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Formerly called the NCS, this is a place for communists and socialists to talk about communism and socialism. 

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Le Pere Duchesne
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Beloved Prophet

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:14 am


A Bothan
Tzar Snow Wolf VII
I would have to agree with you, In that regard.

Because of the "War on Terror", Instigated by the Untied States, Muslims and Middle Easterners at large are allowed to say what they will without challenge.
Equality, Truth and History are my guidelines.
Muslims shouldn't be allowed to do whatever the Hell they want simply because they are Muslim. No one should.
The Truth of this should be relayed through the media. Not making certain groups appear to be victims of the "Vast Western Conspiracy against the Developing World".
And, History, Europe is a Historically White continent, Therefore, I opt for Ethnic-Caps (Done by percents) and keeping it that way. Using Mass-Deportations if necessary.

Thoughts?






Tzar Snow Wolf VII
"Love" knows no boundaries. Date and Fornicate with whomever you please.

In addition, I believe the National Socialist party has unjustly raised it's standards.
"Weakness" and "Strength" know no boundaries either.

To create a true society of the "Strong", One must allow said society to cross into all Races, Religions and Lifestyles. All people have something or other to offer.



Miss White Minority
My message was aimed at that person above you, but your opinions were interesting to read, although I don't agree with you.

So, what did you talk with them and what did you find out? With your own words, please.

Anyway, I'll stay loyal to Finland and mother Russia always. I'm pro-white, always have been and always will be. Not because I follow some ideology blindly, but because it's what feels right and it's how I was raised. I also support Russian neo-nazi group's actions, no matter how far they go in violence getting rid off foreigners in their country. They are way more active and organized in Russia than anywhere else. It's also very typical for Europeans and Americans not to understand the Russian nature.


Miss White Minority
Maybe you should actually talk with some before calling them dumb, without blindly judging what you've seen in the media.
That's like I could say the most Americans are dumb. Oh and by the way, I'm half Russian and somewhat neo-nazi.


Louis-Auguste Robespierre
All the pics are clickable. They link to the profile comments page where I found this s**t.

Not all of this is my own work, please thank the NCS Bothan Cadre for the inspiration behind this.

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Evidence of collusion in Snow Wolf's Profile, just as the pic above

Louis-Auguste Robespierre
Comrade Kotka
Dis Domnu
As much as I'd like to turn a blind eye to Hawkings, I can't really pretend he doesn't do some shady things. I don't really think there's a conspiracy. Hawkings and I talk on AIM, a lot. I mentioned needing votes, he mentioned that he knew some people who were registered who could vote for me. Up until last night, I didn't even intend on making a serious go at things. Then I got enough votes to (for a short time) be in the lead for the elections. Now I intend to win. Hawkings and his friends are willing to vote for me.





So after going through all that, and many of you have recieved these hours(some items days ago) prior to this, and know that all this is indeed legitimate as you have had a chance to click the links for yourselves...
Just in case the comments in question were deleted now it is made public.

I propose a few motions:

1: That the fascists ("Tzar Snow Wolf VII" "Miss White Minority" "k31owner" "Nyrk Saron") be banned if they are still members.

2: That Steven Hawkings be deprived of voting privileges and barred from standing in the elections for seeking to bring alien elements into the guild in order to fix an election and have the guild destroyed and/or disbanded.

3: That Dis Domnu be deprived of voting privileges and barred from standing in elections for coluding with Hawkings to win the election and hand him ownership in order that Hawkings do with it as he wished.

4: That Steven Hawkings be banned from the guild for the reasons listed above.

5: That Dis Domnu be banned from the guild for the reasons listed above.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:32 am


Motion 1: In support.

Motion 2: In support

Motion 3: Nay

Motion 4: In Full support

Motion 5: Not in favor. There is lack of evidence of Domnu actually intending to pass power to Hawkings on his part. I pass that he remains in the guild, and that he still be able to run however. Votes from Hawkings and Tsar be deducted.


These actions cannot be tolerated. This is utter corruption, and an attempt at usurpation. I will not tolerate this neither shall any other members of the guild.

Intermundia


Geisterstadt

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:39 am


First off, what Hawkings is doing with the guild is wrong. He isn't some idiot who goes ahead and posts evidence on people's comment box. If he is, well, he does deserve the ban. Saying that, he's either a complete idiot or someone who's playing mind games and you are playing right into his hand.

