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Raven moonwalker

PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:02 pm


Hello all!
And welcome to the place of dreams… the place where magic grows in everyone, and where anything can manifest.
Before we jump head on into this subject, I would like to clear up my philosophy on dreaming, as it would certainly help me make more sense!

For one, I am personally against dream books. Mainly because I believe the symbols that everyone experiences within their dreams hold unique meanings for that person. I do believe that there are certain archetypes that ring true around the globe, such as beautiful white light, the feeling of love, the darkness of hate… and I’m pretty sure you’ll agree with a dream book on its meaning of someone stabbing you with a knife. But there are other things that may only confuse your interpretation of your dream. For me it’s usually animals. Now, a dream book would normally say Rats mean you have an enemy somewhere, or something is sabotaging you. However, I owned rats for 7 years, so my opinion of them is much more friendly. Same with spiders, and snakes, and bears, oh my!

The point, is that anyone can write their own dream book. I’m not against using one as a point of reference, but when it gets right down to it, I’m sure only YOU can find the meaning behind most of what you see and experience.

Secondly….
I tend to take dreams quite literally. This is how I dream, but that doesn’t mean it’s how other people dream. A lot of the time I see dreaming as a way of traveling to other worlds or into the astral plane… but that doesn’t mean I think EVERY dream is a journey to another realm.

Dreams are beautiful, immortal, healing, educational and magical. Anyone who’s interested in diving into their dreams and learning something new, whether it be as simple as learning how to sing a song you’ve never heard before, or as complicated as learning to shape shift in the dream world as well as the waking, then I open these doors to you and say come and sit down with me for a cup of peppermint tea.

~Sky~
PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:06 pm


Curriculum


Dreaming:
The basics of getting to know your dream world.
Learning what’s real and what’s not.
Manipulating the dream world.
Asking your dreams to tell you something.
Asking your dreams about the future. (Also known as oneiromancy)
Asking your dreams about the past.
Contacting spirit guides.
Understanding when spirit guides are contacting you.
Learning things by being them.
School in your dreams, what do you want to learn?
Manifesting things in the waking world by using your dreams. Also known as Dream Magick.
Having fun! Set up a night of entertainment while you sleep!

If you have a dream you’d like to share, then by all means do so! I want to know what you’ve learned from your dreams just as much as I want to share what I have.

Raven moonwalker


Raven moonwalker

PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:07 pm


Entrance exam for advanced dream craft:


Look at your hands. While you're dreaming of course.


This isn't something I came up with, it's from the Carlos Castaneda books, I have yet to find a book that is a more accurate portrayal of the dream world than "The Art of Dreaming."
This first step technique is not only fun, it shows an ability towards awarness and control.

Warning.
This little thing can sometimes be extremely disturbing, as your hands have a tendency to change, melt, or do something rather eerie. I suggest looking in short glances if you can until your hands mantain their shape.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:11 am


oh dear you have made a great effort ^^ I do enjoy your posts and hope that many people learn from ya ^^
oh and juust in case you aren't aware, I, keith, own all of the "firecat avis" ^^

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Raven moonwalker

PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:30 am


Aha, I thought mr. Amour Silver looked a lot like your Mabenogi guy >.<
That's a lot of people to keep track of.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:29 am


I... am too afraid to look at my hands! gonk The first and last time I dreamed I was watching my hands, I began cutting my fingertips with a scissor.. xp
I have a question though [yeah yeah I always have a doubt] I've noticed that I tend to have dreams ocurring in the same setting, but not always the same plot, if you know what I mean o.ô I would like to tell someone but that is just really weird xD

PS: Oh and! ...do you have any advice to well... have lucid dreams more often?
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Kah Hilzin-Ec


Raven moonwalker

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:23 pm


Yes... sometimes you do very strang and disturbing things to your hands. The first time I looked, my hands were actually folding in on themselves. The second time I manage to pass out in my dream fo half the night, and when I woke up I tried again! That's when I tried the quick glances, and after a while, my hands looked much more normal.
This is the easiest way to start having more frequent lucid dreams. If you want you could try looking at your feet, or pointing at something with your pinky finger and looking at it closely. Things like this really wake you up to your dream. Looking at your hands is just the easiest thing.

