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 Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:03 am
Sadly, not 'put down' like a sick animal, although I was very tempted!
Today on another site I am a part of I came across this comment
"I really pity people who don't have children. Until you have one, you don't know what you might have missed out on."
Oh you can imagine the fun I had smile
It went something like this (bearing in mind I was trying to be polite!)
"Oh please! I never want children and have never for a moment envisaged that they might enrich my life in some way. I'm extremely happy with my lifestyle and it is completely incompatible with having a baby. I do not feel that I am missing out on anything, except for shi**y nappies, milky vomit, snot and vacant expressions that parents take to mean all sorts of things.
Do you know who I really pity? People who have children expecting them to be bundles of joy and then find out that a) they are extremely hard work b) they spend more time leaking fluid from various orifices than being 'cute' and c) that the realities of parenthood are nothing like they imagines. Also people who actually hate parenthood but who cannot admit it because parenthood is supposed to be this glorious, wonderful experience and anyone who disagrees is looked down upon by people like you."
Any further comments for this total idiot?
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:13 am
Point out the generic equatiton of this idiots argument. I really Pity people who do not have X. Until you have you do not know what you have missed out on.Also remind her that her obvious hatred of the job of being a parent is blinding her true judgment.
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:15 pm
"Oh yes, I am just miserable about spending all this money I worked for on me and what I want instead of having to use it for Jr's new braces or Suzzy's new school supplies."
End quote. Lol.
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:30 am
xd Where did you find that one? I am going to remember that one.
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:32 pm
XenoReiji Point out the generic equatiton of this idiots argument. I really Pity people who do not have X. Until you have you do not know what you have missed out on.Also remind her that her obvious hatred of the job of being a parent is blinding her true judgment. How I've missed your comments liket hat. =) It's like pitying someone that's never had kidney stones. Until you have them you don't know what you've missed out on. surprised
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:54 pm
Since the person wasn't being as rude as many people I've seen who make similar comments, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt of actually just being ignorant and never having thought to consider otherwise (and on the bright side, that means they may be open to changing their silly belief with some of the things we can point out to them. O; ) I realize there are some things you can't know what it is like until you've actually experienced it, but those are things that involve something like the first time you have a unique sensory experience (like how explaining color to a totally color blind person who has always been that way is pretty much freaking impossible) -- but not something which is a combination of potential sensations you've already had. That's basically arguing nobody can ever imagine what anything would be like until they've actually been there and experienced that specific thing. "You can't know what playing soccer is like until you've done it!" "You can't know if you'll like carrot cake before you've tried it!" "You have to read that whole book before you can say whether like it or not!" "You can't know until you've lived in X town if it would suit you or not, and not until you've lived there for years! If you decide you don't like it, you should try another street in the town is all, you probably just got a bad one is all!" This kind of assertion that direct experience is the only way to judge something is quite the attack on people's conceptual faculty is apparent if you apply the belief behind this kind of claim consistently, trying to deny that we could know ourselves and what is good for us and from existing information we can get already, project on if it would be right for us or not. I agree with Xeno's formulation post in showing how absurd such claims are. I'm just not as succinct in my arguments. xp 
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:42 am
OOO OOO ME NEXT ME NEXT!!!! whee ... ummm You can't know if war is good or bad till you have fought one xp
But in my book most ignorant people will never learn, hence why they are ignorant. After all it takes one of two things to become that ignorant. Thing one, you have to live alone all of your life away from the rest of the world, it happens and these people might change. But if you are like 99% of the rest of the world. Ignorance comes for flat out just ignoring the rest of the world. And in order to do that you have to lie to yourself. Hence why ignorant people will just probably never learn.
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:41 pm
Ah, willing ignorance verses unwilling ignorance. I don't think I'd count "willing ignorance" as really being ignorance though -- it's more like a stew of evasion, denial, and self-deception because to intentionally avoid finding something out that thoroughly, you have to have gotten at least as far in as to know where something is in order to that greatly avoid it coming into contact with your brain and know it is something you don't want to know (and by the time they've gotten this far, probably they should be far enough already to know they're wrong and now just are hard at work refusing to admit it in the same manner and maturity of a toddler covering their eyes thinks they can ignore the existence of something and make it go away or cease to exist.) I was figuring with how we're a minority as CFers, maybe it is possible that person had just never come across one of us to actually hear our side before and though at first they had incorrect assumptions and acted with an immediate stupid reflex, given a little time to settle down and consider, maybe then they'd see where their assumptions were pumped full of B.S. Judging by sheer numbers odds are on most cases we come across not being like that, especially not on the internet, but I figured level of rudeness often is causally related to how much of their reaction is related to denial, evasion, and self-deception. *shrugs*
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:50 am
While I can agree, some people probably have not ever met some of us, it is hard to believe that these individuals could not see the reasons why we would not want to have kids on their own, while raising their own. But then again I am assuming that people are open-minded and observant
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:14 pm
Some of you might remember that my youngest sibling is now 12... The age difference is big enough that people think he's mine... I actually had to do all the changing and feeding and entertaining..
Do I love my brother... Yes... Do I want spawn of my own... No.
That person is nuts.
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:10 am
xd you should play the fact that people think he is yours up.... uhh... I forget how old are you again... xp I could give you some really dark material if you like.
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:34 am
Nice biggrin
Too many people don't realize that a kid isn't a litte ball of "cute" you can leave to fend for itself. (I dont' even think they're cute at all)
It's a screaming, messy nightmare.
If you just want cute get a cat, though one still requires work. I say most of these "hopeful parents" should just buy a plush kitty. All the (actual) cute and none of the work. Maybe support gaia by buying a giant kiki XD
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:48 am
tenthdivisioncaptain Nice biggrin Too many people don't realize that a kid isn't a litte ball of "cute" you can leave to fend for itself. (I dont' even think they're cute at all) It's a screaming, messy nightmare. If you just want cute get a cat, though one still requires work. I say most of these "hopeful parents" should just buy a plush kitty. All the (actual) cute and none of the work. Maybe support gaia by buying a giant kiki XD Yes kitties are indeed balls of cute. Who won't die if you leave them alone for a few days. Oh keep in mind you can be snuggley with kitties and not have to worry about them dying xp .
What is this about Giant KiKis? O.o?
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:39 pm
Lol, Gaia has large stuffed animals that look like kiki and coco. They sell for a whopping $300 a piece though. Still though, that is SOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo much cheaper than a kid.
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:59 am
eek I just got a $327 state tax refund..... then again I need funds for anime cons. OH THE TEMPTATION!!!!
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