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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:46 am
That the guild recognise its inactivity as wrong for a group that wishes to change the world. That recognising such, the guild send out PMs to all members of the guild, and Emails to those members not currently active on gaia requesting their renewed activity or a request of leave if they wish to remain a member but cannot commit. Commit here is understood to mean post at least two political (i.e. non-spam/social) posts in the guild each week. That the need has presented itself, the guild create a Correspondence Committee to deal with this problem.
I nominate the following Comrades* for the CorCom: Comrade Gracchvs Comrade Merewyn Comrade SovietTank
In addittion, I request another two people for the CorCom. Given that we only have Comrades Robson, Eden, Nibi and Xion active at the moment, I also request that the CorCom, if it is created, select two of those comrades to join it.
All who support the motion, please assent, all who agree in he main or in part, please propose an amendment to the motion. All who disagree, please make it known.
YAE: 5 Gracchvs Robson Merewyn Gallenger Justice
NAE: 1 M-Mann
Amendments: *The list of founding committe members is changed to: ]]Cde Gracchvs ]]Cde Merewyn ]]Cde M-Mann
Motion Passed. BOOYAH!
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:25 am
realy im one of the posible chosen ones? i am honored
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:37 am
honestly i say hawkings and me should be in this i mean cmon my stuff is only 3 notches down from the stickies
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:37 am
First, the motion has to get passed. I wouldn't be supprised if people want to pass the motion without the CorCom stuff, that is, I expect people to want people to be PMed without an official organ to do it.
If it is voted in, there is still the issue of the initial three people. I nominated myself, because i have massive amounts of free time, Tank is the current leader, and Mere is Vice (though she seems busy, so she might want out of it). And then, the initial three will have to decide among themselves (according to the current plan) who the other two will be, based on what they have seen so far. They should make their judgement based on who has time, and who is ideologically reliable.
tl;dr: Noone is making any decisions just yet, and the decision may not be up to you.
Anyway. Do you think it is a good idea, or not? If not, what would need to be changed to make it good?
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:09 am
I'm in favor of the motion. Im on here often as well so i think i would make a good canidate for on of the open two seats.
Also i think we should kick start a recruition plan as well to get some fresh minds in here.
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:57 am
Remember that this guild has a purpose, and its name implies its membership. We cannot begin a recruitment drive when people do not, by-and-large, agree with our politics.
Then there is the very fact of our political heterogeneity: we have trotskyists, stalinists, social democrats, anarchoids, fascists (we aren't stalinist, so they're allowed in, apparrently ******** disgusting.).
Something has to be done about that first, if we want the guild to be meaningful.
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:57 am
good point, im totaly for this motion there are 500 users atleast 75% of them should moderatley post new topics, or replys
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:01 pm
Gracchvs Remember that this guild has a purpose, and its name implies its membership. We cannot begin a recruitment drive when people do not, by-and-large, agree with our politics. Then there is the very fact of our political heterogeneity: we have trotskyists, stalinists, social democrats, anarchoids, fascists (we aren't stalinist, so they're allowed in, apparrently ******** disgusting.). Something has to be done about that first, if we want the guild to be meaningful. Well i mean i dont think it's realistic to bring everyone together in this guild under one political banner. Thats why it's the Neo-Communism, Communism, Socialism Guild. There are those who take an interest in learning over these things, i dont think it would hurt to be more out-reaching.
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:04 pm
Who are these "fascists" that I always hear mentioned but never see posting?
And quite honestly, how can you have a productive guild about communism if they're here? I suppose they could offer good debate... except I've never seen a post by such person. confused -is confused-
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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:33 am
Quote: Well i mean i dont think it's realistic to bring everyone together in this guild under one political banner. Thats why it's the Neo-Communism, Communism, Socialism Guild. I understand that, and I have been on record as saying that anyone not of the NCS persuasion, should be kicked. That is, at the very least, one has to be a social democrat with a commitment to achieving socialism one day. As I said in the bit you quoted: Remember that this guild has a purpose, and its name implies its membership.
