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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:24 pm
Has anyone here had an out of body experience? Has anyone here actually done astral projection on purpose? I experienced it briefly, just barely floating over my own body before going back in it. Both my parents have had an out of body experiences. They were around my age when it happened to them. Can that run in a family?
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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:59 am
I experiment sometimes with lucid dreaming, and in particular, with one specific technique called the WILD method. Basically entails sleeping for a few hours, interrupting your sleep cycle by waking up much earlier than usual, staying up for an hour or so, then going back to bed and retaining awareness during hypnagogia.
In this one particular instance, I was going through it in the same way I always have, as detailed above. Once I got to the stage of paralysis, I was expecting the usual accompanyments to begin. Visuals, hearing murmurs, that sort of thing.
But in this case, instead I started to feel very light, impossibly light. I also started to notice that I was having difficulty feeling my bed and was experiencing a sensation of motion, like when air passes by your arm when you swing it from side to side. I usually associate these with entering a dreamstate but this was far too early. So after a moment's hesitation, I decided to open my eyes.
To be honest, I'm not entirely sure how to describe what I saw. It was still my room, but it was... different. I don't really know how to say it. It was almost as if it was alive. I got this sense of there being something else to it. I could look across slightly and see myself sleeping. I didn't seem to have a body per se, but there was a sort of almost electrical tingling sensation around all the places I'd /expect/ my body to be, if that makes sense.
It only lasted for about 20 seconds or so, then I started to feel myself shifting into a lucid dream. This was definitely different though, I've not had those kinds of sensation before, even dreaming.
Later on, I learned that the WILD technique can be used to bring these kind of experiences on voluntarily as well, but I've yet to try it.
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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:10 pm
okay... one question... what on the earth is astral projection?!?!?
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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:11 pm
shelbshel15328 okay... one question... what on the earth is astral projection?!?!? Quote: Astral projection is often experienced as the spirit or astral body leaving the physical body to travel in the spirit world or astral plane. I hope that explains it.
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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:20 pm
Outsider 101 I experiment sometimes with lucid dreaming, and in particular, with one specific technique called the WILD method. Basically entails sleeping for a few hours, interrupting your sleep cycle by waking up much earlier than usual, staying up for an hour or so, then going back to bed and retaining awareness during hypnagogia.
In this one particular instance, I was going through it in the same way I always have, as detailed above. Once I got to the stage of paralysis, I was expecting the usual accompanyments to begin. Visuals, hearing murmurs, that sort of thing.
But in this case, instead I started to feel very light, impossibly light. I also started to notice that I was having difficulty feeling my bed and was experiencing a sensation of motion, like when air passes by your arm when you swing it from side to side. I usually associate these with entering a dreamstate but this was far too early. So after a moment's hesitation, I decided to open my eyes.
To be honest, I'm not entirely sure how to describe what I saw. It was still my room, but it was... different. I don't really know how to say it. It was almost as if it was alive. I got this sense of there being something else to it. I could look across slightly and see myself sleeping. I didn't seem to have a body per se, but there was a sort of almost electrical tingling sensation around all the places I'd /expect/ my body to be, if that makes sense.
It only lasted for about 20 seconds or so, then I started to feel myself shifting into a lucid dream. This was definitely different though, I've not had those kinds of sensation before, even dreaming.
Later on, I learned that the WILD technique can be used to bring these kind of experiences on voluntarily as well, but I've yet to try it. Many people have that paralysis, some cases even seem to be linked to alien abduction. How did you feel after that? I freaked out the first time I felt that paralysis.
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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:09 pm
Sleep paralysis has a valid scientific explanation, it's kind of immaterial here. =/
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:43 pm
Windrift Sleep paralysis has a valid scientific explanation, it's kind of immaterial here. =/
Assuming that the paranormal might not have physical mechanisms is a pretty shallow way of looking at things though. There's no reason some paranormal activity can't already have been explained in scientific terms. Just means both sides are missing the other half of the picture.
@Kitsune: Hypnagogia and sleep paralysis don't scare me all that much. There's far too much ahead of me for me to allow myself to be freaked out so easily.
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:22 pm
Outsider 101 Windrift Sleep paralysis has a valid scientific explanation, it's kind of immaterial here. =/
Assuming that the paranormal might not have physical mechanisms is a pretty shallow way of looking at things though. There's no reason some paranormal activity can't already have been explained in scientific terms. Just means both sides are missing the other half of the picture.
@Kitsune: Hypnagogia and sleep paralysis don't scare me all that much. There's far too much ahead of me for me to allow myself to be freaked out so easily.
