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Abortion vs. Adoption
  It's wrong. Matt 10:13 says Jesus loves children, and that He values their little lives.
  It's okay if there are other reasons for it, like if it will kill the mom and kid. She can always have more, right?
  It's okay, because science says that that child is not alive until it has a heartbeat. There's not such thing as a human soul, anyway.
  I don't really care, what ever happens, happens.
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Comatose_Factor

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:16 pm


this is a very active subject now... I'm wondering what everyone thinks about it.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:23 pm


I can't make a vote because of this:

I HATE abortion.
I despise the idea of killing what could become a living baby.

BUT...
I believe more strongly in a women's right to choose what happens to her body. It disgusts me that men who vote 'pro life', because they never have to have a baby. I can't believe that men have the gaul to think that they can tell women what they can or can't do with her own body.

Kio Landera
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Comatose_Factor

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:33 pm


I got my verses mixed up. Sorry about that guys.

Matthew 18:2-6

2He called a little child and had him stand among them. 3And he said: "I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. 4Therefore, whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

5"And whoever welcomes a little child like this in my name welcomes me. 6But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 6:59 pm


true about the forcing women wat to do with there bodies however fornication is a sin and if people wouldn't do that in the first place this wouldn't be an issue i say if you cant do the time dont do the crime right?

styledcliff


Comatose_Factor

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:31 pm


That's just it though. It's not their body. It's the child's, who belongs to God.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:37 pm


true and the thing that gets me is its not okay to beat your animal not saying i do cause i dont but its okay to kill a baby wats wrong with this country im against abortion cause your killing a baby that could have a chance to serve God and be a great witness for him

styledcliff


inuyasha cutiepie

PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:02 am


Abortion is just completelywrong. Whether people believe it or not, the unborn child is an actual living being. If it wasn't a living being, then, the woman wouldn't feel it moving inside her womb. Tell me this, do see or have you heard of animals aborting their unborn babies? I believe that women who abort their unborn babies are only thinking of themselves. They don't want to be tied down taking care of another human being. They are more concerned about their career or themselves. On the bright side, all those that have been aborted have gone to heaven. We will see those who have been aborted. One day those women who have had abortions will see those they have aborted.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:06 am


First of all, animals cannot abort their babies because they do not have the technology or knowledge of how.

If a fetus inside of a woman is considered a living thing, then do you consider someone who is a vegetable alive? Life is more than just the simple act of moving, breathing, and squirming.

Have you thought about the women who get abortions if they are concerned for their well being. If a birth will kill the mother, then how do you tell her "Sorry Ms. Smith, we just can't abort your baby. I mean, both of you are alive and, well, we'd rather that the baby makes it"?

Do you believe that if a woman is assaulted and raped, she has to take care of that rape baby for the rest of her life?

A young girl should not have to live with the eternal mistake of having a child.



What I would hope the mother would do, and what I hope everyone else here hopes she would do, would be to have the child, but give it to a family that cannot have a baby. Like Juno.

Kio Landera
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Comatose_Factor

PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:42 pm


Yes, life is more than talking, breathing, and squirming. As for vegetated people, there are ways of communicating, even for them. just because someone cannot move or talk, does not mean other humans have the right to say whether they live or die. God knows their thoughts, their souls.

As for rape babies, no child is EVER a mistake.

Yes, adoption is a good option.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:25 pm


There is a difference between a girl who blantantly goes out to get pregnant than a girl who is raped. The Bible states that fornication, which is sex before you are married and adultry, which is having sex with another person other than your spouse is completely wrong. In fact, adultry is one of the Ten Commandents. Every person has a soul whether they are alive and walking this earth or in the womb of a woman.

When a girl gets raped or even a woman who finds out that there complications could arise by being pregnant, is a hard one to call as far as abortion. What get me is those girls who go out and have a one night fling not expecting to get pregnant, end up getting pregnant. Those are the ones that I am mainly talking about. Or even a woman who is married and to into herself and career.

Back in the older days, a woman never aborted their baby. They gave birth to the baby and then gave it up for adoption. I would much rather see woman do that than abort their baby. But like I said before, woman today are too much into themselves and care only about themselves and not others. In fact, that's the way most people are today anyways. "What's in it for me?"

All I can say is, one day everyone will stand before God and give an answer of what they have done whether it is good or bad.

inuyasha cutiepie


Kio Landera
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:25 pm


I didn't mean a rape baby is a mistake.

I meant that if a teenage girl does something stupid like having unprotected sex, she should not have to live with the repercussions of that mistake. Once they are an adult it is a different matter, but there is a reason we don't send minors to prison or give them the death penalty.

I also don't like the idea of having to have the child if a women is promiscuous. How do you tell a child when its older "Sorry Timmy, you don't have a mommy and a daddy and you've had to live in an orphanage because your mom just had you and dropped you off here."

And I do not believe God will punish us for our own natural born instinct for self preservation.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:13 am


Are you a female? Do you what repercussions can come by making one mistake? Nowadays, young girls don't care about their bodies. They don't keep themselves pure for that one perfect mate that was prepared for them before they were even born. Would you like to get married to someone who has been used? It is like putting on a torn dirty piece of clothing.

As far as those that go to orphanages, they do get adopted. Sometimes the girl keeps her name a secret and it is hard for that child to find their real mother. It's not only the girls fault but it's also the guys fault as well. They both are at fault. I have seen girls lead guys on and visa versa.

God did tell us to be fruitful and mulitply. It is also put in us to know when we do something wrong. One day, God will punish all those that have not accepted His Son as their Savior paying for their sins. Their punishment will be an everlasting eternal separation from God which means all eternity in hell. The Bible does state that fornication and adultry are sins. Whether you believe it or not is entirely up to you. One day you will see that what I am saying is the truth.

inuyasha cutiepie


Comatose_Factor

PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:29 am


*nods* I agree with IC.

So, what happens when little girls get raped? Their little bodies can't handle pregnancy, both them and the child would die. There are cases where both the child and mother die. But, since the mother was a child, does that mean the parents can have the unborn child aborted?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 2:06 pm


Comatose, that is a hard one to answer. I know abortion is a really touchy subject with most girls. All I know is that it is wrong but I believe that there would be occasions in terms of medical reasons where it should be done. the real argument is that people who are for abortion consider the unborn baby not a living creature. It is in fact a living creature. The unborn baby even though it has not be born and is physically living to where people can see it doesn't mean that it isn't alive. As the baby grows inside the woman's womb, it does move, it does breathe, etc. That really is the whole argument about abortion.

inuyasha cutiepie


Comatose_Factor

PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:30 pm


*nods* I know that was a hard question to answer. But those things have happened. They still do today.
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