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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:00 pm


I was watching Avatar with my dad, who's a pretty big fan. We were watching Zuko's big dramatic speech to his dad in Day of Black Sun. I don't know it word-for-word, but a lot of it had to do with him realizing that even though the Fire Nation was trying to "spread its greatness," people actually hated them.

So my dad brings up an interesting idea:

What if the Fire Nation's ideology is based off of America?

No offense to Americans; I'm one myself. I'm not going to put my personal beliefs into this, and I don't know all of your opinions on the war in Iraq, but imperialism and such tends to get very similar criticism to what Zuko was saying to Ozai. After hearing Dad's theory, I got tingles at the parallel when I heard it again.

Now obviously this is vague at best, and America isn't trying to literally conquer the world, but what do you think? Is it possible that Mike and Bryan are trying to get a message out to the younger generation? Or is all of this way too complex for a kid's show?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:16 pm


yeah i can see the imperialism thing. america was/is a big culprit.
if M&B did do it on purpose, im sure it goes right over the youngins' heads. atleast us who are older catch stuff like tht. kids may not see the america connection, but they can tell, 'wow conquering the world is bad. not everyone wants to be this nation'

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:33 pm


I had the same idea, a while ago.

But if this is true, then which country is the Earth Kingdom supposed to be? The Water Tribes? The Air Nomads?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:44 pm


There might be a deeper meaning than we thought, but some of the stuff in the show is portrayed from real history. I heard the Fire Nation resembled the Japanese, the Water tribe are portrayed from the Inuits or the ekimos, or even both, and i'm not sure about the nomads, but pretty much obvious. Tell me if something was out of place or not, but that's what I heard.
But really, I think this stuff also comes from our history. biggrin

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:58 pm


I don't think it's really a shot at America, so much as denouncing imperialism and feelings of racial superiority. I'd say that fire nation would be closer to nazi's than anything else. They're trying to spread their own race, which they find superior, whle "cleansing" the world of any others that they find unworthy (i.e.- all of them)
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