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 Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:57 am
Lately I've been very excited blaugh ......why?......because.......
1) 100 Years of Khilafat have passed by and I was alive to see the celebration (in 200 more years it is prophesied by our Messiah that the world will be held together under the banner of Islam (Ahmadiyyat)
2) In July our first ever mosque will have been built in Calgary, which will be the largest mosque in Canada, and will have the largest prayer hall in all of North America (can't wait)
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:50 am
Pheonixia Lately I've been very excited blaugh ......why?......because....... 1) 100 Years of Khilafat have passed by and I was alive to see the celebration (in 200 more years it is prophesied by our Messiah that the world will be held together under the banner of Islam (Ahmadiyyat) 2) In July our first ever mosque will have been built in Calgary, which will be the largest mosque in Canada, and will have the largest prayer hall in all of North America (can't wait) 3nodding Wow! rofl that's good! I'm happy too!
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:48 pm
um...explain to this unworthy one what this means sweatdrop and glad for you mosque being built.
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:14 pm
Takara_Ashley um...explain to this unworthy one what this means sweatdrop and glad for you mosque being built. Oh don't call yourself unworthy.....no one is unworthy. 100 years of Khilafat: 100 years ago the Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahamd (as) claimed to be the Promised Messiah that the world had been waiting for. For 100 years enemies of Ahmadiyyat (our denomination) have tried to suppress this message to the world and our faith through persecution. Though, because the hand of Allah is behind our Jama'at (denomination), even though we are being persecuted to the very extreme in some countries (last report: In Islamabad many Ahmadhi MEd. students have been kicked out of university for being Ahmadhi) our denomination is spreading very, very fast to the corners of the world, and by far the members of our denomination have the most combined faith in Islam. Now, 100 years later, after his claim Ahmadiyyat is still alive and growing, and right now the Promised Messiah's fifth successor is leading the Jama'at to greater heights.
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:10 pm
I hope you don't mind these random questions, because I have a somewhat limited of Ahmediyyah.
Who is "the Promised Messiah"'s fifth successor?
How is he leading you guys to greater heights?
What's the proof that Ahmediyyah is growing very fast to the corners of the world, and also where's the proof that you have the most combined faith in Islam?(Because that last thing is a very huge claim and hard to actually measure and prove.)
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:11 pm
Quote: I hope you don't mind these random questions, because I have a somewhat limited of Ahmediyyah. Why would I mind? I don't. By asking this you are allowing me to correct propaganda that has been spread against my Jama'at. Quote: Who is "the Promised Messiah"'s fifth successor?  The Promised Messiah (as): Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani (as) information 1rst Khalifa: Hadhrat Hakim Maulana Nur-ud-Din information 2nd Khalifa: Hadhrat Alhaj Mirza Bashir-ud-Din Mahmood Ahmad information 3rd Khalifa: Hadhrat Hafiz Mirza Nasir Ahmad information 4rth Khalifa: Hadhrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad information 5th Khalifa: Hadhrat Mirza Masroor Ahmad informationQuote: How is he leading you guys to greater heights? While the rest of the Muslims are not united, Ahmadhi's are united and are progressing very quickly because of the Khalifa's guidance and the continual sacrifices of the Ahmadhi people. While the rest of the rest of the Muslim denominations are fighting amongst each other, Ahmadhi's are creating new mosque's and propagating the message of Islam to the corner of the world. Our highest achievement yet is that the Ahmadhi's who have been persecuted for 100 years have built the largest mosque in North America. During the inauguration of this mosque (on July 4rth) even the Prime Minister of Canada and Opposition Leader made time to come to this event. Quote: What's the proof that Ahmediyyah is growing very fast to the corners of the world, 100 years ago Ahmadiyyat was started in the little town of Qadian, India. There were very few followers at the time, and this was the last denomination of Islam to be created. 100 years have passed and Ahmadiyyat has spread to more then 189 countries around the world. The Ahmadhi Jam'at is very organized and we have records on every Ahmadhi and also the new converts. This is how we know. Quote: and also where's the proof that you have the most combined faith in Islam?(Because that last thing is a very huge claim and hard to actually measure and prove.) You can see it in our eyes and during our events our passion for Islam is so great, that this is not seen in any other Jama'at of the world. The children of our members even have a huge amount of Passion. Watch this and you will see: Friday Sermon delivered in USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:18 pm
A mosque should be built for prayers and not for show. Do not decorate it too much as this is the sign of the end of the world.
And your signature is very...hmm...how to say it...making me feel uneasy...
Isa a.s is not dead. Guess I have to tell the story.
Mariam gave birth to Isa a.s when she was 12 after the seed had been put into her. As soon as Isa was born, he told his mother to eat the kurma"dates from the tree she was resting onas she was hungry".
