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This is a guild that is against some of the "unacceptable" changes Gaia makes to it's site that ruins it for users. 

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Geon Of The Flame

PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:46 am


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The MMO project was begun after a virtual world-wide survey of Gaia users 2 years ago about the next feature they wanted in their space. The top choice was an MMOG. The second was pets, which may be coming down the line.

"That’s not a promise," said Sherman, "but that would be the next natural step."Gaiaonlinemmo_guildlogo

Part of the motivation, Sherman guesses, is simply that there's not much out there for teens wanting to play MMOs, in spite of the fact that his users, like most teens and young adults, are gamers. And they're incredibly active, too. Even before the MMO has launched publicly, users are forming guilds and rallying in support of the game. [Both this guild logo (right) and the image above the jump were designed by users/]

"There are very few teen, great, casual, beautiful, non-violent games in the MMO space," he explained. "There’s a hole they saw and wanted filled. I think the people that build the games are, in their hearts, hardcore. They build something that works for them, that’s extremely violent or high fantasy, men-in-tights stuff. Gaia is an alternate reality with a very reverent style and voice. That’s something that I think is more appealing to the younger group."

There are options, like MapleStory, that provide a casual MMO experience directed at youth, but Sherman argues that's one of the only examples out there compared to other fields--and still one that doesn't quite fill the gap Gaia is aiming at.

"If I picked something else and asked, 'Do sports fans have a range of options? Or kids? Or dance fans?' The answer is, 'Of course,'" he explained. "Our game, though, is much more social. MapleStory is a game where they’ve added social tools. We’re a social site that has a game. We think that’s a different direction."

A Hangout Space Instead of a Virtual World

The different direction comes, at least in part, to the perspective Sherman brings to Gaia Online. It's a creature unto itself. No matter what other features the company adds, Gaia is an essentially social experience.

"Gaia is not an MMO," said Sherman. "Gaia is evolving as an active platform for teens. It took us 5 years o build 7 games, and over the next months, we’ll add 30 Flash games. To do that we had the users vote for their favorites [in a competition through partner Mochi Media], and we got 1 million votes [compared to the cited 5 million users]. We’re wrapping our social tools around them. You earn Gaia Gold playing, there’s integrated chat, and you have your avatar as a way to bring your identity in."

That growth is near exponential. Working with third parties, from Mochi to Virtual Greats to Christian Siriano, Sherman hopes to continue to evolve past just the virtual world genre.

"We have huge ambitions," he said. "I think we can become the dominant online hangout for teens. To do that we need the best content available. We’re not a game title. We want to evolve with our users. Our site has actually grown a little older over the last few years. 30% of the users are now over 18 and the site’s, accordingly, grown a little edgier."

To me that sounds like Sherman wants to compete not just with MapleStory, Whirled, Habbo, and the horde of other youth-oriented worlds hitting the market, but even mammoth youth sites like Facebook or Myspace. But rather than compete with them, Sherman wants to cooperate, forming a unifying space for his users regardless of their other content choices.

"That’s why I call it an online hangout, like the mall or downtown," Sherman said. "It becomes your activity hub with like-minded friends. The mall and downtown are richer and more entertaining than a social network and last longer and are more accessible than a traditional game or MMOG. Just like at the real-world mall, kids are texting their friends and calling out. Our users are also on Myspace and Bebo. That’s not an either/or situation. The ‘or’ is TV. I’m convinced of that."

And Gaia is competing with TV--and Web video. Users can embed YouTube videos in the virtual world, make playlists, save them to feeders, and then most them back out to MySpace.

"We’ve transformed an individual experience on YouTube into a social experience, and we’ve transformed MySpace from a flat 2D space into a movie theatre," said Sherman. "It's one of the cool things on the site. I don't know why YouTube hasn't copied it. Maybe it's because you start with an avatar, and it's an embodiment thing that leads you there."

For all the content Sherman wants to add, it makes sense to actually go the Facebook and MySpace route and simply open a Gaia API up to any developer that wants to participate, letting others do the work to populate the site. It may not be soon, but that seems like the social hangout space will be taking a cue from the social networks.

"Yes," said Sherman. "Absolutely. It's in our long-term plan."

taken from http://www.virtualworldsnews.com/2008/06/interview-craig.html

Ok after reading this I have one thing in my mind Marketing. This guy is more focused on attracting younger more gullible kids, and hardly wants' to mention the adults.This guy is more interested in marketing and getting more users then he is of taking care of his current users. After this interview if I was an adult I would be outraged, because he blatantly ignores the many adult users. In one line he mentions over 30% of gaians are adults wait OVER 30% that could be any where from 31%-100%(it isn't but it could be any of those numbers) so why is it he is so focused on teens,kids,etc? Because their money is just as good as an adults the only difference being it is more easy to obtain due to the poor impulse control most kids have, So logically why in hell should this guy care about his adult users or really any of his users as long as he is pulling in enough cash. This is how he is thinking I promise you this dude is a genius in marketing let me show you a little trail of his work.

