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Clan Dragoon

PostPosted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:41 pm


Evening,

If you're reading this then obviously you saw that I'm asking to be flamed, or more correctly torn apart. Now, before I tell you what I'd like to ask you to read (and I thank you from even reading this posting, even if you don't read the story) I'm going to make my point of what I'd like out of this very clear.

I'm looking for someone to look at a style of the piece and it's effectiveness of demonstrating the concept of the main plot. I'll warn, I'm not a grammar person - I'd like to believe that there are no more then five spelling errors in my pieces but I'm not extremely technical.

Now, on to the information if you so wish to choose to read, you may be gone by now.

The piece is a Final Fantasy Seven piece parted a few years after the game. Not directly put into Advent Children or Drige but more a conceptual spin after the airship crash in the last scene of the game.

The idea is that Tifa hit her head and developed backwards amnesia and cannot form new memories - think Dory from Finding Nemo, but in a much less comical way.

It was based off Memento Mori, or Memento - excellent movie by and by.

It's broken into two perspectives, one of a first person ideal and another with a very bland in the moment third person objective view. It was done to really give a dark and gloomy taste in the mouth.

Well, that's all I'll really give now. The main reason for asking for your aid however is because the piece is very unpopular to my other style's and has no reviews - thus I have nothing to really mull over. I want to know if the style should just die and I should abandon the writing to chase my more popular ideas.

Thank you for your time, below is the link to the story and the basic information. It's rather short and acts as a one-shot with a very dark and empty ending. There are no happy endings for people who were never heroes.

Ten Minute Memoir
You’re a frozen vegetable. Reno had always been punctual in that sense. And when the doctors couldn’t waste their time to continually tell you, Reno volunteered to save Cloud the pain of repeating it. To remind you of that dark circle in your brain.
Complete - Final Fantasy VII - Fiction Rated: T - English - Drama/Angst - Chapters: 1 - Words: 3,222
PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:30 am


First off, your story sounds really interesting. I saw the movie Memento and liked it immensely - combining that with Final Fantasy VII should make for a memorable fic.

Secondly, I'd like to point you in the direction of The Fanfiction Exchange Thread. It's a place where you can ask an author to give constructive criticism on your story, in exchange that you give some to theirs in return. It's all good people there, we haven't run across any flamers or trolls (yet ^^; ).

Finally, should I leave that review on FFnet or would you prefer it if I sent it in by PM or posted it here? ^^

PadawanCyn


Clan Dragoon

PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:10 pm


ah, thank you - I haven't been back to the guild in a long while, lost my way. But thank you for pointing it out in the future, much appreciated.

Someone who saw memento? Perfect! You sound like an excellent person to be having this go over with! And I'd gladly extend my hand to any of your fics. I usually do it in free time just for fun seeing other styles. So please, choose one for me and I'll get to work - note that I'm not a technical grammar person - simplistic and most normal sounding issues I can work out but the really complicate measures blow past me.

I am good with characterization and stylistic devises however. If that means anything to you.

Leaving feedback here would be fine, thank you.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:09 pm


Hi! No, I didn't forget about you... the reason it took me so long to reply was because I had to take some time to figure out what I'd say about your fic! There were some things about it that I liked, some things that I thought were very well done, some things that I thought could perhaps have been better explored, but I couldn't put my finger on why exactly this fic did not captivate me. So I had to think about it a bit.

I really liked the first person point of view. It worked beautifully and it was a huge surprise to find out just who the narrator was because it sounded so different from present-time Tifa (and a bit contradictory that at one point she had such a deep understanding of her condition - but that was part of the reason it worked so amazingly well). At first, I had my bet on Reno because of the summary, haha.

I also loved your writing style - it's subtle and yet does not fail to make a point. The whole fic breathes quiet despair... it really conveys how helpless Tifa became and how sad it was for those around her to see her fall - tragic. As for grammar? Impeccable as far as I could tell.