Later on in the future, a kid bumped on Isa a.s. Isa told him about an apple his mother was hiding for him. The kid ran back home, asking his mother where she put the apple. The mother asked the kid back how did he know that she was hiding an apple. The kid told his mother Isa told him. So, she thought he was a witch/wizard or w/e.
Then in the middle of a field, Isa claimed he brought Allah's religion. Everyone said that he was lying. And so he said that he can cure natural sickness like blindness or death with Allah's permission. As well as give life. Nobody trusted him. So he took some sand from the ground, formed a bird and the bird flew away as it was really a bird. The bird was alive. They thought he was a sorcerer and tied him onto some wooden stakes.
He was to die in the sunset. But just before that, when everyone was away, he was lifted up into the sky and a man similar to him was sent down to replace him. The man was suppose to be punished by death anyway and he died because thrown by rocks and such. So, Isa is alive and when he descends on this world, it would be the world's end.
So if can, please change your signature. If he had dies, he should not be the one who descend on the last Friday of the world.
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:39 pm
LoGa Knight A mosque should be built for prayers and not for show. Do not decorate it too much as this is the sign of the end of the world. I know this. But, most of the mosque's that were built during the time of kingship in the Muslim era were made to show beauty......not for prayer. And you don't have to worry, even though we live in a western country we hold all 5 prayers in this mosque. Quote: And your signature is very...hmm...how to say it...making me feel uneasy... My signature is the truth. Quote: Isa a.s is not dead. Guess I have to tell the story. Mariam gave birth to Isa a.s when she was 12 after the seed had been put into her. As soon as Isa was born, he told his mother to eat the kurma"dates from the tree she was resting onas she was hungry". Later on in the future, a kid bumped on Isa a.s. Isa told him about an apple his mother was hiding for him. The kid ran back home, asking his mother where she put the apple. The mother asked the kid back how did he know that she was hiding an apple. The kid told his mother Isa told him. So, she thought he was a witch/wizard or w/e. Then in the middle of a field, Isa claimed he brought Allah's religion. Everyone said that he was lying. And so he said that he can cure natural sickness like blindness or death with Allah's permission. As well as give life. Nobody trusted him. So he took some sand from the ground, formed a bird and the bird flew away as it was really a bird. The bird was alive. They thought he was a sorcerer and tied him onto some wooden stakes. He was to die in the sunset. But just before that, when everyone was away, he was lifted up into the sky and a man similar to him was sent down to replace him. The man was suppose to be punished by death anyway and he died because thrown by rocks and such. So, Isa is alive and when he descends on this world, it would be the world's end. So if can, please change your signature. If he had dies, he should not be the one who descend on the last Friday of the world. You have Hadhrat Isa's (as) story all wrong. And Isa (as) is dead. I'll prove his death according to the Holy Qur'an in another forum. Anyways here's the full story: Hadhrat Isa was not a seed......? It's called a sperm. When Hadhrat Isa was born he could not speak he was a baby. At that time Hadhrat Maryam (ra) was in a state of very great fear because she was wondering what the villagers would say about her random birth. Then an angel descended and told her to not be afraid. He told her to eat the dates from the tree she gave birth under, and to wash Hadrat Isa (as) in a stream that was nearby. He also told her that if anyone came to ask of her or by her, then to tell them that she was fasting so she could not see anyone. The middle part is not true. And about his "assumed death" he did not die, when he was hung on the cross. He went into a coma, and awaking later, he left to find the Lost Sheep of Isreal, which he did. And then he died of old age in Kashmir, India.
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:43 am
Hmm...different from what we heard. And if Isa was to be dead, then the one who will descend down to the world is who then if it is not Isa himself?
And your story is very much not similar to mine. *sigh*
Eh...I hate this. Someone kept on changing history facts. I am not saying that your belief is wrong nor mine. Let it be then. It is a trivial matter.
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:14 pm
LoGa Knight Hmm...different from what we heard. And if Isa was to be dead, then the one who will descend down to the world is who then if it is not Isa himself? The Promised Messiah (as), Hadhrat Mirxa Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani was to descend to reform Islam. Quote: And your story is very much not similar to mine. *sigh* Eh...I hate this. Someone kept on changing history facts. I am not saying that your belief is wrong nor mine. Let it be then. It is a trivial matter. No the Mullahs are crazy people who only care for politics.....and even though they have the knowledge of the true Islam they lead people astray because they are ignorant and only care for money......and worldly comforts. The Promised Messiah (as) made many revelation and mostly all of them have come true. In his very life time 100's of revelations came true, to signal his truth to the world. For example, when he claimed to be the Mahdhi and Messiah the moon and the sun had been eclipsed. And these things are not trivial. They make all the difference in whether one goes to hell or heaven. ANd Hadhrat Isa (as) is dead.....I will post it today in another forum......
