UNDER CONSTRUCTION!
things to do: ORGANIZE!
first post: non dancey stuff history
second post: non dancey notable bands and record labels
third post: dancey history
fourth post: dancey notable bands and artists
So here it is... Most likely, it's gonna need a lot more history thrown into it I can easily cover American Coldwave but EBM is my weak point. Creating a complete list of Post-Industrial related stuff is probably gonna take some time as well; this is not a complete list:
American Coldwave is pretty much TR00 Industrial Rock blending elements of Industrial music such as noise (white noise, "pink" noise, extreme distortion of instruments and vocals, metal percussion (think *lead pipe slamming against steel plate*), use of power tools and other stuffs...) and using a buttload of samples (not just in the beginning middle or end of the song, but as an integral part of the song) and elements of Rock, Punk, and/or Metal (traditional Rock instruments (maybe with a Synth, Theremin, or drum machine), vocals and instrumental techniques often accredited to such styles) into a Rock song structure. Some bands, however, favor the Industrial side of it and can have lots of samples and noise with a driving riff and "traditional rock" vocals with little song structure. It's really a creative and varied genre that I personally think is underrated and under appreciated (redundant?). Bands don't usually sound alike with only a small handful that you could really lump together.
Early Pioneers:
SPK as early Industrial legends and innovators, they were also highly influential to the growth of Post-Industrial. They had a few songs that contained Rock styled guitars and song structure, even if the lyrics didn't always follow that structure, and half way through their career, they turned to a much more Synth Pop oriented sound before ending it on a more Symphonic scope similar to what one of the main guys would go into: composing film scores... and then never mentioning his past musical experience again... b*****d. "Mekano" is the prime example of their experimentation with Rock.
Thomas Leer - (along with Robert Rental... but I'm not sure what his contribution to the tracks were) "Day Breaks, Night Heals" (From "The Bridge" mixes Experimental electronics' sounds with Rock(ish) styled guitars and a steady song structure. Leer would later add these Electronics to his Pop oriented sound.
Modern English has a song on their first album called "16 Days", which has a steady flow of media samples (about the Nuclear Bomb if I remember correctly) flowing under their Gothic Rock sound.
Chrome's music ranges from Industrial, Rock, Experimental and Experimental Rock, to Proto-Coldwave (referring to Coldwave before it had the name)... and that's just on their first releases... good stuff that I need more of!
Godflesh probably the most Industrial in song structure and production techniques, running instruments through... something... I'm not TOO familiar, but they apparently had an electronic fetish, and of course, they have a Noise track or two. Unlike a good number of their clones, they rarely followed a set song structure, a common trait of Industrial music. But they aren't themselves Industrial... just VERY Experimental.
Industrial Rock/Metal cannot exist outside of being Coldwave , bands called Industrial Metal fall into 5 categories:
1. Rock or Metal bands that have little to no electronic, let alone Industrial, elements and just sound different from any of their counterparts, so they are just called Industrial because it's more appealing somehow.
2. Rock or Metal bands with little Industrial or electronic elements, though, not enough to make them Industrial.
3. Rock or Metal bands with medium to heavy Electronic, but NO Industrial elements, in their music.
4. Black, Death, Stoner, Groove, Doom, Drone, etc, Metal bands with little (mostly) or medium Industrial or Electronic elements. It is usually made clear that they are an Industrial (blank) Metal band.
5. A Coldwave band...
Some examples of Standard Coldwave are (expect this list to grow):
Ministry (First band to stay consistent with the style and the one to start the machine up, but only on the albums "The Land of Rape and Honey", "The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste", and the essential Coldwave album "Psalm 69".
Chemlab "Burn Out at the Hydrogen Bar" really set Coldwave in motion, getting it a bit more into the popular light... my personal favorite album of their's is "Oxidizer".
Circle of Dust - I never really got their album names committed to memory, but they have a pretty standard Coldwave sound following the Ministry style of using lots of media samples, but they certainly stand out because Klay Scott (who was in a few other, less notable Coldwave bands, Synth Rock bands, and is the mind behind Celldweller) is part of it. They're also a Christian band, but it rarely shows in the lyrics.
Coptic Rain is a female fronted band that utilizes samples, distorted vocals, and some bits of noise.... not an American band.
Battery 9 South African band that used to take a big generator or drill or... some large piece of equipment with them to live shows... but it became too much of a hassle to lug it all over so they ditched it. Favoring noise over samples and sometimes throwing in some Afrikaans rap, they're damn good.
