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The Wyre

PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:26 pm


It is a foremost thought of mine that tolerance should not be practiced in Islam.

I was listening to the khutbar earlier today, and the speaker was saying that Muslims as a whole should learn to tolerate other cultures and races.

I completely disagree.

I want your opinions on this as well.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:00 pm


I agree with the statement. If you disagree, are you trying to say that we should be bad towards them?

Even our prophet(peace be upon him) had tolerated with the non-Muslims and such.
And if we do not show tolerance, we are showing bad examples for the non-Muslims. This will make them think bad of our religion and thus, preventing them to want to learn more of Islam.

LoGa Knight


The Wyre

PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:36 pm


But the practice of tolerance itself is skewed. Being tolerant of someone or something means that you believe that you are above them somehow. Instead of being tolerant of any being on earth, why can't we practice being accepting?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:50 pm


So,you are saying that we should not be tolerent to them and let the fire in their hearts burn and finally, eat them up along with us?

By tolerence, how do you view it?

LoGa Knight


The Wyre

PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:30 pm


You missed my point entirely. The only thing I'm trying to verbalize is that Muslims should stop looking down on other religions as "sinners" or other races that are part of the Muslim faith. Our religion is the correct one, but that does not mean we should berate one another based on faith. What I'm saying is, judge them by the conduct of their hearts rather than what religion they claim to belong to or the color of their skin and to start accepting one another as human beings who are equal.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:11 pm


[.Flammable.]
You missed my point entirely. The only thing I'm trying to verbalize is that Muslims should stop looking down on other religions as "sinners" or other races that are part of the Muslim faith. Our religion is the correct one, but that does not mean we should berate one another based on faith. What I'm saying is, judge them by the conduct of their hearts rather than what religion they claim to belong to or the color of their skin and to start accepting one another as human beings who are equal.


By that, I agree with you. But if we are talking about the after life, I disagree.

LoGa Knight


Pheonixia
Crew

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:34 pm


[.Flammable.]
You missed my point entirely. The only thing I'm trying to verbalize is that Muslims should stop looking down on other religions as "sinners" or other races that are part of the Muslim faith. Our religion is the correct one, but that does not mean we should berate one another based on faith. What I'm saying is, judge them by the conduct of their hearts rather than what religion they claim to belong to or the color of their skin and to start accepting one another as human beings who are equal.


I agree with what you are saying. Muslims should learn to show equality to members of other faiths.

If they care about humanity at all they should learn to be compassionate, and patient. If they care.....then they should try in a pleasing and responsible manner to convert the hearts and minds of the followers of other faiths.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:31 pm


Thank you Phoenixia. Islam is not only a religion of peace, but it is a religion of understanding. Muslims should not only seek out knowledge, but learn how to interact with the people they come in contact with.

The Wyre


LoGa Knight

PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:50 pm


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Thank you Phoenixia. Islam is not only a religion of peace, but it is a religion of understanding. Muslims should not only seek out knowledge, but learn how to interact with the people they come in contact with.


Hmm...your point changes quite fast. First you say that tolerance should not be practiced in Islam. Then you say that it should be practiced. Tolerance means the willingness to accept other people opinions and behavior even if you disagree with them. It's a good thing. Looking down on other people is another thing. Not tolerance. On Earth, we are all equal. Tolerance is a good thing. Not a bad thing. I have hardly seen anyone who agree with another person and looks down on them. In fact, if they look down on them, they won't even bother agreeing with them.

So, main thing is, tolerance should be practiced in Islam.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:55 am


my point of view is tolerance is not should be practised in Islam but rather Islam itself practise tolerance...since the era of Madinah.our prophet never put on discrimination towards other religions and races. Even the enemies

XeroRyn


The Wyre

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:33 am


Ya Allah, why do you feel the need to dissect my opinions and point out negativity?

Tolerate: the act of enduring.

When people tolerate, it is a mental act of putting themselves higher than another group of people. Again, what I am saying is, instead of trying to deal with these superiority complexes that some Muslims have, a lot of them think that they are better than others. The tolerance that I am trying to explain is what I have seen personally. In the masjid and elsewhere. I understand what you're trying to convey, but you're saying is that looking down on others and tolerating something are two different things, which IN THIS CASE they are not.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:22 am


[.Flammable.]
Ya Allah, why do you feel the need to dissect my opinions and point out negativity?

Tolerate: the act of enduring.

When people tolerate, it is a mental act of putting themselves higher than another group of people. Again, what I am saying is, instead of trying to deal with these superiority complexes that some Muslims have, a lot of them think that they are better than others. The tolerance that I am trying to explain is what I have seen personally. In the masjid and elsewhere. I understand what you're trying to convey, but you're saying is that looking down on others and tolerating something are two different things, which IN THIS CASE they are not.


What you are saying is riak. Not tolerance.And I agree with you fully in that case.

LoGa Knight

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