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:10 am
Pheonixia LoGa Knight Hmm...different from what we heard. And if Isa was to be dead, then the one who will descend down to the world is who then if it is not Isa himself? The Promised Messiah (as), Hadhrat Mirxa Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani was to descend to reform Islam. Quote: And your story is very much not similar to mine. *sigh* Eh...I hate this. Someone kept on changing history facts. I am not saying that your belief is wrong nor mine. Let it be then. It is a trivial matter. No the Mullahs are crazy people who only care for politics.....and even though they have the knowledge of the true Islam they lead people astray because they are ignorant and only care for money......and worldly comforts. The Promised Messiah (as) made many revelation and mostly all of them have come true. In his very life time 100's of revelations came true, to signal his truth to the world. For example, when he claimed to be the Mahdhi and Messiah the moon and the sun had been eclipsed. And these things are not trivial. They make all the difference in whether one goes to hell or heaven. ANd Hadhrat Isa (as) is dead.....I will post it today in another forum...... There is no more prophet after Rasulullah(peace be upon him) and if you deny this fact, you are lost. Because here, you deny what Allah had said. What Allah had claimed. And that is Mohamed SAW is the last prophet. If that is so, doesn't mean that he is in fact, the Promised Messiah. The Messiah is Isa. And if you claim that Hadhrat Mirxa Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani is to descend to the world, we would all be dead by now. And in the Quran or hadith that said that the largest group of Muslims, is the ones who shall be accepted into Heaven. Ahmadiah is one of the minor groups. So therefore, I already know there's no point in arguing to one.
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:49 am
1st isa is not dead and in the Quran have mentioned he was lifted to the heaven
promise messiah nobody knows who it is as it wasnt stated in the quran remind that!!!
2nd....in my country education system ahmadiyah is considered to be false teaching...sory to mention that
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:03 am
XeroRyn 1st isa is not dead and in the Quran have mentioned he was lifted to the heaven Prove it. We both believe in the same Qur'an and Ahadith. You post the quotes in support of your argument, I will post quotes in support of my argument. Quote: promise messiah nobody knows who it is as it wasnt stated in the quran remind that!!! Yes but prophecies about him were written about. Which came true at the time of Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as). A true believer can always recognize the truth. Quote: 2nd....in my country education system ahmadiyah is considered to be false teaching...sory to mention that I am assuming that you are from an Islamic country. Now let me tell you something about your so-called Islamic countries.....that are going into the trash. (I do not beleive that there is a single true Islamic country in the world at this point). 1) The Mullahs of these countries make false claims from the Qur'an and try to use propaganda tactics to make people look away from whats true 2) These so-called Islamic countries, are in fact, the ones who do not follow all the teachings of Islam diligently. For example, in the Qur'an it is stated "There is no compulsion in matters of religion", yet the so-called Islamic countries are the ones that do not allow other faiths to live in their country. Also, they are the ones that kill people if they were to convert from Islam to another religion. What hyposcrisy! 3) These are the countries where Muslim women can not even breathe a breath of freedom. 1500 years ago Hadhrat Muhammad (saw) gave so many rights to the women of Islam and the world. But, we see in these so-called Islami countries do not even give women the choice to do pardah or not. 4) These are the countries (here I am only talking about the politicians) who are in love with money and the west so much that they ignore the suffering of the people of their own countries and the Islamic countries around them. For example, Sudan is a poor country where many are starving. It is right next to Saudi Arabia a oil-rich country. But could the Saudi's even care a bit about humanity! 5) These are the countries who are spreading the wrong message of Islam to the world. The message of Islam is one of peace and properity.....not one of false Jihad's I could go on but I will stop here, unless you tempt me in your next post to write more. Anyways, the point of these arguments was to show you that......if your country can do all these un-Islamic things then should you as an individual believe whatever is written in these textbooks full of propaganda!