As for dreaming in the same place with a different plot, I call those dreamscapes. Little details will come and go, but for the most part the place stays the same. This is a good thing!
In the waking world you're in the same place all the time, but you're not repeating the same thing over and over again every day (Unless you have a really, really crappy job) it wouldn't be the waking world if every day you woke up you were a different person in a different place...

When you're dreaming in the same dreamscapes more often than not, it means your dreams are becoming more and more solid, and you're developing a familiar world to dream in. It's easier to have lucid dreams in these places.

Another trick for lucid dreams is lying in bed and picturing ONE place you would like to go, mainly a place you've been before. Start creating a story around this, and fantasize before you sleep. If you can get the pictures as clear as a dream, and you're not distracted while you're imagining all of this, then you will most likely have a very clear and vivid dream. Making it lucid will be much easier, but it still takes a certain amount of will.

My before sleep fantasy usually involves teleporting to my home in Michigan and bringing someone along with me accidently (this is always fun) or if I would like a very interesting dream. I will imagine myself shape shifting and walking the streets of my town as fox, wolf, or a Thai bird I was taught to shape shift into a few years ago in a dream.

Peppermint tea before bed is a big dream booster.

Have fun ^_^
PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:16 am


I was thinking of another method I made up [which I'll try to follow as soon as I have a free week] that I would free my desk from the chaotic mess it's been for 6 months and draw the dreamscape I imagined. Wee I though of "remodeling" the dream-mall to my liking XD Let the architect skills I'm suposed to have inherited flow~

PS: How about you? Have you been to an interesting dream lately? ;P

Kah Hilzin-Ec


Raven moonwalker

PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:22 pm


Well I wish you luck with your construction.
Sometimes I find that if I write out a dreamscape or draw it, it doesn't work anymore for me, it's that I've taken it out of my dreaming mind, and placed it into the waking world I think. But that's just me.

As far as dreams go, I had a very interesting one last week where I was an amnesiac. My memories only went back as far as 13, when I was adopted.

I lived on my own now, and spent most of my time in the ocean. I liked swimming in the evening when no one was around.
It was on one of these sunsets that I saw something drifting towards the shore. I swam to it, and found that it was a coffin tied to a piano and a trunk.

I swam to shore with it, where two reporters were waiting for it to hit land. Someone told me that it was the coffin of my lost grandfather. Which was wonderful news, because I might get some of my memories back. (even more facinating, because it was the night before my grandpa died) But I wasn't thinking about these things in the dream. I was only thinking about how much I wanted to make this a more interesting dream. So I changed it.
When you change a dream while you're dreaming, you have to be extremely vague, and rather blunt. You don't have to worry about rewriting the whole thing. All you need to do is intergect one small little plot twist, and the dream will restructure itself around you.

The piano was broken, and sunk down from the coffin. I dived after it, and picked at it's wooden keys. It was old, and felt familiar.

I came to shore. The reporters told me to leave, because this was now a police investigation, and I had no right to be there. They start going through the things in the trunk, and I feel offended and violated.
(here's where I change the dream.)

"But I'm not dead!" I yell.
The reporter man looks at me like I've gone crazy, "Of course not."
The dream was shifting slowly, and it was hard to get the new set of rules out of my mouth. I pointed to the coffin, "I'm not dead." there, engraved on the coffin, was my name. At first I was surprised to see it, but then I realized how the change was working. It's like being an actor, and suddenly, half way through the play you start to improv. It's takes a while for everyone to catch on, even you.

They still look at me like I've lost it.
Then I bring the name to their attention, "That's my name." and I knew that to be a fact, "But I'm not dead." And now the dream was mine, completely patched up, and it's only going to get more interesting from here. I can see the change go through them, and the original dream faded completly.
I could feel strange memories coming back.
I told them to stop going through my things. And then another strange thing just flew from my lips, "You could have disturbed the elixir of life."