But then, here was one of the things that I didn't quite like. You hint at but never quite explore the events in-between the accident that doomed Tifa and the present, and therefore it was very odd to see everyone turning their backs on a close friend. For instance, what's the story with Reno? How did he go from an enemy to Cloud's replacement as Tifa's support? It wasn't even clear up until half-way through that Tifa had indeed married Cloud and not some other guy - and on a story that's as short as this, I see those gaps as something of a flaw.

But it's possible that that ambiguity was a conscious choice on your part - after all, Tifa herself clearly didn't know everything that had happened - and if that's the case, then it's ok.

This wasn't what bothered me (though "bother" may be too much of a strong word here) most. What did (I think) was how childish Tifa acted. At the time of FFVII, she did have a bit of an unhealthy attraction to Cloud, but she was also a very strong woman in her own right. She should have retained some of this strength, because if she is indeed "frozen in time" then that means that she never grows and her personality never changes. Seeing her act so submissively was disturbing.

Overall, though, I thought this was an extremely well done piece of fanfiction. I can see that it wouldn't appeal to the typical reader of FFnet because it's so tragic and serious, but speaking for myself I truly enjoyed the level of detail and character introspection you put into it. Despite all that I've said above, it was definitely moving, so... nicely done!

You don't have to read any of my fics just to return the favour. I had a great time reading yours, so that's "payment" enough. If you insist, though, just follow the link on my sig to my Naruto ficlets and pick one at random. There probably isn't much to comment on, because they're all so short, haha... ^^'

PadawanCyn


Clan Dragoon

PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:27 pm


PadawanCyn

I really liked the first person point of view. It worked beautifully and it was a huge surprise to find out just who the narrator was because it sounded so different from present-time Tifa (and a bit contradictory that at one point she had such a deep understanding of her condition - but that was part of the reason it worked so amazingly well). At first, I had my bet on Reno because of the summary, haha.


Ah yes, I'm pleased to hear that the connection between Tifa and the first person narrative was made and worked out correctly. I chose to contrast the two styles to create the present time Tifa - her simplistic desires against a deep core of understanding. Childish and despair paired together.

PadawanCyn
You hint at but never quite explore the events in-between the accident that doomed Tifa and the present, and therefore it was very odd to see everyone turning their backs on a close friend. For instance, what's the story with Reno? How did he go from an enemy to Cloud's replacement as Tifa's support? It wasn't even clear up until half-way through that Tifa had indeed married Cloud and not some other guy - and on a story that's as short as this, I see those gaps as something of a flaw.


I actually completely agree with you, The thought was to keep it very ambiguous to play the reader like Tifa in a sense. Because she's trapped in a moment, then everything around her would be skewed of understanding - so the reader confused of linear events leading up to it would be how Tifa's life is. But after reading it several times, I don't really like the choice - it feels too complex for everything else working in the story.


PadawanCyn
What did (I think) was how childish Tifa acted. At the time of FFVII, she did have a bit of an unhealthy attraction to Cloud, but she was also a very strong woman in her own right. She should have retained some of this strength, because if she is indeed "frozen in time" then that means that she never grows and her personality never changes. Seeing her act so submissively was disturbing.


As stated above, I tried to use two extremes of Tifa for a balance. But you're right, I can now see that even in the first person narrative - there are places were Tifa appears weak - much more then should be. I'll have to make an effort to shift that ideal.

PadawanCyn
You don't have to read any of my fics just to return the favour. I had a great time reading yours, so that's "payment" enough. If you insist, though, just follow the link on my sig to my Naruto ficlets and pick one at random. There probably isn't much to comment on, because they're all so short, haha... ^^'


I thank you so much for taking the time - now I finally know what anyone thinks of it. So, thank you again. I will return the favor many times over and I'll read your fics for sure - may I leave the reviews here or in the story itself?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:36 pm


Glad to have been of help! I'd love to read the revised version as well afterwards (if indeed you intend to revise it).
Ahh, you can leave the reviews on the story thread itself... you really don't have to, but thanks! User Image

PadawanCyn

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