Yes, and no. Once you take it into consideration, most paranormal activity can easily be explained by theoretical physics. But from what we do consider ourselves to know, sleep paralysis is most likely not caused by something supernatural, as supernatural interference almost always presents as lethargy, pressure, or the feeling of being physically restrained rather than full-blown paralysis, which is easily explained, seeing the time. Of course something supernatural could have had an effect to wake up before the chemical had a chance to cease it's effect, but that's not directly causing it. It's not superficial, it's just going with the more likely option.
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:53 pm
Windrift Outsider 101 Windrift Sleep paralysis has a valid scientific explanation, it's kind of immaterial here. =/
Assuming that the paranormal might not have physical mechanisms is a pretty shallow way of looking at things though. There's no reason some paranormal activity can't already have been explained in scientific terms. Just means both sides are missing the other half of the picture.
@Kitsune: Hypnagogia and sleep paralysis don't scare me all that much. There's far too much ahead of me for me to allow myself to be freaked out so easily.
Yes, and no. Once you take it into consideration, most paranormal activity can easily be explained by theoretical physics. But from what we do consider ourselves to know, sleep paralysis is most likely not caused by something supernatural, as supernatural interference almost always presents as lethargy, pressure, or the feeling of being physically restrained rather than full-blown paralysis, which is easily explained, seeing the time. Of course something supernatural could have had an effect to wake up before the chemical had a chance to cease it's effect, but that's not directly causing it. It's not superficial, it's just going with the more likely option.
Mm, this is true. It's all pretty theoretical after a certain point, which can make pinning these things down somewhat difficult. After all, we're pretty much working with things that aren't commonly assumed to exist, and in my case, trying to tie it to things we definitely know about. God only knows science is only an exact art when you can be assured of something.
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:03 pm
Outsider 101 Windrift Outsider 101 Windrift Sleep paralysis has a valid scientific explanation, it's kind of immaterial here. =/
Assuming that the paranormal might not have physical mechanisms is a pretty shallow way of looking at things though. There's no reason some paranormal activity can't already have been explained in scientific terms. Just means both sides are missing the other half of the picture.
@Kitsune: Hypnagogia and sleep paralysis don't scare me all that much. There's far too much ahead of me for me to allow myself to be freaked out so easily.
Yes, and no. Once you take it into consideration, most paranormal activity can easily be explained by theoretical physics. But from what we do consider ourselves to know, sleep paralysis is most likely not caused by something supernatural, as supernatural interference almost always presents as lethargy, pressure, or the feeling of being physically restrained rather than full-blown paralysis, which is easily explained, seeing the time. Of course something supernatural could have had an effect to wake up before the chemical had a chance to cease it's effect, but that's not directly causing it. It's not superficial, it's just going with the more likely option.
Mm, this is true. It's all pretty theoretical after a certain point, which can make pinning these things down somewhat difficult. After all, we're pretty much working with things that aren't commonly assumed to exist, and in my case, trying to tie it to things we definitely know about. God only knows science is only an exact art when you can be assured of something.
That and technically science doesn't really prove anything so much as gather empirical evidence for or against various hypotheses. ..Pretty sure I've said that exact same thing somewhere on here before..Ah well.. Originality ain't that important. x)
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:11 pm
KitsuneKraze900 shelbshel15328 okay... one question... what on the earth is astral projection?!?!? Quote: Astral projection is often experienced as the spirit or astral body leaving the physical body to travel in the spirit world or astral plane. I hope that explains it. thanks. i was really confused!! confused
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:54 am
KitsuneKraze900 Has anyone here had an out of body experience? Has anyone here actually done astral projection on purpose? I experienced it briefly, just barely floating over my own body before going back in it. Both my parents have had an out of body experiences. They were around my age when it happened to them. Can that run in a family? It can run in the family. My abilities do.
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:20 am
To be honest I don't think out of body expeirences are good no matter how careful you are. There are numeruose things that could go wrong and (not that I know) but it has to be very tiring right?
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:59 pm
Almost every night I have a very vivid and lucid dream or dreams that seem all too real to me. For instance, last summer my mom and I were preparing to move to Gatlinburg,Tn. The night before I had a dream that I was walking up and down Gatlinburg's main street and I even walked up and down the road to where our house would be at memorizing it. I even had lunch with my best friend from middle school. She had no idea that I lived twelve hours away in a different time zone. To me it had all been a very real dream, when I got there the next day I got a healthy dose of shock.
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