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CAN YOU SMELL WHAT BARACK IS COOKIN'?
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My mom thinks he's the anti-christ.
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And from what I know of his supporters, they all sound like sheep.
My mom asked one of my irl friends his opinion on Barack, and he was like, "I like Barack, he gives me hope."
I lol'd.
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I looked up some of the issues I deemed important and noticed he was anti-gun.
That was a long time ago, I didn't look into him much because I didn't think he'd make it at first.

so hes pro cops?

do you have an example of someone who didnt become "another" politician? are you sure that you are not trying to make obama the savior at last? cause thats what everyone does till they die, they say "this one is gonna be the one" and well then they die. lol

Bootlog > Lol, no, almost every politician in the past has had some kind of severe downside to him. For example, President Kennedy, who almost everyone seems to like, was putting troops in Vietnam and posturing for invasion long before Johnson and greatly increased our military stockpile. FDR, who led us through WW2 and helped bring us out of the depression signed an executive order putting Japanese Americans in internment camps, just like the enemies we fought.

My main hope for Barack Obama is that he becomes less an idol, and more a symbol, as his idea grows to push better social trends. You can bet that no matter what I will oppose him many times, but in essence, I want him to help change the ideas of the country. If and when he fails, then I intend to take up the task myself.


Awesome > I agree, in many cases, corporations are much more powerful than the government itself, as they control the government. Although, right now, Barack Obama is much more towards a Democratic- Socialist policy than either Hillary or *gags* McCain.

Although, right now, we are moving towards a more Socialist society politically as we move out of the Cold War. I remember seeing on TV that one of the Congressmen came right out and said he was a Socialist- and the audience cheered. All we need is to keep pushing, and we may well shift that way. If we do hit an all out recession, or depression, then we could very well get a new "New Deal" cutting on the oil companies and the mortgage industry.

The only problem with a Socialist Democracy is making sure that during the brief time that they hold political and economic power, they don't succeed in their lust for more...

Lol, last time I post about a mainstream politician in this guild. Seems like not very many here think that choosing the politician that makes it easier for us to move is an important issue.

Oh well, nonetheless, I agree. None of the politicians ever present any real plans, they only focus on giving speaches. Almost all strategy will be made behind the scenes, and we will be unable to see, let alone criticize, them. The police rarely act based on their principles, and do so on those of individually appointed police chiefs and military men. In the end, I do agree, politicians are only thin veils for the true policy.

Nonetheless, I suppose I'll state why I like Obama to begin with (for a presidential candidate). Keep in mind, a good majority of it is rhetoric, as it is with any politician. First is on his foreign policy. By talking to the leaders of important countries, you open up an entirely new strategic avenue for you to take advantage of. Negotiation is hardly the only incentive; if you don't speak to your enemy, how can you lie to them? The pen is mightier than the sword, especially when I say the punch is coming from the left, and then you feel a pain on the other side of your face.

Second is his economic policy. Obama seems to have the most regulating policy of the three, and Hillary tends to support right wing motives. She even intends to force us to have her healthcare. Obama only requires it for children, who need more medical attention than anyone, aside from the elderly or the disabled. He will also likely support education, as by looking at his biggest contributors, you can see that colleges are his biggest funding aside from the ever prominent small donors. If he doesn't follow their lobby, then he loses a big funding block.

Lastly, of course he would have the least amount of bills past. He's still only a freshman senator. And if you pull up the experience arguement, I'm sure you think your policies are better than a senior senator, I know very few who don't.

Aside from that, I don't intend to do much more defending. I'm only deciding who I vote for, and who would ignite more favorable social trends. (but then again, I'm just straight bored from debating elsewhere, and there's not much other political discussion going on here =P)

I got nothing against you Obomabots (just kidding ;D).
I just know that if Oboma does get elected, I'll be waiting for him to get shot.
I know a lot of the country isn't super racist, but the ones who ARE racist tend to be incredibly uh, passionate about their "views".



As long as Ron Paul NEVER wins an election for president, I won't be too concerned with who's in office.