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:08 am
Pheonixia XeroRyn 1st isa is not dead and in the Quran have mentioned he was lifted to the heaven Prove it. We both believe in the same Qur'an and Ahadith. You post the quotes in support of your argument, I will post quotes in support of my argument. Quote: promise messiah nobody knows who it is as it wasnt stated in the quran remind that!!! Yes but prophecies about him were written about. Which came true at the time of Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as). A true believer can always recognize the truth. Quote: 2nd....in my country education system ahmadiyah is considered to be false teaching...sory to mention that I am assuming that you are from an Islamic country. Now let me tell you something about your so-called Islamic countries.....that are going into the trash. (I do not beleive that there is a single true Islamic country in the world at this point). 1) The Mullahs of these countries make false claims from the Qur'an and try to use propaganda tactics to make people look away from whats true 2) These so-called Islamic countries, are in fact, the ones who do not follow all the teachings of Islam diligently. For example, in the Qur'an it is stated "There is no compulsion in matters of religion", yet the so-called Islamic countries are the ones that do not allow other faiths to live in their country. Also, they are the ones that kill people if they were to convert from Islam to another religion. What hyposcrisy! 3) These are the countries where Muslim women can not even breathe a breath of freedom. 1500 years ago Hadhrat Muhammad (saw) gave so many rights to the women of Islam and the world. But, we see in these so-called Islami countries do not even give women the choice to do pardah or not. 4) These are the countries (here I am only talking about the politicians) who are in love with money and the west so much that they ignore the suffering of the people of their own countries and the Islamic countries around them. For example, Sudan is a poor country where many are starving. It is right next to Saudi Arabia a oil-rich country. But could the Saudi's even care a bit about humanity! 5) These are the countries who are spreading the wrong message of Islam to the world. The message of Islam is one of peace and properity.....not one of false Jihad's I could go on but I will stop here, unless you tempt me in your next post to write more. Anyways, the point of these arguments was to show you that......if your country can do all these un-Islamic things then should you as an individual believe whatever is written in these textbooks full of propaganda! First, when you said about Abu Bakar said that the prophets before him is dead, he didn't say all. Second, the promised messiah is Isa. A true believer can always recognize the truth. Yes. And that is why I believe in what Rasulullah and the Quran said. No more prophets after Mohamed. And yet you treat this man as he is a prophet. Revelations can come from anywhere. Does that mean if I get a thousand revelations correct I am the messiah? Do a better research. Then they are not Islamic countries. In my country, every religion coexist. And yet we still live in harmony. Women work and do whatever they want here. Women here work and do as they please like men. They are respected like men. Look at your country. Then you tell me. You are spreading false teachings. And they are teaching false message. Un-Islamic things, then when you believe there's more prophet after Mohamed, is it Islamic? When you talk, think what you are saying. If those people write and we still don't believe the contents of the text books, then you canno blame it on us. Blame it on them. Same as we can blame it on you for your people who write false teachings.
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:39 am
Pheonixia XeroRyn 1st isa is not dead and in the Quran have mentioned he was lifted to the heaven Prove it. We both believe in the same Qur'an and Ahadith. You post the quotes in support of your argument, I will post quotes in support of my argument. Quote: promise messiah nobody knows who it is as it wasnt stated in the quran remind that!!! Yes but prophecies about him were written about. Which came true at the time of Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as). A true believer can always recognize the truth. Quote: 2nd....in my country education system ahmadiyah is considered to be false teaching...sory to mention that I am assuming that you are from an Islamic country. Now let me tell you something about your so-called Islamic countries.....that are going into the trash. (I do not beleive that there is a single true Islamic country in the world at this point). 1) The Mullahs of these countries make false claims from the Qur'an and try to use propaganda tactics to make people look away from whats true 2) These so-called Islamic countries, are in fact, the ones who do not follow all the teachings of Islam diligently. For example, in the Qur'an it is stated "There is no compulsion in matters of religion", yet the so-called Islamic countries are the ones that do not allow other faiths to live in their country. Also, they are the ones that kill people if they were to convert from Islam to another religion. What hyposcrisy! 3) These are the countries where Muslim women can not even breathe a breath of freedom. 1500 years ago Hadhrat Muhammad (saw) gave so many rights to the women of Islam and the world. But, we see in these so-called Islami countries do not even give women the choice to do pardah or not. 4) These are the countries (here I am only talking about the politicians) who are in love with money and the west so much that they ignore the suffering of the people of their own countries and the Islamic countries around them. For example, Sudan is a poor country where many are starving. It is right next to Saudi Arabia a oil-rich country. But could the Saudi's even care a bit about humanity! 5) These are the countries who are spreading the wrong message of Islam to the world. The message of Islam is one of peace and properity.....not one of false Jihad's I could go on but I will stop here, unless you tempt me in your next post to write more. Anyways, the point of these arguments was to show you that......if your country can do all these un-Islamic things then should you as an individual believe whatever is written in these textbooks full of propaganda! EEEEKKKKKKKK!!!!!!! wrong im not from an Islamic Country, im from a multicultural country....we have islam cristian hindhu buddha taoisme and many more.......... than you forgot about one thing their isdiferences between society culture and religion...some of man's wrong doing is based on their culture or influence from outside culture...not the fault o being an ISlam or Islamic country second education is based on knowledge not based on society culture and perception. We set our education based on fact and a lot of thing that were set and given to us followed the Quran and Sunnah the greatest knowledge 3rd prohecies is prophecies..who create that prophecies? Human flaws? or word of Allah?
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