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 Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:36 pm
From http://www.myway.com. "LOS ANGELES (AP) - Hardcore fans of 30 Seconds to Mars aren't the only ones who want more of the band's music. Virgin Records has sued the group for $30 million, saying it has failed to deliver.
Virgin Records sued the band and front man Jared Leto in Los Angeles on Friday, claiming they refused to deliver three albums as required by its contract.
The band's last album, "A Beautiful Lie," was released in 2005.
A publicist for Leto, an actor who starred in the film "Requiem for a Dream" and the TV show "My So-Called Life," did not return a message Friday.
According to the lawsuit, the band "repudiated" a 1999 contract in July.
Despite the absence of a new album, the band's hit "From Yesterday" was deemed one of 2007's Top 10 "Hot Modern Rock Songs" by Billboard magazine."- I think that that is absolutely horrible for Virgin to do to Thirty, but then again, I think we can all agree that they should have had a new album out by now.
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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:22 am
stare damn YOUUU i was just about to post this too... but ANYWAY!
I think it is TOTALLY wrong what Virgin is doing.
Yes...there has been a LONG time since ABL but..these things take time... and besides..its all because Virgin wants a cut of the money they KNOW 30stm will make with a new CD.
I'm not saying i dont WANT new music like NOW but...i understand that like any respectable work of art...these things take time.
I hope Jared comes after them with a baseball bat. xd
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Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:55 pm
I think that it is totally wrong, too, but I am also trying to think logical about it. And of course, the [Echelon] and the fangirls are freaking out about this like ******** crazy. Let me repost a bulletin someone put out on Myspace " ----------------- Bulletin Message -----------------
From: [ Aderyn Dawn - Echelon ]
Date: Aug 16, 2008 6:33 PM
Reposted from [ German Echelon ]:
We want to give a quick statement to the rant people are taking part in against Virgin Records. This case of cheap propaganda might have a negative effect on the bands position in a possible trail. We can not imagine this would be your goal. Please refrain from posting banners and logos of this content and keep a cool head. This wont help the band in any way. The band has not broken up, don’t pay attention to such rumours, until you hear official word from 30SECONDSTOMARS.
Thank you for understanding and suport for the band
Provehtio in altum" I agree with this, as well, and I don't think anyone should do this. This isn't like trying to get Thirty to win the VMAs or anything. This is a real serious court case and the [Echelon] should sit back and let it play out. We just have to be hopeful, and support Jared and Shannon through this, but not do anything drastic about it. I also have another article on the matter, and Jared and Shannon may have something that they can get Virgin for. Who knows, this could be settled out of court or something else. Things like this do happen, but sometimes they are settled easily and unmessily. From http://eonline.com" Label Done Waiting for Jared Leto's 30 Seconds
Fri., Aug. 15, 2008 5:15 PM PDT by Natalie Finn
Jared Leto, Shannon Leto Chris Weeks / Getty Images
It's 30 Seconds to Mars. And about half that to file a lawsuit.
Jared Leto and his bandmate brother, Shannon, were sued Friday by Virgin Records America for failing to come through on a five-album deal the eyelinered duo and the now-defunct indie label, Immortal Records, inked with the plaintiff nine years ago.
While Leto used a couple of those years to appear in movies like Girl, Interrupted and American Psycho, his band eventually got the ball rolling with its 2002 self-titled debut.
The alt-rockers followed that up with 2005's A Beautiful Lie.
But since their sophomore effort, according to the lawsuit filed in Los Angeles Superior Court, 30 Seconds to Mars has remained three albums short of the promised land.
Virgin and parent company Capitol Music Group claim that the Letos opted out of their 1999 contract in July by citing a section of the California Labor Code which states that a contract cannot be enforced against an employee beyond seven years "from the commencement of service under it."
In order to invoke the loophole, employees involved in "the production of phonorecords" must also give written notice that it won't be providing its services in the future.
And 30 Seconds to Mars may very well have laid it all out in writing, but the labor code also states that, in such a case, an employer is entitled to recover damages for breach of contract, which is exactly what Virgin and Capitol are looking to do, to the tune of more than $30 million.
A rep for the band tells TMZ, however, that it's 30 Seconds to Mars that is getting the short end of the stick—the trio, which also includes Tomo Milicevic, has sold more than 2 million albums and has not been paid accordingly.
Meanwhile, though the guys haven't been putting out any new music lately, they sure are stretching their A Beautiful Lie success as far as it will go.
They issued a deluxe edition of the album in 2006 and rereleased it again last year with a different set of bonus material, hoping to capitalize on the good will picked up on a European club tour. A short-film music video for the album's title track premiered in January on the band's MySpace site as well." - All we have to do is wait together. Our boys and the [Echelon] have overcome a lot together. We just have to be supportive in the right ways. PROVEHITO IN ALTUM
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:37 am
i agree with the german echelon...yea this is all basically BS but....its not our fight.
just hang back and see what happens.
i hope the band fights it...or maybe just drop the label and do it all themselves...they have a strong enough fanbase to do it. biggrin
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:26 pm
Go ahead and kill me for what I am about to say.