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Prior to joining Gaia Interactive, the world's largest virtual world for teens as CEO, Craig was an Entrepreneur-in-residence at Benchmark Capital. Prior to Benchmark, Craig was COO of MyFamily.com, where he helped grow the company from $23 Million to $150 Million in sales. Prior to MyFamily.com, Craig was Regional Vice-President of American International Group (AIG), Craig ran AIG's marketing and e-business efforts in Japan and Korea resulting in over six billion dollars in annual revenues. Prior to his work at AIG, Craig was President and CEO of Cendant Japan where he launched the joint venture company, grew it to 500,000 paying customers and achieved operating profits ahead of schedule. Craig held various positions at Cendant including Vice President of Cendant's International Division and General Manager for a number of Cendant's US product lines. Craig graduated magna c** laude from Princeton University.
-taken from http://www.logoworks.com/about-board.html#cs

Ok so he has made many places millions to billions of dollars. So, let me tell you why he was so "cool" in the beginning of gaia, he had to build a fan base. If people came to the site and all it seemed to do was try and get your money it would have never grown. So he played it safe for awhile letting the population grow, and when he decided he had enough power, money, and users he came out with gaia cash as his big Marketing Scheme. So, it is my theory this guy never cared about any of us ever that "cool" gaia that loved you was all a lie until he could throw this on us until he could with stand losses in the gaian population and still make it out richer than he was when he started... Any thoughts?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:07 pm


Guess what. I am questing


sherman, was brought in specifically to bring more users in and make more money.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:12 pm


Guess what. I am questing


I cant seem to find the post which the article is in


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:05 am


I find it even more hilarious what he said about WoW.

Read and lol a bit

Compared to Gaia, WoW is bigger, better, and we get what we pay for: Service and updates.

However... I'm an adult, and thus I didn't feel directly insulted by him, I did feel neglected. We adults have to be somewhat childish to find Gaia amusing, yet we are the ones sitting on the money. We give our kids the money to buy cash, and we even play Gaia with our kids. So I don't really see, why we are not his target. He knows we are here, and knows we are the ones with the money, yet he plays on the teens and kids. That's just sad, no matter how much it's worth for him in dollars and cents...

And Gaia not violent? How come, that BEFORE his time here, guns were not allowed, as wasn't blood and gore? Now look at the items they spit out... Guns in masses, heads exploding, bloody swords, clothes that barely cover anything, 'fan service' characters standing next to your avi... I once saw someone make an avatar on Tektek, where the avatar actually got raped by 2 other characters you can place in your avatar... That was not possible a year ago.

WoW is less violent than Gaia, WoW makes more money than Gaia, WoW has a better community than Gaia... Now how come he is saying, that WoW is not a success? How come he wants to cooperate with other big sites, and pull in sponsors like Skittles (f'ing candy?) and movie deals, but not Blizzard (I guess they would say no thx anyway)? He is gawd damn scared of them... He is scared of the ones bigger than him, thus he tries to make them look smaller by insulting them.

He also says, that WoW is not a success, because they are not attracting enough teenagers. It is not Blizzards goal to attract teenagers at all, just because the game is for 12 years and up, which I think they make quite clear in the game. Actually I think WoW should be from 16 years after the recent expansion *lol*

Anyway... Craig can make money, but he uses children to do his work, which is not ok imho. He should think about who and what he is insulting, before he opens his mouth. If this keeps going on like this, I will let my son play WoW before touching Gaia... Oh wait, he already has a gnome *shrug*


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:36 pm



Craig Sherman will do ANYthing to make money, for himself and for Gaia. That's what he was hired to do.
I'm wondering........ how does Lanzer like all the changes? Why is he allowing this to happen? Has he lost interest in his creation?

confused
PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:44 pm



Here's a good little article......



Gaia Online Cuts 13% Of Staff Despite Claims Of Record Earnings
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by Jason Kincaid on December 15, 2008

Gaia Online, a social network/virtual world hybrid that includes one of the web’s most popular forums, has laid off 36 employees, or around 13% of its staff. Of those laid off, 16 were full time and 20 were contractors. From what we’ve heard the layoffs were unexpected by most affected employees - the site raised $11 million in July, and has been hiring employees as recently as a month ago.
Update: Gaia has written a blog post on the layoffs stating that the headcount represents 13%, not 20%, though this may discount contracted workers.

