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 Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:49 pm
This is sort of my first topic in this guild, but I felt a need to discuss this^^
Interesting topic name, I know... Considering that I am one of the many "American kids" I know what it's like... Modern entertainment is slowly poisoning our minds and turning our hearts away from Christ. Giving us false ideas of what love is, and even people being ruder to eachother. Yesterday in Sunday school, the kids in my class were cursing and making fun of the kids who actually wanted to learn... I'm usually quiet so they didn't make fun of me, but it really baffled me that people would actually behave this way. Apparently being a religious Christian is "not cool". According to some older people I know, youth in the past was a bit more "civilized", and I'm guessing that there were a lot less athiests-.-' What do you guys think
*sorry for any gramatical/spelling errors*
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:26 pm
Well, I don't think that modern entertainment is "poisoning our minds". If you're saying that things that contain mature themes or content is poisoning our minds, I must disagree and remind you that some of the most amazing films ever made have been rated R: The Godfather, Brokeback Mountain, No Country for Old Men etc etc. The proper approach to movie's like these can increase our understanding and appreciation for things like the ties of family and faith, different paths love can lead us, or more glimpses into the human mind of morality and integrity. Such things can inspire great things in us. I am a young person too, I'm fifteen. I'm glad to have someone in my own age group here^.^
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:11 pm
I very strongly disagree. Movies like the ones you mentioned, inspire 'great' things that stem from evil. And it addresses many things this world considers 'great' as evil in the Bible.
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:30 pm
Yeah, some people pick up some pretty bad habits from watching R rated movies. like after somebody watches beerfest they aren't exactly going to become more Christian, no offense or anything! well, ok i do watch a lot of anime, but i try not to pick up any bad habits from it sweatdrop
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:59 pm
Yes, I admit that some bad things can be picked up, but it depends on the individual. And I believe it all has to do with a point of view. Now: I'm not a biblical person, meaning that I do not believe that the entire bible is the exact word of God. I believe the bible is meant to be mainly writings to give us insight into God himself, so i don't think the Bible is this super guide book or rule book.
Now, I'm sure that some people here see a movie like Brokeback mountain as, "A filthy, sinful depiction of sodomy and homosexuality, with no purpose than to weaken people's faith and subject them to sinful pleasures".
What I see it as is a deep story of hidden love that they cover up because of what their situation is. But it shows through and through that they love each other, without regard to gender. This is, in my opinion, a beautiful work of cinematic art.
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:10 am
There are a few things that I see with the youth of today that just completely blows my mind. There is so much "junk" out there that can warp anyone's thinking.
One thing that has happened is by taking prayer out of the public school system. School used to start with prayer and the pledge of alliegance. People are slowly taking God out of everything. First was prayer from school. Now they want to do away with the 10 commandments, take "In God we trust" off our money, take "one nation under God" out of our pledge. That is just totally wrong. This country was founded on God because of religious persecution.
TV has corrupted the minds of our youth as well. Some shows don't just come out and show and guy & girl really getting into sex but the lying undertones are there. Movies are the same way. I have to disagree with "Brokeback Mountain". God is very explicit in the Bible about homosexuality. He destroyed two cities because of it. It is one sin that is a complete abomination to Him. The Bible is the true inspired word of God.
There is a lot more that I can say but because of the blindness of some people it is not worth saying. People see and hear what they only want to see and hear.
All I can say is that standards and morals now a days are completely excluded. People don't care. This saying back from the 70's sums it all up,
"If it feels good, do it".
One day, everyone will stand before God, either as their Savior or their Judge. When that day comes, then everyone will know what God intended for them.
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:41 pm
God did not destroy Sodom and Gomorrah because its inhabitants were gay. He destroyed the cities because they were cruel and wicked and sinned for the simple reason of opposing God. They wanted to oppose God, and did not know love, only lust. They only knew lust, not love, and all their sins were done for the sole purpose of offending God.
Homosexuality is not a sin on its own. Promiscuity and other sexual sins are not reserved to gays or straights.
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:10 pm
You know, I find it interesting that people are always bashing the youth. Yet when I look to people older than me and even, to some extent people the same age as me in the church--I see that there are just as many problems in that direction as well.
I don't see many kids using the language of bigotry like adults do, especially when using labels like 'liberal'. As if God didn't send Jesus for everyone. As if 'liberal's' never have any ideas worth having or listening to.
I see adults and religious leaders demonizing people because of their political views. I see adults and religious leaders using guilt by association to assassinate someone's character.
Is that Godly? Is their god so weak that he has to rely upon lies and character assassination to get his work done? Who do they have faith in? What is the message that the lost are getting about God from actions like this?
