easy for one bad apple to spoil the barrel.


That's true, large scale communisms don't work, they are too easily corruptible. There really is only one working form of government, that is the republic. The U.S. has survived well as a republic, and will continue to survive as one. I think that the only way to make the republic model work the way we want it to, the people's republic, is to add socialistic idea, thus making is a socialist republic. A place were the people's voices are heard, not the the rich, but the working people, the people who made them rich out of our hard work, not theirs.



How can you know large scale communism doesn't work if one has never existed?


Large scale was the U.S.S.R., and if eventually failed. Yes, China is still up and running, however it will only take time before it softens and cracks.


United Soviet Socialist Republics

The USSR was not communism. It was nowhere near communism. As Gallenger stated, Communism can only exist when there is no state and on a global scale.

China isn't communist either...

Intermundia


Le Pere Duchesne
Captain

Beloved Prophet

PostPosted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:15 pm


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living in a secret
In a place like this, communism works, but on the large scale, it is all to easy for one bad apple to spoil the barrel.


That's true, large scale communisms don't work, they are too easily corruptible. There really is only one working form of government, that is the republic. The U.S. has survived well as a republic, and will continue to survive as one. I think that the only way to make the republic model work the way we want it to, the people's republic, is to add socialistic idea, thus making is a socialist republic. A place were the people's voices are heard, not the the rich, but the working people, the people who made them rich out of our hard work, not theirs.

Do you think that the rich, why you imply dominate the American republic will give up without a fight? Do you think that the 'socialistic ideas' will even be voted on in congress when the rich, who own the media whuge campaigns to prevent anyone who would propose such ideas from being elected?
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