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Xyo996

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 4:47 pm


I'm 14 and looking for a good Self Defense and all Around good fighting type of martial arts, all of the listed are offered near me. any recommendations and why.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 5:04 pm


As a Kenpoist...I reccoment American Kenpo because it incorporates all of the other styles...Judo, Jujutsu, kung fu...etc...one thing that I wish it put more emphasis on is teaching ground fighting...granted any of the kenpo techniques can be applied to a grappling situation, there isn't much ground work taught in the cirriculum. Considering 90% of street fights go to the ground it's good to have a good understanding when it comes to ground fighting. If you go with kenpo make sure your sensei incorporates lots of grappling into the practice; it's really important.

But, biases aside...do what seems right to you. Check to see if any of the schools offer trial lessons so you can get a feel for the style...maybe one will stand out against the others!

DesiBuu
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Xyo996

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:14 am


Will do and thanks
PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:46 pm


Not a problem! Good Luck!

DesiBuu
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Bokuden
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:40 pm


I agree with DesiBuu.... if what you want is self defense, Kenpo would be the best option in my opinion... that is, because Muay Thai and Tae Kwon Do, although strong styles, they are mostly used for sport and for that reason, they mostly teach to fight in a ring, tournament, etc etc..... American Kenpo incorporates a lot of different things. Yes, they do teach how to compete, too, but they also have a big arsenal of self defense techniques for real life situations... if you don't want to compete and want to concentrate on self defense, you can always tell the teacher exactly what you're looking for. =)

And yes... check all three and get a feel of each one... just because we prefer and recommend Kenpo/Kempo, doesn't mean you'll prefer it, too. =)
PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:52 pm


Something I have noticed in my area is that some of the schools are so focused on MMA and UFC that the technique and defense aspect gets thrown by the way side. Be investigative when looking into a school, check websites, go sit in on classes and watch how the instructors interact with students...see what the ciriculum consists of, do they spend equal time training for the ring as they do the techniques and forms. I've noticed some of the schools around here are heavily involved in mma, which is great...if that's what you want.

DesiBuu
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Sil3nt Pr0digy

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:19 pm


I would suggest Ju Jutsu And Ninjitsu. Ninjitsu is useful for if you get in a fight, you would be able to disable your opponents limbs. It is similar to acupressure to specific points on the body, but I would only suggest these martial arts if you are superbly fast. If you are slower than most then Ju Jutsu would be a better choice, but those who have a predisposition to wrestling i would suggest Judo, all 3 of these techniques are useful for throwing your opponent to the ground, and disabling them, so you can get away safely.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:38 am


Sil3nt Pr0digy
I would suggest Ju Jutsu And Ninjitsu. Ninjitsu is useful for if you get in a fight, you would be able to disable your opponents limbs. It is similar to acupressure to specific points on the body, but I would only suggest these martial arts if you are superbly fast. If you are slower than most then Ju Jutsu would be a better choice, but those who have a predisposition to wrestling i would suggest Judo, all 3 of these techniques are useful for throwing your opponent to the ground, and disabling them, so you can get away safely.


But he doesn't have those kinds of schools close to him and besides, Ninjutsu isn't the only art that applies pressure points and it's not really that easy to find a ninjutsu school waiting around the corner... not a real one anyway.

Besides, ninjutsu's fighting style is Taijutsu, which means "body skill", thus incorporating everything from breaking bones to nerve strikes to joint locks to throws to breaking fall to general knowledge of the human body and so on.

Many styles concentrate greatly on one specific area (like Jujutsu with pins and joint locks), but every self defense style has these kinds of skills in their curriculum... they are just very advanced techniques and thus not many get to see them or learn them until after many years in training.

Bokuden
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Bokuden
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:40 am


DesiBuu
Something I have noticed in my area is that some of the schools are so focused on MMA and UFC that the technique and defense aspect gets thrown by the way side. Be investigative when looking into a school, check websites, go sit in on classes and watch how the instructors interact with students...see what the ciriculum consists of, do they spend equal time training for the ring as they do the techniques and forms. I've noticed some of the schools around here are heavily involved in mma, which is great...if that's what you want.


So true >.<

MMA has become just another sport and it lacks real technique. It has become nothing more than savagely beating down your opponent.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:06 pm


I do want to do an amature fight at some point though...just for the experience really, I think it would be totally worth it just for the extra training! But, who knows when I'll do it...now that I have health insurance I'm not so worried...lol (Kidding about that btw)

DesiBuu
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DesiBuu
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:09 pm


Sil3nt Pr0digy
I would suggest Ju Jutsu And Ninjitsu. Ninjitsu is useful for if you get in a fight, you would be able to disable your opponents limbs. It is similar to acupressure to specific points on the body, but I would only suggest these martial arts if you are superbly fast. If you are slower than most then Ju Jutsu would be a better choice, but those who have a predisposition to wrestling i would suggest Judo, all 3 of these techniques are useful for throwing your opponent to the ground, and disabling them, so you can get away safely.
I believe Jet Li did a movie where his character used nerve manipulation... I'm not thinking about his Hollywood film 'Kiss of the Dragon' this was basically it's early Hong Kong inspiration! Your post reminded me of that!
PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:32 pm


DesiBuu
I do want to do an amature fight at some point though...just for the experience really, I think it would be totally worth it just for the extra training! But, who knows when I'll do it...now that I have health insurance I'm not so worried...lol (Kidding about that btw)


lol XD

Well, when you do get to do it, I wish you the best of luck ^_^

Bokuden
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ninja_hunter5

PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:24 am


Thats accually the wrong mentality any martial artist should have. martial arts were designed mainly for self defense.... like the shao lin temples in china. they simply adapted their training methods to include self defense. inorder to stop bandits from robbing them. the monks that adapted the use of karate into their kung fu then became known as.... no joke "ghost monks" . and believe me for this im now a 2nd degree black belt. ive had to take history classes for this!!
PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:28 am


Well, many samurai lived to fight until they had the revelation that "The sword is not meant to be drawn."

This may be her case... since karate, as a way of live is very similar to this.

Bokuden
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DesiBuu
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:32 pm


I completely understand the concept of not 'drawing the sword' to use boku's analogy and I have in may instances turned away from a confrontation, even though in some cases a larger part of me wanted to stay and fight. I know full well the honor walking away; but, there is a part of me that is interested in the sport aspect of most martial art schools now a days and the competitor in me would find it curious to step into the ring and go a few rounds with another competitor. The difference between not walking away from a confrontation and fighting in a match is that in the ring, both people are of the understanding that it is for sport, not life...and that regardless of the outcome, both players still walk away with their lives. Nothing but pride is lost. (Though I must say that a true sportsman might even be so much as humbled and awestruck to have come across a greater fighter then himself and having left his ego behind might actually see his loss as a learning experience or even motivation)

Secondly I believe that, in some ways, fighting with an opponent is the closest one can come to testing their ability to survive in a real life situation, without actually engaging in a serious confrontation. Granted, there are certain guide lines each fighter follows, and no persons ultimate goal is to seriously inflict fatal damage to their opponent. But fighting in a match gives you a pretty good idea of just how well you are capable of staying composed and in control during a real scenario as well as just how well your physical capabilities are.

I agree with Ninja_hunter5, fighting goes against the mentality of a true martial artist, but it isn't truly fighting with someone...it's just a glorified, more intense form of sparring...for me at least, though not all ring fighters may see it this way.
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