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Super Panda454

PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 12:26 pm


Why is it that for people who want cheap sports cars have to generally settle for somthing like a Golf GTi or a vtech Honda Civic Si or other Front wheel drive cars.
When it comes to production and engeneering is building a Front wheel drive car cheaper? Or Is it somthing to do with the quality of parts needed to produce a Rear Wheel drive car?

And are there any cars currently in production that are Rear Wheel drive and have a engine less than 2 leters or 2000cc, I think that the Honda S2000 is like that. Are there others?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 2:49 pm


From a manufacturer's point of view, FF cars are for more econimical to produce because they require less parts, meaning a cheaper price for the consumers down the line. This doesn't mean the parts are of a lower quality, but there's just less of them than in an FR car.

FR cars tend to be higher in price because of the extra parts to put the drivetrain in the rear. The benefits over FF cars are apparant though, because it drastically decreases/eliminates torque steer in the car. It also gives the car a better turning radius and quiets/smoothes the ride since the drivetrain is farther away from the driver.That's why a lot of luxury car companies use FR formats for cars.

As for compact FR cars, S2000 is the only one that comes to my mind as well. There was an issue a year or two back on how to modify the Sti drivetrain into a fully rear wheel drive format, but I'm not too familiar with the how-to's on that.

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Redliner

PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 6:31 pm


my 2.3L mustang is rear wheel drive, i guess that is over 2000cc but its pretty close....definately love it though much more than some of the new hondas and toyotas
PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 8:24 pm


redliner
my 2.3L mustang is rear wheel drive, i guess that is over 2000cc but its pretty close....definately love it though much more than some of the new hondas and toyotas
Wow, I had no idea that 4-banger ponies existed. What model year is that?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 8:58 pm


heh, forget FF AND FR, It should be MR, AWD or RR or Nothin xd
PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:16 am


Tomatoman
heh, forget FF AND FR, It should be MR, AWD or RR or Nothin xd
If only we all had that kinda money sweatdrop

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Super Panda454

PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 6:33 am


old Beetles are RR sweatdrop

Isn't the Mx5 under or around 2000cc?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:04 am


Tomatoman
heh, forget FF AND FR, It should be MR, AWD or RR or Nothin xd

agreed

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:52 pm


Super Panda
old Beetles are RR sweatdrop

Isn't the Mx5 under or around 2000cc?
Yep, but they aren't in production anymore. I forgot that Miatas are still in production though, and they've also released a turbo charged MazdaSpeed edition this year. Has good power/weight ratio and 50:50 weight balancing, so that might be a neat drift car. S16 is supposed to come out in the next year or two, but I dunno if Nissan is putting it on the back burner in favor of the anniversary edition Z and the V35 GT-R.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 10:03 am


Super Panda
old Beetles are RR sweatdrop

Isn't the Mx5 under or around 2000cc?

All old VW's are RR... I got like a hundred at my house... My dunebuggy's RR. RR's are so good for poping wheelies... In my dad's dunebuggy I can get it to pop and ride a wheelie. He weighs to much for him to do a good one.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 2:45 pm


Toker
All old VW's are RR... I got like a hundred at my house... My dunebuggy's RR. RR's are so good for poping wheelies... In my dad's dunebuggy I can get it to pop and ride a wheelie. He weighs to much for him to do a good one.
WOOT xd
PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 8:58 pm


some of the old mustangs had 2.3 turbo motors too. you can make those motors hold 20 psi.

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Super Panda454

PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 2:33 am


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Super Panda
old Beetles are RR sweatdrop

Isn't the Mx5 under or around 2000cc?

All old VW's are RR... I got like a hundred at my house... My dunebuggy's RR. RR's are so good for poping wheelies... In my dad's dunebuggy I can get it to pop and ride a wheelie. He weighs to much for him to do a good one.


How hard is it to construct a dune buggy. And then how would you get it street legal?

*wants to pop wheelies*
PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:08 am


I Like Rear Wheel Drive"Especially for drifting" O.o ^^

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