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 Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:17 am
"True Christians are Defined by their actions, NOT their words, for words account for nothing" - Me,
Some "Christians" live their lives in a way where they don't show the actions (fruits of the spirit) and just say "I love God, isn't that enough?" the simple answer is no, its not enough. What bothers me is the thought of "Hey _____? You think your words are enough? Did you forget who created you? Don't you think you owe him your LIFE not just petty words?"
~LONG VERSE TIME~ lol
Luke
6:43 “For no good tree bears bad fruit, nor again does a bad tree bear good fruit, 6:44 for each tree is known by its own fruit. For figs are not gathered from thorns, nor are grapes picked from brambles. 6:45 The good person out of the good treasury of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasuryproduces evil, for his mouth speaks from what fills his heart.
6:46
“Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and don’t do what I tell you?
6:47 “Everyone who comes to me and listens to my words and puts them into practice—I will show you what he is like: 6:48 He is like a manbuilding a house, who dug down deep, and laid the foundation on bedrock. When a flood came, the river burst against that house but could not shake it, because it had been well built. 6:49 But the person who hears and does not put my words into practice is like a man who built a house on the ground without a foundation. When the river burst against that house,it collapsed immediately, and was utterly destroyed!”
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Matthew 7:21
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of heaven—only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven. 7:22 On that day, many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in your name, and in your name cast out demons and do many powerful deeds?’ 7:23 Then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you. Go away from me, you lawbreakers!’
So if you or any of your friends are under the impression that just knowing about God is enough and just saying "Oh Lord i love you" and singing songs in Church that mean nothihn to you is giong to get you to heaven, think again, Look at those verses, you NEED a relationship with Christ, and ACT upon it!
Again, if you've got any questions for me, feel free to email, or just ask here
Thanks
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:18 pm
Thanks for that, Mishy. That's a great reminder.
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:33 pm
And how exactly do you suggest we act on it?
I don't know... but it seems like all of this *Gestures around* Is getting closer to sounding like lord of the rings...
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:26 pm
Actions speak louder than words, because when someone says they are sorry given a conflict, they can turn back around and gossip. Or, instead, they can defend the one they were upset with. They can put themselves in that person's shoes, and look at the situation from a different mind set. This is an example.
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:31 pm
Kio Landera And how exactly do you suggest we act on it? I don't know... but it seems like all of this *Gestures around* Is getting closer to sounding like lord of the rings... We are to love the Lord our God with all our heart and we are to love our neighbor as ourselves. That is how we are to act upon it. Actions speak louder than words in every situation. Anyone can say something they know is socially acceptable. Not everyone behaves in moral, social or right ways. We all know someone who has been lied to or used by someone who said all the right things but acted in a wholly selfish and heartless way. In personal relationships, public figures, politicians, lawyers, the panhandler who gets into a mercedes after his 'shift'; are just a few examples. I'm not sure I understand what you mean by 'lord of the rings'. Do you think being a Christian is like belonging to some kind of club? Knowing Christ is a life changing thing. Faith in God is more than just words or repeating a 'magic formula', it is a living, life changing thing. Saying 'I'm a Christian" is not a 'get out of jail free' card, and it's not something to be said lightly. Those words have meaning.
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Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:22 pm
Saying 'I'm a Christian" is not a 'get out of jail free' card, and it's not something to be said lightly. Those words have meaning.
Concidering that there are those who have died because they have professed their faith is showing us how we are suppose to live out our lives. We are suppose to follow Jesus Example in humility, we need to humble ourselves. And, Also, hiding your faith, or not professing it is as if you are ashamed of God. I dunno, it bothers me when you meet someone, they call themselves a "Christian" but are too afraid to profess that to others. In the bible it says for us to Go among the Nations and Create disciples of all peoples...etc. People!!! WAKE UP! we're suppose to be professing our faith whether people like it or not. People were stoned to death on a street corner back in the olden days for professing that Jesus is Lord. And also, the bible says that You can not be a people pleaser and still serve God (I can give you the reference if you'd liek it, I don't have my bible on me atm)
Alllso! If you want to have a personal relationship with Jesus and God, you Kinda NEED to spend time with them. Whether it be in time reading the bible and reflecting or in Prayer or both (both is best btw) it needs to happen. If it doesn't, then you really don't have much of a relationship if anything at all. How are you suppose to love someone you never talk to or hang out with right?
If your best friend took a bullet for you and died. Would you visit their grave? Bring flowers out of respect? Morn their death?
Ok, most would, Soooo Jesus took hell for you, so that you could have the chance to go to heaven if you have a personal realtionship with him and ask him into your life (Btw peoples, simply believing in him isn't enough, Satan belives in him and look where he's at). Ya kinda owe him the FREQUENT visits, talk to him, pray, read the bible.
Makes sence to me, how about you guys?