It's Jared's fault.
He was way in over his head.
He thinks he can:
1. Save the world.
2.Work on like 3 movies.
3. And work on an album at the same friggin time.
Jared is only one person and he needs to take a break. He's only human.
He's not a princess if he thinks of himself as a God.
Dumba**
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:03 pm
Shanimal Go ahead and kill me for what I am about to say.
It's Jared's fault.
He was way in over his head.
He thinks he can:
1. Save the world.
2.Work on like 3 movies.
3. And work on an album at the same friggin time.
Jared is only one person and he needs to take a break. He's only human.
He's not a princess if he thinks of himself as a God.
Dumba** I absolutely agree. He just takes on too much and thinks that he can pull it off. He does need a break and I think the band does, too. They've been touring for three years almost non-stop. Jared just needs to ******** cool it and realize that he's not proving a ******** thing. I mean, I feel sorry for them and everything, and I'm going to support them through this, but I can't help but be a little in between on this one. It's really Jared's fault and he should take the flack for it. Meanwhile, this story was in my city's paper! I was like, "******** wow."
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Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:36 pm
Well, we all just recieved a letter from Jared himself. From http://myspace.com A LETTER FROM THE FRONT: 30 SECONDS TO MARS / EMI (THE LAWSUIT)
To our Friends and Fans,
Despite rumors to the contrary, 30 Seconds to Mars is NOT calling it quits. We are incredibly happy, healthy and very much together here, in Los Angeles, recording our new record. Besides this ridiculously overblown lawsuit (courtesy of Virgin/EMI), we are having one of the most inspiring, wonderful and exciting times that we've experienced to date. (More on that later...)
Beyond this distraction, we are so incredibly grateful to all of you around the world that have supported us so passionately. We would never consider stopping this just yet. These past few phenomenal years have been beyond imaginable and we owe every single bit of it to you. Thank you all for that!
So, as you may have heard we are being sued by our former record company for the ridiculously oversized, totally unrealistic and pretty silly (but slightly clever) sum of $30,000,000. Insane? Yea that's what we said too.
A little history...
We had been signed to our record contract for 9 years. Basically, under California law, where we live and signed our deal, one cannot be bound to a contract for more than 7 years. This is widely known by all the record companies and has been for years. In fact, so aware of it are they that they desperately try to make deals outside of California whenever possible. It is a law that protects people from lengthy, unfair, career-spanning contracts. This law also gave us the legal right to explore other possible opportunities.
Yes we have been sued by EMI. But NOT for failing to deliver music or for 'quitting'. We have been sued by the corporation quite simply because roughly 45 days ago we exercised our legal right to terminate our old, out of date contract, which, according to the law is null and void.
We terminated for a number of reasons, which we won't go into here (we'd rather not air any dirty laundry) but basically our representatives could not get EMI to agree to make a fair and reasonable deal.
A few things to note...
If you think the fact that we have sold in excess of 2 million records and have never been paid a penny is pretty unbelievable, well, so do we. And the fact that EMI informed us that not only aren't they going to pay us AT ALL but that we are still 1.4 million dollars in debt to them is even crazier. That the next record we make will be used to pay off that old supposed debt just makes you start wondering what is going on. Shouldn't a record company be able to turn a profit from selling that many records? Or, at the very least, break even? We think so.
That, and other issues, like the new regime at EMI firing most of the people we know and love, wanting to place advertisements on our website, EMI owning 100 percent of the masters of our record...forever, and basically having a revolving door of regimes at the company made it easy to not want to continue as is.
As the result of this takeover - and the firing of over 2000 employees - we have lost many of the people that were near and dear to us at Virgin/EMI and crucial to the success of 30 Seconds to Mars. A few of the great ones are still there, but it is hardly the same company we have known. After more than 5 regime changes in 9 years you'd think we would be used to the inconsistency, but the team that took the journey together for A Beautiful Lie was a very very special group of people and it's a huge loss that so many of them are gone. (Quick fact: There is not a single employee at Virgin Records who was working at the company when we signed.)
FYI Virgin/EMI was not required to make this lawsuit public or to list such an egregiously and stupendously large amount of mullah. In fact, they were not required to set any price even close to this. We did not want to take this public, but we felt it best to explain our point of view to you, our
friends and fans, in hope that you can better understand our point of view.
We would always do our best to avoid a fight, but sometimes it's important to stand up for what you believe in. We hope that by doing what's right we can help to change things for the better, for ourselves and possibly others.
P.S. We will always remain grateful to the people at Virgin/EMI who were so integral to our success. And we hope that, above all, we can find a resolution to this in as civil and kind a way as possible.