Is it any wonder, then, that the youth is confused?
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:15 pm
Kio Landera God did not destroy Sodom and Gomorrah because its inhabitants were gay. He destroyed the cities because they were cruel and wicked and sinned for the simple reason of opposing God. They wanted to oppose God, and did not know love, only lust. They only knew lust, not love, and all their sins were done for the sole purpose of offending God. Homosexuality is not a sin on its own. Promiscuity and other sexual sins are not reserved to gays or straights. You freely admit that you don't read the Bible, yet you think nothing of telling us what it says. Read for yourself: Genesis 19 The Lord Destroys Sodom and Gomorrah 1 The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening. Lot was sitting near the gate of the city. When Lot saw them, he got up to meet them. He bowed down with his face to the ground. 2 "My lords," he said, "please come to my house. You can wash your feet and spend the night here. Then you can go on your way early in the morning." "No," they answered. "We'll spend the night in the street." 3 But Lot wouldn't give up. So they went with him and entered his house. He prepared a meal for them. He baked bread without using yeast. And they ate. 4 Before Lot and his guests had gone to bed, all of the men came from every part of the city of Sodom. Young and old men alike surrounded the house. 5 They called out to Lot. They said, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us. We want to have sex with them." 6 Lot went outside to meet them. He shut the door behind him. 7 He said, "No, my friends. Don't do such an evil thing. 8 Look, I have two daughters. No man has ever made love to them. I'll bring them out to you now. Then do to them what you want to. But don't do anything to these men. I've brought them inside so they can be safe." 9 "Get out of our way!" the men of Sodom replied. They said, "This fellow came here as an outsider. Now he wants to act like a judge! We'll treat you worse than them." They kept trying to force Lot to open the door. Then they moved forward to break it down. 10 But the men inside reached out and pulled Lot back into the house. They shut the door. 11 Then they made the men who were at the door of the house blind. They blinded young and old men alike. So the men couldn't find the door. 12 The two men said to Lot, "Do you have anyone else here? Do you have sons-in-law, sons or daughters? Does anyone else in the city belong to you? Get them out of here. 13 We are going to destroy this place. There has been a great cry to the Lord against the people of this city. So he has sent us to destroy it."
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:55 pm
Sapphina Kio Landera God did not destroy Sodom and Gomorrah because its inhabitants were gay. He destroyed the cities because they were cruel and wicked and sinned for the simple reason of opposing God. They wanted to oppose God, and did not know love, only lust. They only knew lust, not love, and all their sins were done for the sole purpose of offending God. Homosexuality is not a sin on its own. Promiscuity and other sexual sins are not reserved to gays or straights. You freely admit that you don't read the Bible, yet you think nothing of telling us what it says. Read for yourself: Genesis 19 The Lord Destroys Sodom and Gomorrah 1 The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening. Lot was sitting near the gate of the city. When Lot saw them, he got up to meet them. He bowed down with his face to the ground. 2 "My lords," he said, "please come to my house. You can wash your feet and spend the night here. Then you can go on your way early in the morning." "No," they answered. "We'll spend the night in the street." 3 But Lot wouldn't give up. So they went with him and entered his house. He prepared a meal for them. He baked bread without using yeast. And they ate. 4 Before Lot and his guests had gone to bed, all of the men came from every part of the city of Sodom. Young and old men alike surrounded the house. 5 They called out to Lot. They said, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us. We want to have sex with them." 6 Lot went outside to meet them. He shut the door behind him. 7 He said, "No, my friends. Don't do such an evil thing. 8 Look, I have two daughters. No man has ever made love to them. I'll bring them out to you now. Then do to them what you want to. But don't do anything to these men. I've brought them inside so they can be safe." 9 "Get out of our way!" the men of Sodom replied. They said, "This fellow came here as an outsider. Now he wants to act like a judge! We'll treat you worse than them." They kept trying to force Lot to open the door. Then they moved forward to break it down. 10 But the men inside reached out and pulled Lot back into the house. They shut the door. 11 Then they made the men who were at the door of the house blind. They blinded young and old men alike. So the men couldn't find the door. 12 The two men said to Lot, "Do you have anyone else here? Do you have sons-in-law, sons or daughters? Does anyone else in the city belong to you? Get them out of here. 13 We are going to destroy this place. There has been a great cry to the Lord against the people of this city. So he has sent us to destroy it." First of all, do not assume I'm an idiot. Before posting what I did, I went and read Genesis chapter 19. And before you try to destroy my argument, make sure you get the ACTUAL TRANSLATION. It is not "Where are the men who came to you in the night? Bring them out to us. We want to have sex with them" The actual translation is "Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them." God destroyed the city because the inhabitants tried to harm the two angels Lot had taken in as guests. He offered up his daughters to the men instead. If the angels that God had sent were female and the men did the same, he would have destroyed the cities just the same.
