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 Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 1:49 pm
Here are a couple definitions to mull over:
"Anime" is simply the Japanese word for any animation, Japanese or otherwise, in any style.
In the US, however, the term is applied specifically to Japanese animation with a stylistic debt to the visual style developed in the middle of last century by Japanese comic artists ("Manga-ka") such as Osamu Tezuka.
Amongst western otaku (another term used significantly differently in Japan than elsewhere), there is a kind of chauvinism regarding "authentic" anime, similar in some ways to the long-running subs v. dubs argument: there's a tendency towards narrow-minded formalism, as opposed to judging each case based on it's individual merits.
With that in mind, here's a variety of borderline cases to consider: anime or not?
Afro-Samurai: Based on a Japanese manga, production by a Japanese company and co-produced by Samuel L. Jackson, broadcast first in the US, musical score by the RZA.
Avatar: American produced cartoon series in distinctly Japanese aesthetic style.
Big O season two: Produced by cartoon Network
IGPX: English and Japanese versions co-produced simultaneously by Production IG and Cartoon Network.
Kill Bill's animated sequence: Production IG again
Oban Star-Racers: French production, ending theme by Kanno Yoko.
It is also worth noting that regardless of the production's country of origin, the actual traditional (as opposed to full-CG) animation takes place in Korea. The CG portion, which encompasses a greater portion of shows as a whole and of the animation within shows as well is another story; production facilities exist all over. The Square productions (the Final Fantasy movies) are housed in a $140 million studio in Hawaii, for instance.
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 8:12 pm
Ra Fury Here are a couple definitions to mull over: "Anime" is simply the Japanese word for any animation, Japanese or otherwise, in any style. In the US, however, the term is applied specifically to Japanese animation with a stylistic debt to the visual style developed in the middle of last century by Japanese comic artists (" Manga-ka") such as Osamu Tezuka. Amongst western otaku (another term used significantly differently in Japan than elsewhere), there is a kind of chauvinism regarding "authentic" anime, similar in some ways to the long-running subs v. dubs argument: there's a tendency towards narrow-minded formalism, as opposed to judging each case based on it's individual merits. With that in mind, here's a variety of borderline cases to consider: anime or not? Afro-Samurai: Based on a Japanese manga, production by a Japanese company and co-produced by Samuel L. Jackson, broadcast first in the US, musical score by the RZA. Avatar: American produced cartoon series in distinctly Japanese aesthetic style. Big O season two: Produced by cartoon Network IGPX: English and Japanese versions co-produced simultaneously by Production IG and Cartoon Network. Kill Bill's animated sequence: Production IG again Oban Star-Racers: French production, ending theme by Kanno Yoko. It is also worth noting that regardless of the production's country of origin, the actual traditional (as opposed to full-CG) animation takes place in Korea. The CG portion, which encompasses a greater portion of shows as a whole and of the animation within shows as well is another story; production facilities exist all over. The Square productions (the Final Fantasy movies) are housed in a $140 million studio in Hawaii, for instance. i was a bit broad on what is an anime in the previous thread(avatar) though ill go over it herein a bit more, afro samurai:produced by japanese in a japanese company but co-produced by samuel L. Jackson thats iffy but it is based off a japanese manga which brings me to the conclusion this is indeed a japanese anime. as for avatar and IGPX: they seem to have followed along the lines of a somewhat "americanized" format of anime, they are not produced in japan or by a japanese company therefore I cant consider them to be anime, they folow the style but are not that, i would consider them american animation with an eastern influence. Big O season 2, apparently CN decided it was a good idea to extend the series so they did, though I like big O in general and I can't imagine it not being an "anime" but also produced by an american company, with if I am not mistaken no involvement with the japanese? im not sure on this. also for full CG animation for example final fantasy:advent children, this would not be considered an anime an anime is as far as I can tell what is, the drawing and such the whole cartoon or animated style, i dont consider anything fully CG like advent children to be an anime, but merely a CG animation movie...to me anime is under the scope of the drawn or mostly drawn, as nowadays they tend to use computers but dont give it such a CG look, still leaving the drawn look.
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:47 pm
In the old days, like Vegeta mentioned in the Avatar thread, a couple terms were thrown around. Vegeta mentioned that "Japanimation" was used a lot, but there were also the terms "Amerime" and "Amerimanga." I still here these today, but mostly from older otaku. Amerime is American based animation that borrows its style from Japanese anime. Amerimanga is American comics such as Ninja High School and Gold Diggers, that uses the Japanese manga style.
Because things are getting a bit mixed up in ths crazy globalist society f ours, the terms are now becoming mixed. I can see Japanimation being squashed by the Politically Correct movement, and also by the fact that the cells for Japanese animation used to be painted by hand by Korean companies. This is true of American cartoons today (those that still use hand painted cells). Also much of what is known as "Tweening" (referring to "In-Between Animation") used to make American animation smoother is also done in Korea and Japan. In fact it's gotten pretty much to the point where story boards are shipped over seas to Japan, Korea, India, and China where most of the animation is finished.
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