Peace, Love, and Pitbulls - With weird as ******** lyrics and bitchin riffs with clangy clangs and kzzz's floatin' around, PL&P's self titled debut album swept me off my feet. Their second album, while not Coldwave, is pretty good, too... but don't bother with the third and final (as far as I know) release.
Hanzel Und Gretyl - Hailing from Germany... OH WAIT! That's just what they want you to think, they're really from New York, where they have to compete with Bile... good luck to them on their next album because "Sheissmessiah" is just that, a s**t Messiah; however "Uber Alles" and their previous albums (not Coldwave) are all pretty good.
I'll add more later,
Now for some "Different" Coldwave bands:
Swamp Terrorists are gods among men... I forget the entire collective that surrounds them, but all of their releases that I've heard ("Combat Shock", "Grow Speed Injection" (I think that's right... Speed could be Kill), and "Killer" are all very solid releases with "Combat Shock" being my favorite. I like to call their style "Angry White Boy Rap". They use sampled guitars and their sound is quite sample heavy.
Young Gods may not have been Coldwave for too long, but I have to research some more... "TV Sky" is probably their most well known (and likely their best) release. It's kinda relaxed and ethereal, I think is a good way to describe, with weird artsy lyrics.
Malhavoc "Get Down" album... is their only Coldwave album... though, I haven't been able to get a hold of their latest album... it's cheesy and pretty lame and has a kind of Swamp Terrorists-esque sound, but it has some decent riffs.
And finally Extreme American Coldwave:
Bile are pioneers of the sound blending elements harsh Noise, Industrial, Metal, and occasionally some other things into a festering boil made of AWESOME and WIN! No two albums sound a whole lot alike and over the years, their sound has become a bit more melodic. However, the first 3 tracks (and others spread throughout) of "Demonic Electronic" are a bit of a return to roots with different methods, the music itself sounds more distorted than previous albums making the guitars (usually boosted by the bass guitar) sound almost like white noise. Then there's the "solo" album, which shows off another side of KRZTOFF's creative power, the first half is pretty much a wide range of Darkwave with the second half being much more Industrial based. I suggest the "Suckpump", "Teknowhore", "Demonic Electronic", and "Nightmare Before KRZTOFF" releases the most.
Puncture are also pioneers of the Extreme Coldwave sound... they didn't make it onto the Mortal Kombat soundtrack and broke up not long before the movie came out (or was released). They put out two albums, a self titled which sucks, and "Immune", which is amazing. The album fits well with Bile's later releases (mainly "Demonic Electronic". They put out their first album (self titled) in 94, the same year Bile came out with "Suckpump", however they put out a cassette demo in 92... when Bile actually started.
Candiru is ARTSY AS ********! Influenced by Godflesh and some other stuff, they predated Bile and Puncture, but never got too much attention, however "Unloved and Weeded Out" is a stupendous mindwarping album rife with bizarre samples, trudging riffs, and thinkin man's poetry. I strongly recommend the album... you can also download left over studio stuff for their third official release (finding their first one is a b***h) as "Unloved and Dug out" (or something similar) at DTRASHRecords.com for free... and yes, it's legal.
Particle Son I found these crazy mofos on Myspace and kinda recently talked to one of the members on Soulseek (I found their terrific album a year earlier on soulseek and bought it not long before I spoke to the guy)... yeah, so it's called "Re:version" good stuff that blend elements of Noise, Metal, and EBM.
Cyanotic could help lead us into the new wave of Coldwave... by showing us what Pitchshifter would have sounded like if they were a Coldwave band that kept angry vocals... by that I mean Cyanotic blend elements of Industial, Metal, Drum n Bass, and other EDM forms. Their debut album "Transhuman" is terrific.
CTRLer I need to listen to them some more... you can get some of their work for free on DTRASHRecords.com.
Trust Obey consists of a nerd and his guitarist buddy... but mostly the nerd. One of their albums is a soundtrack to The Crow COMIC. HEAVY stuff, influence from Godflesh and some other stuff. Some samples throughout... I'm actually debating whether to label them the same as Godflesh or not, but GOOD STUFF!
