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[PL]Tiaret
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:16 am


C o - o w n i n g .. L i o n s

Welcome to the co-ownership agreement thread, a thread dedicated to people who chose to co-own lions of theirs with another person. To keep people safe, happy, and situations fair, this thread will be used to discuss future plots and role playing rights with the lion they chose to own together.


A b o u t .. C o - o w n i n g
  • Co-owning is the process in which one lion is shared and owned by two people. This lion will have both persons names on its cert
  • There are a few ways that lead to co-owning a pet:
    • A person pays for a lion, but decides to share it with another person
    • A person wins a lion in a game and allows another person to share the won lion
    • A person receives a lion in a breeding, but shares the lion with another person
    • Two people pay for the same lion and share it

  • A co-owned lion has role playing rights with either one or both of the people co-owning
  • When breeding a co-owned lion, there either needs to be an extra cub involved, or the two people agree on who gets cubs now and who gets them in the future
  • Co-owning is supposed to be a fun, selfless bond between two people and a lion


Note: Although we would like for it to be, this thread is not required if you do not feel it is necessary. HOWEVER, in the case where conflict does break out between your co-owning partner, you have nothing to fall back on if you did not make agreements beforehand in this thread. You are stuck with your co-owner unless the both of you can come to terms on your own.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:29 am


C o - o w n i n g .. R u l e s

These rules apply to this thread and co-owning and what should occur between both. Please follow them, there are no exceptions!


T h e .. R u l e s
  • A co-owned lion really should be agreed on within this thread
  • Role playing rights, breeding rights, and sig rights must be discussed and written in words here before people start to plot
  • A person that fully paid for, won, or received a lion within a breeding has the right to create the agreements without the other owner's say.
  • In the case where two people paid for a single lion, the agreements must be decided upon by both parties!
  • The people involved in the co-owning must agree to the arrangements fully and must confirm them by saying so here
  • Once agreements are made and confirmed, a staff member will update the following post with what was stated and agreed upon
  • These will act somewhat like a contract that we can fall back on in the case of a disagreement
  • You may NOT edit your post once it is made and agreed upon!


B r e a k i n g .. C o - o w n e r s h i p
  • In the case where co-owners suddenly do not agree with the created agreements, ties can be broken or additional agreements can be made
  • A lion that was fully paid for, won in a game, or received in a breeding by an original owner, this owner simply has to post in this thread to break all ties with co-owner. Why? Because they were the ones who paid for/received the lion in the first place. If the person they decided to co-own with doesn't live up to their contract, the original owners has all rights to break it without the co-owner's agreement
  • A lion that was paid by both parties, however, must be agreed upon by BOTH owners before breaking any ties. One owner cannot just claim full ownership if the other doesn't agree. If the two owners can come to agreements from breaking all ties, then the "Breaking Ties" form should be posted within this thread by one of the owners, THEN agreed on by the other through quoting and confirming
  • If owners cannot come to agreements at all, only then will staff become involved. Remember, we won't be playing any "friends" cards when it comes to this, the staff will decide on the outcome as a whole based on the situation.
  • You should NOT resent any of the staff members for the final decision, this is just childish and completely unfair - they were simply doing their job and trying to HELP

[PL]Tiaret
Vice Captain


[PL]Tiaret
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:43 am


A g r e e m e n t .. C o n t r a c t

If you have recently co-owned a lion with another person, please copy and paste the following form into this thread, filling out all necessary areas. This form, once agreed on by both owners, will be listed in the following post as confirmation.


C o - o w n i n g .. F o r m
  • [size=14][color=green][b]Co-owning Agreements[/b][/color][/size]
    [b]Co-owners:[/b]
    [b]Lion:[/b] [link image]
    [b]How lion was obtained:[/b] [was it paid for by both, or did it originally belong to one person? Please state]
    [b]Sig Rights:[/b] [is this person allowed to put the lion in their sig?]
    [b]Role Playing Rights:[/b] [how will role playing work out?]
    [b]Breeding Rights:[/b] [in the case the lion breeds, how will cubs be determined?]
    [b]Additional Agreements:[/b] [anything else you wish to add]

  • Following this form should be the other owner's confirmation. A simple quoting of the post with a "I confirm these co-ownership agreements" will do fine


B r e a k i n g .. T i e s .. F o r m
  • [size=14][color=red][b]B r e a k i n g .. T i e s[/b][/color][/size]
    [b]Co-owners:[/b]
    [b]Lion:[/b] [link image]
    [b]How lion was obtained:[/b] [was it paid for by both, or did it originally belong to one person? Please state]
    [b]Reason for breaking co-ownership:[/b]
    [b]Agreements Made:[/b]
    [b]Additional Information:[/b]

  • Following this form should be the other owner's confirmation. A simple quoting of the post with a "I confirm in breaking all lies with this lion" will do fine
PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:04 am


C o - o w n e d .. L i o n s

Below are the list of the current co-owned lions along with their agreements. These will not be taken down, edited, or changed unless ties were broken and confirmed.


