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DM_Melkhar
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:14 pm


In a vain attempt to find that "someone" in my life, I joined a free dating website quite a few months ago now. Sad? Perhaps. It's also a laugh, and creepy sometimes when you have someone who's more than twice your age winking you. As a Christian, I want to find "the one" if you catch my drift, and I'm hoping he'll come along sooner rather than later. I also felt that he who might be searching for me could have joined one of these sites, so what's the harm in trying?

Anyway, this one guy kept sending me messages sporadically and he always asks the same questions. He uses text speak like a second nature saying "u r so fabulous n special I'm sure all the men are kissin ur shoes 4 date" etc. *Hack, cough - thrusts fingers down throat.* In addition to that *sigh.*

After this last message I sent a rather crude one back, and thankfully he can't reply as I blocked the idiot.

This is what I sent (I'm not very nice to people who aggravate me that much).


My message to Seahores(gosh)
You've asked me all these things a few times before, and it's getting quite tiresome. I actually look my age when my hair is down, and most of the photos aren't good quality. If any man tried to kiss my black, trainer-like boy's shoes (because my feet are wide) I'd probably kick him in the face and tell him to get a life.

I'm on this site in a vain attempt to find someone who fits the criteria in my profile (most men on this site have no idea because they're too thick to read it, unless they enjoy making me cringe)

Like I said above, I've given you answers to all the questions you've just asked before.

I'm also a tomboy. I like to prove to men I'm as tough as if not tougher than them. I've done four martial arts and I sail on tall ships, that's got me some nice well-toned muscles as well. I think I'm repeating myself here I think. Oh yes, I'm not modest at all as you may have gathered - blame all of this on my chauvinistic older brother if you will.

Let's get another thing straight, I'm not far off 6ft now, you're not my type and above all, you're at least 7 years past the given sell by age on my profile.

Terribly sorry to disappoint.

Mel.

So, let's all talk about the "art of sarcasm" shall we? People say it's the lowest form of wit, but it's actually rather clever and often makes others think. Yes it's usually hurtful as well, but come on, we all use it sometimes - just I happen to be one of those who uses it more often than most.

I'd appreciate it if certain people here wouldn't have a go at me about it, this person was bothering me for quite a while and decided not to pull my punches for once. It's also a bit of fun. The guy never took my hints when I'd said politely before "I'm not interested" several times, and he's probably never even read all the information on the profile I have on there.

What then have we all done or said in a sarcastic manner whether it be light-hearted or the result of aggravation?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:24 pm


Wow, what a creepy situation! I'm glad to hear you gave him the gate! And no, there's no harm in trying. Nice people do actually post in sites like that, and hopefully you'll find "the one!"

My favourite piece of sarcasm is this, which I use just often enough to be amusing but not have it grow old. I created it to use on a friend who I actually WOULD miss a great deal... and I put it in the mouth of Legolas's father in a fanfic:

(said to someone who is being annoying) "I shall miss you when you are dead. Not much--and not for long. But I shall miss you. When you are dead." smile

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:53 am


I agree with Jasta. It's probably for the best that you gave him tha boot. I doubt I'm the one for you Mel but who can say for sure? I mean, I'm 10 years older so that counts me out. And even though we do have quite a few things in common, I can only say for sure if I like a girl enough after a few dates. And since we can't date, well... rolleyes
I've also heard about sarcasm being a low form of wit. I guess it depends on how you look at it and how it's used. I agree with you in that it makes people think. I rather not use it myself but I do use it sometimes. mrgreen

Has anyone seen the episode of The Simpsons where, Lisa joins MENSA and professor Brink develops a sarcasm detector? I loved when the comic book guy said: "A sarcasm detector? That's a real useful invention!" Ha-ha! rofl
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:17 pm


Here's a sarky line from Horatio Nelson - "I have only one eye Foley; I have the right to be blind sometimes. I really do not see the signal."

That was at the battle of Copenhagen when Nelson went ahead instead of taking heed of the signal to stop (I think - will confirm later when I've read all the info). A head injury that Nelson sustained caused him to lose the sight out of his right eye.

DM_Melkhar
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Gornwen

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:55 pm


Funny, I though puns were the lowest form of wit.

It might come from living with an 18 year old sister who is still all too much in love with sarcasm, but I have grown to appreciate its art less. Really good, very appropriate sarcasm, that is another story, but little cheeky comments drive me up the wall.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:08 pm


DM, I have always privately felt that Nelson was being doubly funny with that comment--he really probably could not see it, and thus rushed ahead... but he was an impatient and heroic commander, and probably felt it was the right thing to do. I've heard of other great commanders using some kind of excuse in a humourous, snarky way like that to justify an action. It always works best when you're successful, of course, and he was. smile

Brilliant man, really...

