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j5689

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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 6:30 pm


Yeah, I know I'm a supremo n00b at this, that is all too obvious though.

I hear people talking about it and stuff and some of my friends that play have the capability but never use it.

What does it do and how does it work?
PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 8:59 pm


its a piece of something inside the barrel that lightly touches the top of the pellet as it passes by, putting backspin on the pellet.
the backspin keeps it in the air longer.

exploding-waffles


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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 1:10 pm


exploding-waffles
its a piece of something inside the barrel that lightly touches the top of the pellet as it passes by, putting backspin on the pellet.
the backspin keeps it in the air longer.
You explain it quiet nicely but Ill give you a little more details. A hop up unit is located where the barrel meets the end of your gearbox. On most cheaper guns or a lot of shotguns there is a fixed hopup that cant be adjusted. The hopup can be found normally by pulling the charging handle. It works by the bb being feed by the nozzle at the bottom of the unit, as you pull the trigger the tappet plat(in the gearbox) pushes the air nozzel flush against the bb and pushes it with the force of the air. As it goes out the unit it goes through the bucking, a rubber seal for the barrel, as it goes through there, there is a piece called the spacer that presses down the bucking through a gap it the barrel, and as the bb goes under it like exploding-waffles said it puts a back spin on the bb that makes it air resistant. Hope that helps.
PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 5:13 pm


So it's sort of like how rifling works on real guns?

Also, how come none of my friends actually use it on their guns? It is always set to normal instead of hop-up.

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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:37 pm


j5689
So it's sort of like how rifling works on real guns?

Also, how come none of my friends actually use it on their guns? It is always set to normal instead of hop-up.

on lower end guns, the lowest setting can be to much, their not to terribly precise. you can have too much spin on the pellet and it will rise up too much.
it takes a bit of experimentation to find the best setting for each gun.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:52 am


j5689
So it's sort of like how rifling works on real guns?

Also, how come none of my friends actually use it on their guns? It is always set to normal instead of hop-up.


Actually, it doesn't really have anything to do with rifling. That's what a tightbore barrel somewhat does. In a tightbore, it causes the bb to bounce around less wildly as it travels down the barrel. There's also the Tanio Kobia reverse rifling barrel which the rifling is actually recessed grooves with a twist so the air pushes the BB into a gyroscopic spin when used in conjunction with hop-up. A real rifling has grooves sticking out to grab the bullet and force it into a twist, which causes the marks on bullets that you see on CSI and the like. I saw a test where it didn't do really anything at close ranges (20 feet or so), but helped improve the grouping (which really defines a gun's accuracy since sights can be adjusted) in longer ranges (about 60-80 feet I think).

As for a definition of hop-up, exploding-waffles has how it works down, but not really as to why. Time for a little science lesson for those that are interested.

The system applies the pressure on the top of the bb as it's fired, and creates backspin. This causes the bb to gain lift and fly further. It's possible due to Bernoulli's principle, which explains why an airfoil allows by it's shape and design, is able to create lift. (faster air, lower air pressure) It's like a golf ball with little divits being able to fly further than one without, or a baseball, if thrown with a forward spin, will drop down low (in this case, it's sort of a reverse hop-up because the lower pressure is under the ball).

Science lesson over.

It's all about adjusting the hop-up to the proper level. You want it to travel with as straight and flat a path as you can manage before gravity takes over and it drops down. Too much, and it'll climb creating a hill shape at the end. Too little, and you won't get the full benefit. It takes some trial and error, much like adjusting sights.

The reason some people don't use them can be a couple reasons: 1) They're lazy. 2) They won't be using it at the gun's maximum range and be dealing with CQB scenarios. 3) They choose not to use it because of the trade off by using hop-up: By gaining a higher range, you sacrifice some accuracy due to the unpredictability of how effective the hop-up will be on every single bb. There will be an extremely slight variation with each one and how well it performs. However, in these cases, most would just get a gun that doesn't even have any hop-up.

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