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:18 am
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:56 pm
Mishy-Fishy Quote: Saying 'I'm a Christian" is not a 'get out of jail free' card, and it's not something to be said lightly. Those words have meaning. Concidering that there are those who have died because they have professed their faith is showing us how we are suppose to live out our lives. We are suppose to follow Jesus Example in humility, we need to humble ourselves. And, Also, hiding your faith, or not professing it is as if you are ashamed of God. I dunno, it bothers me when you meet someone, they call themselves a "Christian" but are too afraid to profess that to others. In the bible it says for us to Go among the Nations and Create disciples of all peoples...etc. People!!! WAKE UP! we're suppose to be professing our faith whether people like it or not.
11"Whatever town or village you enter, search for some worthy person there and stay at his house until you leave. 12As you enter the home, give it your greeting. 13If the home is deserving, let your peace rest on it; if it is not, let your peace return to you. 14If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town.And the reason? Probably because God already knew what we can demonstrate by experience. You cannot force people to believe. All you do is drive them away when you try to force them. It is not given to us to change someone's heart. That is for the Spirit. Our witness is in how we treat others, not how loudly we preach! Our witness is in how we live our lives, in the love, the compassion and the humility we present. Not in how judgemental we can be or how self righteous. When we preach to those who are unwilling to listen we only show ourselves to be full of our own pride, not God's love or compassion. Who has made more disciples of men? Jerry Falwell or Mother Teresa?
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:09 pm
Saying you're a Christian but not acting in that manner would be like me saying i'm going to shoot you, nothing would happen unless I put action into my statement.
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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:37 pm
lol yeah thats pretty much it. and in response to Sapphia, I didn't mean, force it on them, I didn't mean yell it in the streets and you'll be on Gods "Good list". I meant that no matter what you do, If your a Christian, there are going to be people who don't like you for it. It happens, its called Persecution. God tells us that we are going to face that because we believe and love his son. I'm not saying force it down their throats, but I am saying that we can't stop spreading Gods word because its not convient for them. By following Jesus example, he said things that the Pharises didn't like, it wasn't convient for them, yet, it needed to be said. I don't mean to sound harsh, but Christians are WAAAAY to lenient these days. We let so much slip by because others don't like it, we remain silent because we're afraid of persecution, Speak up, Wake up. Gods love is meant for everyone. Not just for us in the comfort of our own homes.
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:15 pm
... And even then, it's still very hard to get the message out in our own homes. Been there, done that. It's even harder at times. But still, the Word needs to be out there and alive in all we are as Christians. You're right.
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 8:10 am
It's so sad to see the people of America, a nation founded under God, would turn it's back on Him, and take Him out of everything. Do people honestly not see that Christianity is the ONLY religion being persecuted? That right there is proof enough that it's the true religion. We Christians need to stand for what is right, what is true, but that will never happen because most are too afraid of being criticized, persecuted, and even killed.
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 1:27 pm
*nods* I see your point. But there are some nations that don't want any religion whatsoever.
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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:25 pm
Sykke It's so sad to see the people of America, a nation founded under God, would turn it's back on Him, and take Him out of everything. Do people honestly not see that Christianity is the ONLY religion being persecuted? That right there is proof enough that it's the true religion. We Christians need to stand for what is right, what is true, but that will never happen because most are too afraid of being criticized, persecuted, and even killed. You know, ok obviously you don't but; that's not true. Christianity is not the only religion being persecuted. It is historically not the only religion that has been persecuted. If you like I can get the actual numbers broken down by religion for the 20th century. Personally I have all the proof I need that my faith is founded on the one true God, in my heart, where God, through no virtue of my own, has placed said faith. And that's enough for me.
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:06 am
Sapphina Sykke It's so sad to see the people of America, a nation founded under God, would turn it's back on Him, and take Him out of everything. Do people honestly not see that Christianity is the ONLY religion being persecuted? That right there is proof enough that it's the true religion. We Christians need to stand for what is right, what is true, but that will never happen because most are too afraid of being criticized, persecuted, and even killed. You know, ok obviously you don't but; that's not true. Christianity is not the only religion being persecuted. It is historically not the only religion that has been persecuted. If you like I can get the actual numbers broken down by religion for the 20th century. Personally I have all the proof I need that my faith is founded on the one true God, in my heart, where God, through no virtue of my own, has placed said faith. And that's enough for me. no dip, every religion is persecuted, but it's called exaggerative emphasis, Christianity is taken out of schools, yet I see these damn Muslims prayin to Allah all the time. It's wrong to mention God, but definitely alright to talk of Buddha. Christianity takes the worst of it. But maybe it should be you getting the history lesson. do you know about the Inquisition? Catholics killed many people just for not being Catholic, most of which were Christians. But how many times do you hear of Christians performing a mass murder on other religions? True there are other religions taking heat, but can you honestly not say that Christianity is taking the bulk?
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