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DM_Melkhar
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:15 pm


Gornwen: I'm 21 and I can be very sarky at times. If someone really gets on my nerves it has the potential to shut them up, and if it's a light-hearted joke on someone like my mum or dad, I just get one of those "ohh ha ha" kind of responses.

When someone really makes me angry, then I may end up using it as a retaliation.

One has to be witty in order to use it in the first place. It requires a sharp mind regardless of whether you appreciate it or not.

Jasta: Oh yes that's our Admiral alright. wink

There's also a line he wrote at the end of a letter to his brother William (who was rather lazy). This is taken from "The Pursuit of Victory: The Life and Achievement of Horatio Nelson."

Roger Knights says...
At the end of the page he mischievously writes to his lazy brother...
"NB if it is not too troublesome turn over."
PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:31 pm


LOL! That's a great line! I love finding out things like that about people from the past. We think of them generally one-dimensionally, but they were all living, breathing people with feelings, a sense of humour (or lack thereof!) and all that.

The great English writer Sidney Smith once told a friend of his "I am just now going over to St. Paul's to pray for you--with very little hope of success." *grins* I've used that line on people from time to time....

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Hydrogen Nebula

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:23 pm


Oh dear gods!

I use sarcasm like it was my second language, I got a double whammy, my mother's a cynic as is my dad ... my sister can't breathe without using verbal irony and she's nearly borderline SARDONIC!

I think that there is a time and a place for it, as is everything, but there are times, admittedly, that people are just dumb and sarcasm is the only remedy ...

Then there are the ultrasensitive lameoids, (no offense to anyone intended) that can't take a joke and get offended by sarcasm ... just because some people can't handle a wee bit of caustic wit is their own problem....

Yeah, we should watch our tongue or we'll wind up eating our words but still ... c'mon folks ... in this PC obsessed world surrounded by euphemisms and forced cordiality, you'd think that sarcasm is some sort of psychological leak to express the underlying rage we're forced to hide ... like the claw marks that poke through our little white gloves ....


*gets off soap box*
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 11:34 am


Heh heh heh...
A while ago I added an application on facebook called "Quotes" where you can add your own quotes or those from your friends and such. Here are the ones I have currently...


Melissa Joy (Facebook)
1.) "The internet is a useful means of finding out information. That is unless you're looking for something very specific. The more specific you are in your search, the less useful the results become."

2.) "Living in society is becoming far too expensive these days. We'd all be better off taking some lessons from the past and start building huts in the woods again. The world is on the brink of a depression, and if it wakes the world's leaders up to reality then let it happen."

3.) "A common question I'm asked usually begins with 'how do you spell...' followed by the word the spelling is required for. The simplest answer is this... Find a dictionary and buy it."

4.) "The very hub of society is peripheral to the passing on of comments and remarks, yet ninety percent of the time the information exchanged between individuals is neither important nor interesting."

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:40 pm


Gornwen
Funny, I though puns were the lowest form of wit.


As a frequent cracker of puns and one who has been proclaimed by her a friends a "master of pun-fu," I must whole-heartedly disagree. There is a definite art to it. When a pun is delivered in the most artistic way possible, the only sound that will follow it for at least ten seconds is the sound of eyes blinking.

But besides that, no one stands around having sarcasm contests...

^_~

Berz.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:44 pm


Berz - Oh, don't get me wrong. I find the phrase "lowest form of wit" to be a bit of a complement. Only the truly skilled can pull of a supreme pun, which I find to be one of the greatest joys in life. Along with really really bad puns, which are equally amusing.


Mel - Witty sarcasm is most enjoyable, I agree fully. The sarcasm employed while its wit is still being mastered is the exact opposite, and often turns from being amusing to outright insulting in the most base of manners (especially after hour long car rides). A good insult can be enjoyed out of context, simple name calling cannot.

Gornwen


DM_Melkhar
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:12 am


I agree Gornwen. I'd only use sarcasm to insult directly if someone really upset me or was having a go at me for no real reason. Otherwise, it's meant jokingly and is rather light-hearted. I use it on my parents frequently, which makes them give me that 'oh how clever' expression with a quote like "oh ha ha, clever cloggs."

The classic ones that make people roll their eyes are good too. They're amusing, and light-hearted, but they're the really bad pun types.

It's like Nelson's "if it is not too troublesome, turn over" line in his letter to his brother. He didn't mean it to insult his brother for being lazy, but because William was lazy he took the mick at him a little and did it light-heartedly.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:32 am


And I'll say now...
If it is not too troublesome, read and reply.
smile

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JastaElf
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:53 am


*grins* Good shot, Cap'n!
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