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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:52 pm


Nuclear warfare, the two towers, Easton with a Royal Farms! What is the world coming to? We’ve come to believe ourselves more then the mere mammals that we are. Yes we have medical technology to save lives, yes we have beautiful utopia’s with vendors selling hot dogs and lights above the city streets, but when was the last time you were able to look at the stars without thinking about your tax return’s?

I can’t help but feel sorry for the human race; I can’t help but feel sorry for myself.

We are a competitive over stimulated menace to the decent world of mammal’s reptile’s bird’s fish and platypus. Our closest relative, the Ape has more common sence then we do, they have more capability to nurture and care for their loved ones, and to top it all off they can congregate peacefully working towards a common goal. They mourn the loss of a loved one, they use tools to get by. But my question is, have you ever seen an ape with a brick house and a golden retriever?


(The ED bashed the ape reference, but it wasn't researched...just a rant...)
PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:28 am


To put it simply: a more complex society brings about more complex problems.
However, you seem to paint a perfect picture for the Ape that would do better on a postcard than in a biology text. Certainly, Apes can come together in peace, but they can also wage wars (with tools, even!). Do humans not mourn lost loved ones? If we do not use tools, what do you call the computer? The pencil? The sword? The picture put forth paints human beings in the negative, their relatives in the positive. Then again, human beings are apes, though more developed.

However, what somewhat confuses me is the portion of your rant where you say, "but when was the last time you were able to look at the stars without thinking about your tax return's?" and its significance with the rest of your rant. Is it that humans have lost touch with their poetic side? Or that they have become more materialistic, losing their sense of wonder when they look up? Or that other Apes haven't this materialism, and thus still retain their imagination? This, in itself, stuffs all of humanity under a large umbrella; but what about our philosophers? Our astronomers? Our poets? I have yet to see another Ape, aside from humans, to speak or write in pictures.

I also wouldn't call the world we dominate a "decent world": while humans have done things that weren't exactly pretty, the idealized land untouched by human hands is a rather silly notion. Birds kill birds, insects kill insects, and so on. And, while it might be nice if humans could thrive without incredibly impacting the rest of life as we know it, at this point it's just impossible; whether we like it or not, human society has developed as such that we are on the top of the world. Humans, therefore, have the responsibility to do what they can for their surroundings while still allowing themselves to thrive.

Humans, like you said, are mere mammals. Thusly, we have problems such as wars and the pseudoscience of Social Darwinism -- survival of the fittest, everyone else should be eliminated. However, other Apes, in fact, the rest of life as we know it, follow the same principles. The difference in societies such as ours and those of the other Apes, as well as other social creatures, is that working together has proved useful for survival. Thus comes the development of morals - basic principles that a majority of humans abide by because they allow humans to thrive. These morals are not bound only to religion, but to human society itself; without these basic moral principles,

However, I must agree that human society has become over-stimulated, but that's another rant that I fear to delve into without digressing from this topic.

And, to answer your question literally: It's been exactly four weeks since I've seen an ape with a golden retriever; four years since I've seen an ape with a brick house.

I'm not sure if I answered your question clearly. I know I can sometimes write in jumbles that can be difficult to decipher, or is just a regular mess.

(And just an a**l-retentive, grammar-freak note: When forming plural words that are not possessive, one should NOT put an apostrophe between the word and the s: e.g., "mammal's" should be "mammals", etc.)

Terri Cherri

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