Panic DHH (perhaps)
Synth Rock (also sometimes called Industrial Rock and Industrial Metal... many bands can be better defined as Rock bands w/ a Synth or some form of electronics):
No-Big-Silence ("War in Wonderland" album)
The Screamers (Synth Punk)
Nervous Gender (Synth Punk)
KMFDM (middle era)
Paved in Skin
(general) Post-Industrial (bands that take some Industrial elements and blend them with more mainstream sounds and structures while not exactly conforming to more established genres):
Darling Kandie
(early) PIG
(early) KMFDM
(much of) Nine Inch Nails
(debating) Revolting Cocks
EBM
EBM is dance music influenced by Industrial music, however, over the years, bands have tended to move away from Industrial sounds.
FRONT 242 - Fathers of EBM
Front 242 The Documentary! (part 1... (the other parts should be on youtube as well)).
http://youtube.com/watch?v=sySmx6K3XbIHeadhunter Video
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-9lmJmM3UUkBigod 20
Armageddon Dildoes (sp?)
Nitzer Ebb
Digital Poodle
Vomito Negro
X-Marks the Pedwalk
Mentallo and the Fixer
Leatherstrip
:Wumpscut: (early stuff mostly)
C-Tec
Front Line Assembly (early works)
(debating) Revolting Cocks
Clock DVA (after first album)
Micro Chip League (M.C.L.)
The Gruesome Twosome
Snog (early stuff)
Meat Beat Manifesto (to a degree EBM, they had their own sound more so though)
Mussolini Headkick
Projekt Pitchfork
Sturm Cafe
Spetsnaz
Aggrotech (sample oontz angry vocal sample oontz):
I don't know about the history of Aggrotech... if anyone wants to fill me in, feel free. Personally, I feel it came from angry EBM people who saw Futurepop comin in (or didn't) and decided to get a little closer to their Industrial roots... and stuff. Here's a list of SUPAH GOOD! acts provided by Revengeance, augmented ever so slightly by myself:
Grendel
Combichrist (Joy of Gunz release, especially)
Dawn of Ashes
Tactical Sekt
Aslan Faction
The Retrosic
Hocico
Mesmers Eyes
Distorted Memory (GO LISTEN TO THEM!! NAO!)
Futurepop (some people question it's validity... I'll let them argue about it... uh.. oontz whiney vocal oonts synth line):
...It's Synthpop and is probably taken a hike soon.
Covenant
Dismantled
VNV Nation
Neurotic Fish
Apoptygma Berzerk
Seabound
Syrian
De/Vision
Assemblage 23
Butterfly Messiah
And One
Colony 5
Icon of Coil
Brudershaft
Rythmic Noise (Powernoise):
Terrorfakt
Noisuf-X
Xotox
Panzer Division
Alien Vampires
Fiendflug
This Morn Omina
Soman
Reaper
Noisex
Dulce Liquido (half of their stuff is hocico style dark electro / aggrotech the other half is rhythmic noise)
Edgey (sort of... also dabbles in Drum & bass / breakcore stuff)
Martial Industrial (Military Pop):
Music made with samples of War related samples including war marches, bombs going off, guns firing, and a lot more, though, samples aren't restrained to just War related ones. Sometimes there are folk elements and a number of bands crossover into Neo-Folk.
Der Blutharsch
Von Thronstahl
Kreuzweg Ost
Arditi
The Moon Lay Hidden Beneath a Clound
Puissance
Neo-Folk (Apocalyptic Folk):
Folk w/ samples
Death in June
Current 93
Sol Inviticus
In Gowan Ring
Fire and Ice
Ordo Rosarius Equilibrio
Seelenthron
Sonne Hagal
Spiritual Front
Trobar De Morte
Darkwood
Death Robot Music:
The Electro equivalent to Metal, extremely distorted synths and vocals with clean drums and occasional samples taken from Mortal Kombat games. Choruses are often chanted... yeah.
Carnivore Adaption
Tourian
Extermination Zone (best one I’ve heard)
Fire Drone 16
AC Bot
Soldier of Light
Breakcore
While not all acts can really be considered Post-Industrial... 2/3 of the list I have up here falls into that category, actually >.>, there are a number of acts that have a strong noise presence.
Hindu Pez
Dark Ambient:
It's Ambient music using noise.
Lustmord
Premature Ejaculation
C17H19NO3
Darkwave:
kinda dark synthpop
Clan of Xymox!
The Frozen Autumn
The Machine In the Garden
Wolfsheim
Attrition
Killing Miranda (first album)
Feel free to debate until we can get this more gooder. Thanks to some of the Electronic Music Subforum regs for some of the info after Coldwave.
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