"The elixir of what?"

Huh... I hadn't expected that. it had started out as a joke on my part. But then I had the strangest feeling that I was much, much older than 20. And another fact came to me.

"It's like the drink for imortality, but not really... it just lets you live as long as everyone else, but retain your youth. Or longer..." I had a feeling I was in my 80's... which is a strange feeling to have when you don't remember anything.

At that point, the woman reporter wanted to test me on some of the things that were in the trunk, that I hadn't seen yet. She wanted me to draw some emblem. Which I just guessed at, and managed to get right.
But the coffin was a warning, and someone was trying to kill me, which meant that someone knew more about me than I did. And I needed to get my memories back soon.
dream fades, I feel the hints of To Be Continued.

Before I wake. I get a glimpes of what the dream could have been before I changed it. I was reliving some of my grandpa's memories from World War II. They were pleasent memories, and I enjoyed feeling closer to him in this way.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:42 pm


oh V you allways seem to facinate me. I just wish I could have that brain of yours hooked up to a computer so I could talk to you always ^^ that sounded better in my head... I'll just have to settle for what we have. oh by the way I cast that spell with the white rose pettle found under the moonlight in the safe place thing. have you found a nice safe place to just be yet? it should have worked by now.

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Raven moonwalker

PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:49 am


Actually, it may have just kicked in today.
Or maybe I just realized it.

I found a wonderful place! But it's about 20 miles away from where I live.

The problem is finding a night place... I don't think I've found that yet.
I need to think...
I'll have to get back to you on that.
Thanks for the help though heart
PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:56 am


lol I cast it for a night place. actualy the spell itself is aimed to make you feel safe everywhere everytime in security that if something were to happen your luck would pull you through.

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Raven moonwalker

PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:48 pm


Than it's working against a lot of factors up here.
I'll try to absorb it more strongly though.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:07 pm


I would like to emphasize more the importance of fantasy before sleep.

In order to have a clear dream, with a clear purpose/story/vividness you need to first practice having your thoughts follow this partern while you are still awake.

Most of the time when you sit down to think, your thoughts are jumping from one subject or scene to the next. As you go about your day, this usually works out. But when you're trying to have clear dreams, these sorts of thoughts are going to leave you with more abstract visions... things you really have to weed through to find the importance of. And they're not nearly as enjoyable as a strong vivid dream, with a clear storyline.

It's sometimes easier to practice this before sleep when you're sitting up. Because that way you wont drift off to sleep as easily, and your body is in a more proper position to be comfortable in the fantasy. Sometimes I'll get dizzy if I'm on my side... or sometimes one side is better than the other for what I'm trying to see. Move around until you are most comfortable and you can get a clear picture in your head. You're basically trying to get a very clear and lucid daydream.

Depending on what you want to accomplish, or how you'd like to be entertained in your dreams, always start simple.
Create a story around something you'd like to do, see, experience, or learn. Or maybe an emotion you need to get out of your head, or a problem you have.

I'll use something you'd like to do as an example.
I'd like to go to Ireland.
Start with the first step of this.
A plane, or possibly a boat.
Don't let your thoughts flash foreward to where you're going. Make sure to always keep them where you are in the fantasy.
Arrive.
Give yourself a problem, because your mind likes things more realistic.
My luggage has been lost, and I'm only carrying $50 bucks with me. I need to find a place to stay the night, and some way to get money.
I might take a train to somewhere I don't know, only because it was the cheapest ticket... or maybe I stow away.
I meet a woman on the train who works with birds of prey, and I ask if I could work with her.
And ta-da!
I now have a rock solid foundation to work from, and my thoughts will carry on from there, at which point I will probably through in a hint of magic.

The easiest thing to visiualize, would probably be a favorite scene from a movie, T.V show, or book. You can see these things clearly, and it's good practice. Work from there.

Raven moonwalker


Amour Silver
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:39 pm


I had a wonderous dream today. it had love ladys and wonderful extremely super sexyfulness. not too perverted of one but it was in fact a dream that invoked much loving feeling
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