Second off, Dis is in theory an accomplice. That statement you have is the only proof against him. I don't think that is banworthy.

My suggestion is to get Hawkings out of here. Simply put, he either wanted a guild that has no ideological point and utter chaos or to make this guild some strict Marxist guild that purges people for disagreeing. Both options are wrong and he is working towards the establishment of either. His cronies should be stripped of their voting priveledges. Other than that, I do not see a reason to kick them, unless we start the NCS CorCom.

As to Dis, I do not see any reason to disbarr him from running nor taking away his right to vote. Hawkings cronies were already here and were already (most likely) going to vote for him... it was only a matter of time before they got around to voting.

Those are my thoughts on what to do.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:56 am


Motion 1: Abstain

Motion 2: Abstain

Motion 3: Nay

Motion 4: Abstain

Motion 5: Nay

Geisterstadt


Gallenger

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:58 am


I would say we could leave well enough alone unless the usurpation actually occurs (tank surely wouldn't just hand over the guild!) - waiting for the motions regarding the nature of the NCS/NCS community to come through. I would also remark that most of the folks mentioned (except Dis and Miss white Minority) have already been banned by Gracchvs summarial bannings.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:29 am


Motion 1: Supports

Motion 2: Supports

Motion 3: Supports

Motion 4: Supports

Motion 5: Supports (I see enough evidence in the posts in the OP.)

Miza_Radioaktiv
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Dis Domnu

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:21 pm


Firstly, there's no proof I've done anything except accept votes. Votes that I offered to turn down once proof was shown that foul play/fascism/whatever was involved. I wasn't aware that such a thing was a bannable offense.

Secondly, as I told Kotka (no wonder you didn't show it), as far as I'm aware Hawkings hasn't broken the rules. Members joined. Members registered. No reason to refuse them was offered beyond accusations without proof.

Thirdly, what the hell proof is there that I would bend over for Hawkings? I told him on AIM I needed more votes to win. He said he knew people who might vote for me. I asked if they were registered to vote, he said they had posted. I checked the registration thread, found they had, and saw that they were accused of being fascists, had denied this, and no proof had been brought forward. I gave him the go-ahead to see if he could talk his friends (who were registered) into voting for me.

In an election, it is not illegal for a candidate to speak directly to, or to have someone speak on their behalf, to potential voters. That's kinda what happens in an election.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:32 pm


Gallenger
I would say we could leave well enough alone unless the usurpation actually occurs (tank surely wouldn't just hand over the guild!) - waiting for the motions regarding the nature of the NCS/NCS community to come through. I would also remark that most of the folks mentioned (except Dis and Miss white Minority) have already been banned by Gracchvs summarial bannings.


Thats why I didnt get the drama anyways. If you actually think I was going to hand over ownership to just anyone aka Non communists and or Fascists who vote is complete and utterly absurd.

SoViEtTaNkT34
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Le Pere Duchesne
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Beloved Prophet

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:44 pm


I find it rather interesting how people refuse to vote.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:00 pm


Louis-Auguste Robespierre
I find it rather interesting how people refuse to vote.


I'm confused. Who's refusing to vote? What does this have to do with you wanting to ban me?

Dis Domnu


Le Pere Duchesne
Captain

Beloved Prophet

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:03 pm


Dis Domnu
Louis-Auguste Robespierre
I find it rather interesting how people refuse to vote.


I'm confused. Who's refusing to vote? What does this have to do with you wanting to ban me?

The motions. Vote on them.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:04 pm


Ah, oh yes, and just to further smack down accusations that I'm in on some big conspiracy: the quoted post from me was in reference to Hawkings posting on two profiles saying they should vote for me.

This is the first I've seen of any of the other stuff.

Posting on a profile is not illegal, nor is it indicative of a plot.

Dis Domnu


Maryhl

Shy Werewolf

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:14 pm


Motion 1: Reject
Motion 2: Reject
Motion 3: Reject
Motion 4: Reject
Motion 5: Reject

This witch hunt s**t is really getting annoying. I rather wait until after the elections so it can be properly debated, at least.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:15 pm


Demon Kagerou
Motion 1: Reject
Motion 2: Reject
Motion 3: Reject
Motion 4: Reject
Motion 5: Reject

This witch hunt s**t is really getting annoying.


This.

Dis Domnu

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