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:35 pm
about the picking up bad habits thing earlier up there if you want to avoid picking them up i have one simple solution dont watch those movies you might say easier said then done wat will i talk about with my friends and things like that i can say half of these good movies dont interest me i dont watch movies how ever i play vid games a lot sweatdrop but one reason the youth is going the way it is casue of the lack of disaplin(sp) these days i can tell you from experience im almost 20 but i went to my grandpas sunday school class as a guest you would be surprised a lot of older people are really very cool they can be very funny and interesting to listen to but the youth is living off of a saying that mother claimes to have been around since the 60's "if it feels good do it" in that case they lack respect for anyone but themselves
and again i will say homosexuality is a sin the bible calls people who practice that sodomites so yes it is a sin and i will leave it at that but yes i agree the youth in this country is getting worse and worse just like every day is getting worse and worse perhaps these are signs of the Lords return
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:14 am
As far as the other translation, in the KJV "Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them." the connotation (sp) is there.
Also, the Bible states this that a man should leave his father & mother and cleave unto his wife. It did not state cleave unto his husband or significant other. In the beginning, God did not create Adam and Adam2. He created Adam and Eve. Regardless, according to God, homosexuality is a sin and a sin that is an abomination to Him.
As far as the youth, it is more prevelant about how they act as far as being rude and have an "I don't care" attitude. Trust me, it is also that way for some adults. It all started back in the 60's when drugs and "free" sex was the in thing.
What happened to good old punishment? Back in those days, if you did not punish your children, you were looked down upon. There was none of the children suing their parents for spanking, etc. like there is today. Now take it, there are some parents that just go way to far and have abused that priviledge but because of those they have ruined it for others. The Bible does state that if we spare the rod, we spoil the child. I can see it everywhere I go.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:02 pm
I can only pray that your eyes will be opened to the truth of God's love and how gay love is not a sin or abomination. And because it says "Cleave unto his wife" and not "His husband", by your logic, anything that the bible does not say is a sin. So I can torture an animal because there's nothing against it. I am saying here that I did not look this up, but I have never seen or heard of anything in the bible that says anything against animal abuse.
Back to the youth thing. I don't care what time period in the twentieth century or now you are from. It is NEVER okay to strike a child as "punishment" for them to learn. That teaches the kids that when they are older, they can use physical abuse to show their anger.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:47 pm
Yes, there is a difference in spanking out of anger and spanking out of love. The spanking out of love is to show them what they are doing wrong and to teach them what is correct. The Bible clearly states that sparing the rod will spoil the child. Tell me this. If you are having a very nice pleasant dinner and a family comes in, sits by you and their children are very disruptive like yelling, getting up out of their seat and running around the table, throwing food etc. doesn't affect you? To me, it shows that their parents were not responsible enough to teach them manners and how to act in public. I see this on numerous occasions and to me it is very rude. Mind you, it's not the children's fault, it is the fault of the parents because when that child was very young they thought it was very cute and didn't correct them and show them the correct way.
As far as what you said about me opening my eyes to the truth. I know the truth. What you say will not offend me or even get me angry because in Psalms it says "Great peace have they which love thy law and nothing shall offend them". Yes, God is a God of love but yet He is a God of righteouse wrath. He has no problem throwing a person into hell because they have rejected what His Son, Jesus, did for them on the cross.
I will tell you this. When everything is said and done and you stand before God hopefully not as your judge, He will play back everything that you have done in your life whether good or bad for everyone to see. This day will even be played back and He will question you as to why you did not heed the truth.
It is so sad today that Satan has blinded the eyes of those that don't believe.
Also, I can tell by the way you replied to my post that you don't have any respect for your elders. That is also what is wrong with most today, young and old alike. They have no respect for others.
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:22 pm
I apologize that I was rude. I do, however, not believe in the traditional "respect your elders" idea. In my opinion, and in how I treat people, respect is something that is earned rather than required because of age. Now, not respecting someone does not mean I will be rude to them.
In terms of the spanking idea, I just do not believe that violence, even out of love, is right for punishments. A strike out of love and trying to teach the child is still a strike, and the child will always remember being beaten by their parents. As long as it is well thought out, a tongue lashing is apropriate to reprimand.
((I dont have time to finish this post but i shalll soon))
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