Welcome to Gaia! ::

The Marxist, Communist, and Socialist Guild

Back to Guilds

Formerly called the NCS, this is a place for communists and socialists to talk about communism and socialism. 

Tags: Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Political, Left 

Reply MCS: Marxism, Communism, Socialism
the first Nibi thread Goto Page: 1 2 [>] [»|]

Quick Reply

Enter both words below, separated by a space:

Can't read the text? Click here

Submit

Final Starman DX

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:20 pm


hi people do you go out of your way to educate the fascist who dont like commies and soccies alike even though they dont know what it realy is?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:13 am


No. They are scum that want to destroy all aspects of proletarian democracy, eliminate entire populations and are just general scumbags that need to be crushed.

Le Pere Duchesne
Captain

Beloved Prophet


Final Starman DX

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:24 pm


Gracchvs
No. They are scum that want to destroy all aspects of proletarian democracy, eliminate entire populations and are just general scumbags that need to be crushed.


woot! go gracchvs!
PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:55 pm


It is vital to our movement to educate anyone that we can.

Lady Merewyn


Le Pere Duchesne
Captain

Beloved Prophet

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:04 pm


How ambiguous Mere.
The question I want to ask you now is this: Do you think fascists can be educated?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:22 pm


It depends on the person. A lot of them are fascists because they're uneducated.

Lady Merewyn


Le Pere Duchesne
Captain

Beloved Prophet

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:34 pm


How do you educate someone who wants you dead?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:02 am


You do so from a distance, or when they are not armed.

Lady Merewyn


eden-of-mine

Questionable Prophet

7,700 Points
  • Bunny Spotter 50
  • Timid 100
  • Megathread 100
PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 12:35 pm


Gracchvs
How do you educate someone who wants you dead?
a nightmare ofEDEN



Cute how Gracchvs and other Communists here speak of liberation yet have no respect for liberty or life.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:17 pm


A Nightmare of Eden
Gracchvs
How do you educate someone who wants you dead?
a nightmare ofEDEN



Cute how Gracchvs and other Communists here speak of liberation yet have no respect for liberty or life.



Now look whos mudslinging.

Intermundia


Le Pere Duchesne
Captain

Beloved Prophet

PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:36 pm


Quote:
Now look whos mudslinging.

I lol'd

Quote:
Cute how Gracchvs and other Communists here speak of liberation yet have no respect for liberty or life.

I rarely speak of liberation these days. But that isn't important. What is important is that these people want us dead and we cannot simply talk to them about it. They want to destroy all organs of workers' democracy: soviets, unions, workers' associations, clubs, you name it, they want it gone. They are the most staunch defenders of the bourgeois nation, and as such, will do anything they can in order to strengthen it. Like with all nationalism, it relies on racism and tradition for its ideology: kick out/kill minorities, put women back into the brothels and the kitchens.

You cannot argue with them. They want us dead because of what we believe in (and for the non-white members of the guild, because of your skin). How do you convince someone of the correctness of your vies when those views are the reason they want to kill you? You cannot.
The only way to eliminate fascism is to eliminate capitalism. And on the way, we can try to get organised contingents of workers to defend people from fascists, violently if necessary.

And please tell me, where in all the marxist literature on the subject is there anything about respect for life?
I only need point out that MELT were very fond of Clauswitz.

Respect for liberty?
Please read Lenin's The State and Revolution. Engels deals with this as well, as does Marx, though Lenin's book is much more concise. As long as the working class has need for a state, it is to protect itself against the exploiters. Once there is 'liberty' there is no need for a state, and it will have whithered away.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 5:04 pm


ac ive converted many fascists
Woot ussr for the win!

Final Starman DX


xion-dono

PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:19 pm


nibi no neckomata
ac ive converted many fascists
Woot ussr for the win!
Except that they failed...

How does a nonexistent government win anything by your conversion of some teens in the states?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:36 pm


A Nightmare of Eden
Gracchvs
How do you educate someone who wants you dead?
a nightmare ofEDEN



Cute how Gracchvs and other Communists here speak of liberation yet have no respect for liberty or life.
Oh please. Emotion only works in the minds of the inept.

UF6


UF6

PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:41 pm


nibi no neckomata
ac ive converted many fascists
Woot ussr for the win!


I doubt you seen what fascism really is if it been in mass conversions, once the fascist stop humping the church and go for a degree in natural sciences I expect most people to take them more serious than a bunch of people hating others and more of people with the ability to do much more than wear white hoods. Once they discard the old ideology of racism and sexism they will be a force much different.
Reply
MCS: Marxism, Communism, Socialism

Goto Page: 1 2 [>] [»|]
 
Manage Your Items
Other Stuff
Get GCash
Offers
Get Items
More Items
Where Everyone Hangs Out
Other Community Areas
Virtual Spaces
Fun Stuff
Gaia's Games
Mini-Games
//
//

// //

Have an account? Login Now!

//
//