T h e .. L i s t
Silver Metallic Dragon
Iratus Mancipium
Co-owning Agreements
Co-owners: Iratus Mancipium and Silver Metallic Dragon
Lion: Jormungand
How lion was obtained: He came from a breeding between my lioness Discord and Twitchs boy Stryker.
Sig Rights: Both are allowed to have him in their sig.
Role Playing Rights: Silver has all rights.
Breeding Rights: With the first breeding, in the case of two cubs I will recieve one, while the owner of the mother will receive the other. If their is a third cub, Silver will get the third.
Additional Agreements: In the case that Silver will be gone for a long amount of time, I will take on the rp rights to be sure that plots do not be put on hold or fall behind.
If for any reason silver and myself can no longer co-own in peace she will have full ownership and rights to Jor.
I agree to all of it.

  • Yin-Bug
    Ripple
    Co-owning Agreements
    Co-owners: Yin-bug & [x~Ripple~x]
    Lion: Azazel Eros
    How lion was obtained: Ripple paid in full for the cub after proxying for Yin in the Christmas '07 FS, in failing to manage to claim her anything they agree'd to co-own the cocoa cub.
    Sig Rights: Both have full sig rights.
    Role Playing Rights: Both have full RPing rights though Yin tends to RP him more.
    Breeding Rights: Both must agree to the breeding over IM/PM, then cubs are worked out between us, if there isn't enough for us both to claim one co-owning may occur though either owner is welcome to give up rights.
    Additional Agreements: IF it got to the point Yin and I no longer agree'd to co-own Ripple will give full rights to Yin.
    @Ripple: HereHere. All agreed on my side. <3

  • Youkosperv
    AmaDawn
    Co-owning Agreements
    Co-owners: AmaDawn and Youkosperv
    Lion: [link image] Devlin
    How lion was obtained: [was it paid for by both, or did it originally belong to one person? Please state] Gifted to AmaDawn and YoukosPerv by Ripple
    Sig Rights: [is this person allowed to put the lion in their sig?] Both AmaDawn and Youkosperv have sig rights, and may post this lion in this sig if they chose.
    Role Playing Rights: [how will role playing work out?] Both AmaDawn and Youkosperv have role playing right to this lion. Whom ever if online at the time may role play him. In the case that both AmaDawn and Youkosperv are online, Youkosperv will be rping this lion, unless AmaDawn has a plot in mind, and in such a case the plot will be discussed through messenger before role playing takes place.
    Breeding Rights: [in the case the lion breeds, how will cubs be determined?] In the case of a breeding, the one who get’s first choice will be determined by randomized number. Should the breeding be with any other lion not owned by either Youkosperv or AmaDawn, rights to first pick of the litter will also be determined by randomized number. AmaDawn will hold even numbers, Youkosperv will hold odd numbers.
    Additional Agreements: [anything else you wish to add] Any plotting or joining of prides will be discussed and determined by both AmaDawn and Youkosperv in messenger.


    I agree to all of this.

  • Lunar Mirage
    Iratus Mancipium
    Co-owning Agreements
    Co-owners: Iratus Mancipium(Jezzabelle Kissntell) and Lunar Mirage
    Lion: Tyranny
    How lion was obtained: Won it in the 3rd year anniversary dream contest.
    Sig Rights: Both persons are allowed sig rights.
    Role Playing Rights: Mira will be role playing him
    Breeding Rights: cubs will be split between owners in the case there are two. If their are three one cub will be given away.
    Additional Agreements: If for any reason Mira is unable to get on for a period of time, and she has Tyranny in plots I will gain rp rights to ensure that her plots do not fall behind. When she returns all rp rights will go back to her. If for some reason we can no longer co-own in peace I will keep Tyranny but any of the offspring she received from breedings will still belong to her.

    I confirm these co-ownership agreements. heart

  • [PL]Tiaret
    Vice Captain


    [PL]Tiaret
    Vice Captain

    PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:06 am


    B r o k e n .. T i e s

    Below are the list of the lions that were originally co-owned, but had all ties broken due to conflict or another situation. This is here for future reference and documentation so staff can fall back on it if there is ever another problem.


