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Guardian of Peace

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:48 pm


Okay well I have these 17 year old cousins. They are really nice, and they look awfully beautifully. They have cell phones and separate laptops. However, they wear jeans and shirts outside the house in a somewhat fashionably manner and prefer not to wear the shalwar kameez. They don't pray to God, they listen to music, talk to alot of boys when they shouldn't be, and all that basic non-Muslim stuff in America. They don't do most things that are haram like eating of pork or drinking of alcohol, but still, they need to quit the habits like I mentioned above. How can they be convinced? Sunday Schools aren't good around my area so yeah. They had started to curse words nowadays as well.

Note: MUSIC, talking to boys especially the older ones are haram. They are quite frank with boys

What can I do? They shouldn't horseplay like this. It really annoys me. Please advise me in a best positive manner.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:33 pm


ummm, I can't help you. I'm the typical american girl. I do all those things you just listed. Not the boys so much but I listen to alot of music. It helps drowned out my family argueing....sorry maybe someone else can give you a few idea's...?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:19 am


Assalamualaikum.

First step, pray that they are guided by Allah.
Second step, try to convince them to stop doing things as stated.(being with non-mahram men are haraam as well as guys being with non-mahram women.Music are not haraam unless they can rise lust or are satan worshiping. They must cover their aurat.Cussing are sinful)
Third step, report this to their parents.
Fourth step, tell them of the punishments Allah had made for people who disobey His orders.
Fifth step, ask them to marry or fast.
If none of them succeeds,please inform me.There's more ways.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:03 pm


Well ultimately the parents need to be more responsible here. Have they even tried to talk to their kids about this? You can do your best to explain to them what is right, but only the parents have the means to take control.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:36 am


LoGa Knight
Assalamualaikum.

First step, pray that they are guided by Allah.
Second step, try to convince them to stop doing things as stated.(being with non-mahram men are haraam as well as guys being with non-mahram women.Music are not haraam unless they can rise lust or are satan worshiping. They must cover their aurat.Cussing are sinful)
Third step, report this to their parents.
Fourth step, tell them of the punishments Allah had made for people who disobey His orders.
Fifth step, ask them to marry or fast.
If none of them succeeds,please inform me.There's more ways.


But is Music haram if you listen to these hardcore raps?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:40 am


I don't know, when they were 14 they didn't curse. but when I came back to the USA, they have been acting like 50 cent....

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:37 pm


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Assalamualaikum.

First step, pray that they are guided by Allah.
Second step, try to convince them to stop doing things as stated.(being with non-mahram men are haraam as well as guys being with non-mahram women.Music are not haraam unless they can rise lust or are satan worshiping. They must cover their aurat.Cussing are sinful)
Third step, report this to their parents.
Fourth step, tell them of the punishments Allah had made for people who disobey His orders.
Fifth step, ask them to marry or fast.
If none of them succeeds,please inform me.There's more ways.


But is Music haram if you listen to these hardcore raps?


Yes it would be. Well I am assuming based on the rap I have heard before, but I can't imagine it being anything decent.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:46 am


Maha the Wizard
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LoGa Knight
Assalamualaikum.

First step, pray that they are guided by Allah.
Second step, try to convince them to stop doing things as stated.(being with non-mahram men are haraam as well as guys being with non-mahram women.Music are not haraam unless they can rise lust or are satan worshiping. They must cover their aurat.Cussing are sinful)
Third step, report this to their parents.
Fourth step, tell them of the punishments Allah had made for people who disobey His orders.
Fifth step, ask them to marry or fast.
If none of them succeeds,please inform me.There's more ways.


But is Music haram if you listen to these hardcore raps?


Yes it would be. Well I am assuming based on the rap I have heard before, but I can't imagine it being anything decent.


Generally all music is haram. Especially songs about romance and love. Also, all music has instruments played and instruments are considered haram as well. The Prophet (Peace be upon him) has once said, "I was sent to destroy these musical instruments."

Generally if the song is good but no music is played behind, then its considered halal and in Allah's favour.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:15 pm


I would check about that soon.
Perhaps,music is haraam.Perhaps not.I will see to it about this problem.And accept the consequences.
Hmm,if so,does that mean that what the Raihan did are haraam, that is nasyid?Singing and praising Allah at the same time?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:17 pm


Oh yeah,it doesn't matter if the guys are older or younger.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:33 am


well for me i find music haram and nasheeds are not haram!!

they say if music diverts your minds from ALLAH of praise of HIM then yes it would be haram!!

but some times i like rock and pop songs, the only reason i like them is i find some songs religious "TO ME" and i remember ALLAH when i listen to them so i listen to them!!

does that mean i am doing wrong? confused
PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:37 am


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well for me i find music haram and nasheeds are not haram!!

they say if music diverts your minds from ALLAH of praise of HIM then yes it would be haram!!

but some times i like rock and pop songs, the only reason i like them is i find some songs religious "TO ME" and i remember ALLAH when i listen to them so i listen to them!!

does that mean i am doing wrong? confused

no, I don't think you're doing something wrong..and where in the qur'an does Allah (swt) say it's haram? surprised

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:40 am


Funny Yummy Cupcake
Okay well I have these 17 year old cousins. They are really nice, and they look awfully beautifully. They have cell phones and separate laptops. However, they wear jeans and shirts outside the house in a somewhat fashionably manner and prefer not to wear the shalwar kameez. They don't pray to God, they listen to music, talk to alot of boys when they shouldn't be, and all that basic non-Muslim stuff in America. They don't do most things that are haram like eating of pork or drinking of alcohol, but still, they need to quit the habits like I mentioned above. How can they be convinced? Sunday Schools aren't good around my area so yeah. They had started to curse words nowadays as well.

Note: MUSIC, talking to boys especially the older ones are haram. They are quite frank with boys

What can I do? They shouldn't horseplay like this. It really annoys me. Please advise me in a best positive manner.



for your question i really have no clue over what to say except if there parents care about this!!!

i guess there parents are what can make them straight over the path they should be!!
PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:06 am


_rainarai_
tassan
well for me i find music haram and nasheeds are not haram!!

they say if music diverts your minds from ALLAH of praise of HIM then yes it would be haram!!

but some times i like rock and pop songs, the only reason i like them is i find some songs religious "TO ME" and i remember ALLAH when i listen to them so i listen to them!!

does that mean i am doing wrong? confused

no, I don't think you're doing something wrong..and where in the qur'an does Allah (swt) say it's haram? surprised


Nowadays,almost every music is haraam.Nasyeed is not haraam though.Please check the videon"The end of music" in You tube.Or just go to "Is music haraam" section in this guild.Malika had posted a link there.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:59 am


LoGa Knight
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tassan
well for me i find music haram and nasheeds are not haram!!

they say if music diverts your minds from ALLAH of praise of HIM then yes it would be haram!!

but some times i like rock and pop songs, the only reason i like them is i find some songs religious "TO ME" and i remember ALLAH when i listen to them so i listen to them!!

does that mean i am doing wrong? confused

no, I don't think you're doing something wrong..and where in the qur'an does Allah (swt) say it's haram? surprised


Nowadays,almost every music is haraam.Nasyeed is not haraam though.Please check the videon"The end of music" in You tube.Or just go to "Is music haraam" section in this guild.Malika had posted a link there.



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