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 Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:22 pm
Sometimes, we have questions about the language, but don't know enough to understand an answer in Japanese. Need a more in-depth explanation to something than a straight translation? Ask away!
This would be a good place for cultural questions, as well.
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:40 pm
sorry im new here but i sont see the japanes characters i only see a bunch of squares and when i tried to istall the thing so i can see it it told me i need the windows cd and i dont know where it is or if i have it.
is there a way i can see it without the cd?or an alternative way???
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:21 pm
vampire gabrile: I dunno what your OS is and what version it is, but perhaps this will help if you're running windows:: here if not, then I have no idea and would suggest hitting the technology assistance forum or google =3 At OP@ I dunno if this is appropriate for here or not... but I'm really confused as to when I would use nana vs shichi, yon vs shi, ku vs kyuu... actually, numbers in general confuse me (other than knowing its a system of 10s ...) but like when to use which version of the numbers, and the counters... they confozzle my poor little brain XD
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:13 am
Haha, when I explain one of the big reasons why Japanese is hard, I bring up counters. You should see the beautiful way in which people's eyes glaze over.
The unfortunate thing is that really, the short answer is to just memorize it.
The long answer is this: to some extent, when to use shichi vs. nana, yon vs. shi etc. has to do with the kanji for those numbers: one is the kun-yomi and the other is the on-yomi. For example, nana and yon are most often used when they are by themselves.
Also, bear in mind that when it comes to things like time or months, they generally don't like long vowels or an n to come before the counter. Instead of yonji for 4 o'clock, it's yoji. Instead of yongatsu for April, it's shigatsu.
Even I still have problems sometimes remembering how to say certain numbers with certain counters.
The good news is that there are relatively few counters that you really honestly need to know.
The ones I would recommend studying and just plain memorizing how they work include: Time, days of the month (esp. the first 10 days), floors of a building, numbers of people, and the general counter (for any time you don't know what counter you should use).
Honestly, it is pretty arbitrary. But I hope some of what I said might be helpful. Let me know if you have more questions. ^_^
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:29 am
@_@
burning_eyes
I suddenly feel small and helpless XD
so, what it boils down to is, the counter I'm using determines which version of the number I'm going to use?
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:37 pm
~Ichigo_Pie~ vampire gabrile: I dunno what your OS is and what version it is, but perhaps this will help if you're running windows:: here if not, then I have no idea and would suggest hitting the technology assistance forum or google =3 oh my god it worked!!! thanks xd now i needto learn how to use it sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:19 pm
vampire_gabrile ~Ichigo_Pie~ vampire gabrile: I dunno what your OS is and what version it is, but perhaps this will help if you're running windows:: here if not, then I have no idea and would suggest hitting the technology assistance forum or google =3 oh my god it worked!!! thanks xd now i needto learn how to use it sweatdrop it took me a little while to learn and it pisses me off because I have it set to default in hiragana and it still starts up in roman entry defaul and it makes me mad cause then I gotta go click a bunch of stuff DX but basically, put in japanese mode, make sure it's in hiragana or katakana entry and type whatever in romanji then hit space to make it kanji (if yours is the same as mine)
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:40 pm
... eek eh do i use the site alteregoivy used in the basic lessons to type it? and it gives me three diffrent japanese it gives me auto-select, Euc,and shift Jis..... im sorry to bother with this noob questions redface
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:54 am
~Ichigo_Pie~ @_@ burning_eyes I suddenly feel small and helpless XD so, what it boils down to is, the counter I'm using determines which version of the number I'm going to use? Sorry about that. Yes, pretty much. I can type up the most common counters for you and the numbers used with them, if you'd like and think that would help.
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:43 am
alteregoivy ~Ichigo_Pie~ @_@ burning_eyes I suddenly feel small and helpless XD so, what it boils down to is, the counter I'm using determines which version of the number I'm going to use? Sorry about that. Yes, pretty much. I can type up the most common counters for you and the numbers used with them, if you'd like and think that would help. ^^ that would be great, if it's not too much trouble. should you post it in the learning resources? or the basic lessons? =3 I'm sure it'd help more than me =3 thank you <33
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:45 am
vampire_gabrile ... eek eh do i use the site alteregoivy used in the basic lessons to type it? and it gives me three diffrent japanese it gives me auto-select, Euc,and shift Jis..... im sorry to bother with this noob questions redface ^^ I think your's is different from mine. Mine was build into my computer and just gives me an IME tool bar and one set of japanese. you're best to hit google, the tech forum, and the thread alteregoivy did.
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:20 pm
eh? i did use the website but when i select the launage to be japanese it goes back to english (stupid computer.hits it with a stick)
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:01 am
Is the cursor actually in something that allows you type text, like a text box or a document? If you don't have a cursor in something that allows you to type text, it will do that.
BTW, I'm trying to type up a counters doc for you guys.... It's sort of become second nature to me, so it's actually kind of hard to sit down and really think about it. sweatdrop
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:59 am
lol I really appreciate it though <333
O.o I didn't think about that! I forgot that it has to be in a text box XD
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:25 pm
Why can Japanese cartoons/ anime show female nudity, and we dare show show even panties in American cartoons? This peeves me more than anything, forgive me if it is misplaced.
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