There are certainly more important things out there in the world to spend time and energy on.
To be continued...
Jared Leto
30 Seconds to Mars- Wow.
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:56 pm
Honestly, it's both sides fault
One: I love Jared and everything, but he diddly-daddle too much
they're been signed for 9 years, but have only been able to come up with TWO ALBUMS?
Incredious!
Now for the record company:It's the lwa in California to only be signed for what 7 years?
Their fault for not terminating or trying to extended the contract
Either way, let's just hope for the best
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:54 pm
All I gotta say is...
NICELY DONEEE!!!
A million for every number until it reaches 30.
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 4:12 pm
***UPDATE 5/1/2009*** So here we are, after almost a year at war, and the time has come. The time to make peace, to move ahead, and to begin again. We are finally and thankfully at a place where we are excited and relieved to put behind us one of the most challenging battles of our entire careers. For almost a year now we have been in Los Angeles, California, putting our hearts, hopes, and dreams into making a record that means absolutely everything to us. In addition to this incredible and creative adventure, we have had the added challenge of carrying the rather heavy burden of a 30 million dollar lawsuit filed against us by EMI records. Not the most ideal of conditions to make a record under but an integral part of our story nonetheless. We are now nearly finished with our new record and have found ourselves in a place ready to accept an end to the arduous conflict with our former label. There are many reasons that have contributed to this decision but overal l the willingness and enthusiasm by EMI to address our major concerns and issues, the opportunity to return to work with a team so committed and passionate about Thirty Seconds to Mars, and the company's dedication to changing the status quo of the business of recorded music made this choice possible. We have decided it best for the music, for the fans, and for Thirty Seconds to Mars to accept a resolution with EMI. Throughout, we always looked for opportunities to make peace, and stayed open to compromise and resolution. But not at any cost. We were prepared to continue down this path as long as we needed to. This was a fight we believed in wholeheartedly. A fight about art. A fight about truth. A fight about fairness. And a fight about freedom. This was the first time we had to defend ourselves in litigation and hopefully our last. It was never for a single moment something we wanted, something we enjoyed, or something we treated lightly. A 30 million dollar lawsuit is serious business and we always respected the trepidatious path we were walking down. But we knew this was an important and worthy fight, and unfortunately unavoidable. In case anyone is wondering, litigation is not fun. At all. My suggestion; avoid it at all costs. We tried. And tried, and tried again. Unfortunately, we eventually arrived at a place where it was impossible to continue working with EMI and necessary to terminate our contract. Citing a California labor law that protects the individual against unfair contractual obligations we gave notice to EMI of our intention. (http://thirtysecondstomars.echoconnect.com/go/?O_MTk&TR=YzQ4OTUyLDQ1MywyMCxjMA==#Career) A little back story. All of this started once we had finally, and thankfully, achieved some success around the world, only to learn that although we had sold millions of records we would never see a single solitary penny. On top of that, we were then told that we were also millions of dollars in debt. As you can imagine, that was more than confusing so we began to educate ourselves and started to discover what a strange situation we were in. For more of the reasons we went to war in the first place, here's a link to the previous letter I wrote addressing it all. http://thirtysecondstomars.echoconnect.com/go/?O_MTg&TR=YzQ4OTUyLDQ1MywyMCxjMA==Over the past eight months, there was plenty of internal debate about our future, about how far to take this fight, about what is important to us as artists, as individuals, as a band. About whether to put our new album out through a traditional record company or to experiment and break new ground. Many feel that the system now is antiquated and that with the help of new technologies and available platforms the conventional method is quickly on its way out. Others feel no one does it better than the experienced companies that have serviced most of us with the majority of music we love. It's a great and endless debate. We are in the death throws of one system and the birth of another, which is as exciting at times as it can be painful. After carefully considering all of our options, what would be gained, what could be potentially lost, we ultimately decided that reuniting with EMI/Virgin would be the absolute best route for the music and that no matter what, sharing this latest creative adventure with you all in the most timely manner possible is the most important part of any of it. In the future, whether there are record companies or not, whether you put your music out only through the internet or sell it from an ice cream truck, you still need the help of individuals. And at the end of it all the biggest reaso n for us to reunite with EMI is exactly that. The people. It isn't for business or finance or contracts or the end of lawsuits. It is for the chance to rejoin the people who remain, who have been a part of our phenomenal journey throughout, and for the limitless possibilities of those wonderful new individuals who will be helping us along this new path. We are more than happy that this has all come to a close and we can begin to put it behind us. It's not only a good thing, it may even be great. We always left the door open for resolution and peace throughout this process, and we are thankful it did not fall on deaf ears. We look forward to a new beginning with EMI, and to sharing our new music with you in the very near future. We will never forget the unrelenting support from all our friends, family and fans around the world. A very wise man once said "We make war that we may live in peace." And I suppose sometimes we m ust fight in order to be free. With love Jared Leto
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