    T h e .. L i s t
    • None as of now
    PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:12 am


    R e s e r v e d

    [PL]Tiaret
    Vice Captain


    [PL]Tiaret
    Vice Captain

    PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:13 am


    R e s e r v e d
    PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:15 am


    R e s e r v e d

    [PL]Tiaret
    Vice Captain


    [PL]Tiaret
    Vice Captain

    PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:37 am


    Open for posting :3
    PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:02 am


    Co-owning Agreements
    Co-owners: Iratus Mancipium(Jezzabelle Kissntell) and Lunar Mirage
    Lion: Tyranny
    How lion was obtained: Won it in the 3rd year anniversary dream contest.
    Sig Rights: Both persons are allowed sig rights.
    Role Playing Rights: Mira will be role playing him
    Breeding Rights: cubs will be split between owners in the case there are two. If their are three one cub will be given away.
    Additional Agreements: If for any reason Mira is unable to get on for a period of time, and she has Tyranny in plots I will gain rp rights to ensure that her plots do not fall behind. When she returns all rp rights will go back to her. If for some reason we can no longer co-own in peace I will keep Tyranny but any of the offspring she received from breedings will still belong to her.

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    PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:28 am


    Co-owning Agreements
    Co-owners: Iratus Mancipium and Silver Metallic Dragon
    Lion: Jormungand
    How lion was obtained: He came from a breeding between my lioness Discord and Twitchs boy Stryker.
    Sig Rights: Both are allowed to have him in their sig.
    Role Playing Rights: Silver has all rights.
    Breeding Rights: With the first breeding, in the case of two cubs I will recieve one, while the owner of the mother will receive the other. If their is a third cub, Silver will get the third.
    Additional Agreements: In the case that Silver will be gone for a long amount of time, I will take on the rp rights to be sure that plots do not be put on hold or fall behind.
    If for any reason silver and myself can no longer co-own in peace she will have full ownership and rights to Jor.
    PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:41 am


    I agree to all of it.

    Silver Metallic Dragon

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    PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:42 am


    Co-owning Agreements
    Co-owners: 44Scorpion44 & [x~Ripple~x]
    Lion: Ivy
    How lion was obtained: FLB game, both entered and obviously won but Ripple decided to give away her prize and share Ivy. 3rd ani event I believe.
    Sig Rights: Both have full sig rights.
    Role Playing Rights: Both have full RP rights.
    Breeding Rights: Determined at the time, but if Scorpion shows interest in any offspring he gets first dibs.
    Additional Agreements: We're RL friends and Scorpion only comes onto Gaia when I poke him, and as such I'm reserving most rights to her until he becomes active / interested in RPing her. So unless he tells me otherwise I'll be RPing her/breeding her if I see fit.
    PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:51 am


    Co-owning Agreements
    Co-owners: Yin-bug & [x~Ripple~x]
    Lion: Azazel Eros
    How lion was obtained: Ripple paid in full for the cub after proxying for Yin in the Christmas '07 FS, in failing to manage to claim her anything they agree'd to co-own the cocoa cub.
    Sig Rights: Both have full sig rights.
    Role Playing Rights: Both have full RPing rights though Yin tends to RP him more.
    Breeding Rights: Both must agree to the breeding over IM/PM, then cubs are worked out between us, if there isn't enough for us both to claim one co-owning may occur though either owner is welcome to give up rights.
    Additional Agreements: IF it got to the point Yin and I no longer agree'd to co-own Ripple will give full rights to Yin.

    [x~Ripple~x]

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    AmaDawn

    PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:17 am


    Co-owning Agreements
    Co-owners: AmaDawn and Youkosperv
    Lion: [link image] Devlin
    How lion was obtained: [was it paid for by both, or did it originally belong to one person? Please state] Gifted to AmaDawn and YoukosPerv by Ripple
    Sig Rights: [is this person allowed to put the lion in their sig?] Both AmaDawn and Youkosperv have sig rights, and may post this lion in this sig if they chose.
    Role Playing Rights: [how will role playing work out?] Both AmaDawn and Youkosperv have role playing right to this lion. Whom ever if online at the time may role play him. In the case that both AmaDawn and Youkosperv are online, Youkosperv will be rping this lion, unless AmaDawn has a plot in mind, and in such a case the plot will be discussed through messenger before role playing takes place.
    Breeding Rights: [in the case the lion breeds, how will cubs be determined?] In the case of a breeding, the one who get’s first choice will be determined by randomized number. Should the breeding be with any other lion not owned by either Youkosperv or AmaDawn, rights to first pick of the litter will also be determined by randomized number. AmaDawn will hold even numbers, Youkosperv will hold odd numbers.
    Additional Agreements: [anything else you wish to add] Any plotting or joining of prides will be discussed and determined by both AmaDawn and Youkosperv in messenger.
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