Being the internet, I have no illusions about the possibility about building a bolshevik party here. But what I do want is a thoroughly proletarian guild, at leeast in political ideology. Quote: There are those who take an interest in learning over these things, i dont think it would hurt to be more out-reaching. As I have said before, though I doubt you would know, we have the Community for that. The NCS community exists purely to be a more informal guild where people can talk and learn about socialism and communism in a more relaxed atmosphere. The exact workings of how I imagine that to be can be detailed n another thread or PM. This one, I would like to keep as on topic as possible. This is the latest fascistQuote: how can you have a productive guild about communism if they're here? You cannot, which is why I have been fighting against their inclusion, and also against allowing members of this guild to be members of, or post in, fascist guilds. As I have said in Nibi's thread: You cannot argue with fascists. Doing so means you admit what they have to say is a valid viewpoint. They aren't just conservative, who want to hold the clock still, or even reactionary, and want to turn the clock back. The want to destroy all conceptions of working class democracy. Any chance of workers revolution. Luckily they generally do not post here. So, so far we have a total of 2 votes (Gracchvs, Robson). 2 for (Gracchvs Robson), 0 against. I have made the poll last a week, so whatever the votes are then, that is what shall be counted. As long as the current crew do not object?
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:52 am
I'm up for it. We should have a prepared message to be PMed en masse. I'm not for kicking, but I do think a mass PM would help us to renew activity.
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:12 pm
Yeah, this motion is not about kicking. Consolidation of ideological and active membership happens later, and will be seperate actions. Of course I hope people agree.
Currently 3 votes cast (Gracchvs, Robson Merewyn): 3 FOR (Gracchvs, Robson, Merewyn), 0 AGAINST. The poll says there have been four votes. Who is the fourth, and what is their vote? Am I right in assuming it is: Nibi FOR? Until I get word, I shall not do anything more than ask that.
If Tank could make his vote known, it would be much appreciated.
Also, if anyone has a message base that they think would be appropriate, I I would be happy to tack it on to the motion as a friendly ammendment. Also, Also, are you up for this Mere? You don't seem to come on much, twice a week it seems. If you would prefer someone else take your place, speak now, before it has been voted in. I wouldn't want you to vote on a motion you couldn't carry out.
Now, back to sleep for me. I am sipping class today, I feel like I have a minor hang over... I don't get hang overs, and I haven't had a drop of alchohol in since before christmas. Random hanggover does not bode well. Goodnight (It is 7am here, so it has to be night over in your land, right?)
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:53 pm
Gracchvs Yeah, this motion is not about kicking. Consolidation of ideological and active membership happens later, and will be seperate actions. Of course I hope people agree. Currently 3 votes cast (Gracchvs, Robson Merewyn): 3 FOR (Gracchvs, Robson, Merewyn), 0 AGAINST. The poll says there have been four votes. Who is the fourth, and what is their vote? Am I right in assuming it is: Nibi FOR? Until I get word, I shall not do anything more than ask that. If Tank could make his vote known, it would be much appreciated. Also, if anyone has a message base that they think would be appropriate, I I would be happy to tack it on to the motion as a friendly ammendment. Also, Also, are you up for this Mere? You don't seem to come on much, twice a week it seems. If you would prefer someone else take your place, speak now, before it has been voted in. I wouldn't want you to vote on a motion you couldn't carry out. Now, back to sleep for me. I am sipping class today, I feel like I have a minor hang over... I don't get hang overs, and I haven't had a drop of alchohol in since before christmas. Random hanggover does not bode well. Goodnight (It is 7am here, so it has to be night over in your land, right?) I think you're a little drunk comrade....
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:33 pm
I would do a little House dialogue, but am way too tired and sick. And not drunk. As I said: Haven't touched a drop in over a month.
Unless, y'know, I'm drunk on life or something.
If that is the case... Shoot me. I do not want a hangover just for living.
ugh, can't sleep... Not with intertubez lying next to me.
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:57 pm
I have time mostly on weekends lately, but I can make some time to send them out if I need to. It should be okay.
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