Even more odd: an article printed today in the San Jose Mercury News quotes Gaia CEO Craig Sherman stating that the company is looking forward to a record month.

“So far, the deepening recession has not slowed sales of virtual goods, which executives attribute to people spending more time at home. Gaia Online, a youth world with 7 million monthly visitors, sells more than $1 million a month of virtual goods and expects a record month in December, said its chief executive, Craig Sherman”

Sherman’s statement seems to be misleading - we’ve heard that revenues last month were lower than expected after a product launch didn’t go as well as hoped, and today’s layoffs seem to contradict the idea that sales of virtual goods have not been affected by the recession.

That said, it is possible that virtual goods sales have held steady as other streams of revenue like advertising have fallen off, or the cuts were made to preempt a forecasted (but as of yet unseen) slowdown. In any case, the article couldn’t have come at a worse time for those laid off.


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Geon Of The Flame

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:11 pm


Well in My humble opinion I believe the Lay offs did a few things. He cleared out a few people who could say anything about the changes, or get in his way, it saved him a lot of money thus putting more in his pocket and in case of a slow down he is already covered. Like I said Craig is an a** hole but a bit of a Genius at making money. However, he acts like a bully making fun of WoW and then using other people to get his name out there or rather Gaia's. Basically he is a Douche bag. As for Lanzer (that is the guy right) I doubt he has much say anymore and if he does he is seeing a lot of money and thus doesn't give half a rats tail. But I wouldn't be surprised if he was no longer with Gaia
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:26 pm


I wish he would just jump ship to the next company already like he always does then hell we might get just a little bit of old Gaia back.......


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:31 am


fatalbeauty
I wish he would just jump ship to the next company already like he always does then hell we might get just a little bit of old Gaia back.......



That would be sweet.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:00 pm


I hate that sob. He makes gaia worse everyday

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:14 am


His whole interview is crammed with "marketspeak": pleasant-sounding (to potential investors) hot air.

I don't play WoW, mainly because of two things:

a. The service for my country's servers stinks.
b. My PC can't handle WoW (yes, it is THAT bad)

(b) is also why I came onto Gaia in the first place. Neat site, casual if slightly buggy games and a nice small gold bonus for nothing. Now, the older games are STILL buggy, and the new one (zOMG) is also buggy AND requires you to have much GC (or TONS of gold) to buy stuff.

I don't use Facebook et. al. because unlike them, Gaia doesn't make you OBLIGATED to network and update and all that. You just...hang around (I mean look, I got ZERO friends after 2 years?!) and I think that's the appeal some of us feel its starting to lose.

Gaia is becoming...*shudder* a pay-to-play Neopets ><
PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:50 am


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Well in My humble opinion I believe the Lay offs did a few things. He cleared out a few people who could say anything about the changes, or get in his way, it saved him a lot of money thus putting more in his pocket and in case of a slow down he is already covered. Like I said Craig is an a** hole but a bit of a Genius at making money. However, he acts like a bully making fun of WoW and then using other people to get his name out there or rather Gaia's. Basically he is a Douche bag. As for Lanzer (that is the guy right) I doubt he has much say anymore and if he does he is seeing a lot of money and thus doesn't give half a rats tail. But I wouldn't be surprised if he was no longer with Gaia


Lanzer is still here, but I agree with you that Craig is the type of money-grubbing yuppie scumbag best described in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy as:
Douglas Adams

A bunch of mindless jerks who'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.


As for Gaia being more successful than WoW, FF11, etc.--where does he get that codswallop? FF11 is marketed to teenagers, and while not as successful as WoW, has at least as many active users as Gaia, if not more so. Sure, Square-Enix isn't as responsive to their customers as they could be, but their primary focus is to put out the best games they can, not to fleece players of every cent they can like this joker is.

As I said before, Gaia is just like Sci-Fi Channel--both started out as "by fans, for fans", got so successful that the 'suits' took over, and got changed into a cash cow to be milked for every cent it's worth until there's nothing left but a lifeless drained husk, and then the suits move on to the next cash cow and leave us fans/players/whatever hanging.

Am I the only one who wants to puke and/or have a screaming fit about this sort of thing?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:14 am


Kitirena

Am I the only one who wants to puke and/or have a screaming fit about this sort of thing?


No....that's why we are all here, I believe. =D

And, I have plenty of puke buckets in the supply room!
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:27 am


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And, I have plenty of puke buckets in the supply room!


And next thing you know, puke buckets become an EI/CS item. wahmbulance

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