|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:16 am
Before you actually read my essay, read/watch this This film was made by a 15 year old girl.
The following is the hottest thing on the internet and on Fox News today.
Lizzie Palmer who put this YouTube program together is 15 years old. There have been over 3,000,000 hits as of this morning. In case you missed it, here it is.
Watch all of it.and, pass it on!! http://www.youtube.com/v/ervaMPt4Ha0&autoplay=1
So to begin, the armed forces are great. They know how to be proficient, efficient, effective and swift. They protect our freedoms and rights. Now I raise the question, when is it when they have gone too far? You will see all the time tv ads about how they will change your son/daughter in to a better person. Here's what they don't tell ya. Boot camp is hell. In talking with them, you will get them to say "They break you down to build you up" Build us up to what, a lean mean mindless killing machine? You see they don't break you down to the essence of you, they break your spirit. They squash creativity among the lower ranks. Then what you don't see is the de-tox process in which they have to go through. It is several weeks of intense consueling. No one like counsueling. And most of the time when you get back from de-tox, you still are programmed to kill. I don't understand how the armed forces can stand to live with themselves knowing that when the are done with you, they have left out in socieity a person who has to register as a lethal weapon, carrys a knife at all times and in all places, and has to have a concealed weapons license for thier hands. ans speaking of a leathal weapon, you have to jump through more hoops and do more paper work than a sex offender has to do when they move. Another question of mine, the returned soldiers, how is it that they can stand to be in normal society and have the knowledge to kill in at least six different ways. Or in six differnt ways with six different and random objects. And what about the families of the wounded soldeirs. Their wives/family have to look or deal with the physical, emotional, and spiritual scars for which war inflicts. They have deal with looking at it everyday and know that their wive, husband, father, mother, brother, sister ect was wounded out in duty because nations could not get along. And the families of the dead sildiers, what do they get? Money and a flag. They get a set amount of money in pension from the goverment for only a set amount of time. And at the funeral, the family who hasn't seen their loved one from anywhere from a week to six months or more gets to see only a corpse who is still programmed to kill everything on site. And the corpse will be dressed in military regalia. There have been instances where LDS men were buried in their uniforms, rather than the clothing that LDS men should be buried in. And the families only get to walk away with 1 item, a sign from the goverment of seeking forgiveness. A flag. an american flag. Yes it is a symbol of freedom and rights. But it is also a symbol of death. Isn't it amazing of how a good symbol can also have negative meaning? So this brings me to my conclusion, You either go in and never come back, or don't go in at all.
|
 |
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:02 am
I was in the Army National Guard for 4 years. I was deployed to Afghanistan for 6 months. I went in and endured the boot camp you spoke of and now I am a civilian again. I have been a civilian for more than 6 years now and have not gone psychotic or committed any crimes violent or otherwise. I present myself as an example that soldiers are thinking feeling people, not mindless killing machines. I find your essay to be somewhat contradictory. You start by saying the armed forces are great and then spend paragraphs implying that they have gone too far. How do you reconcile that? Do you think they are great or that they have gone too far? Is what you meant to say that you appreciate the work and sacrifice that individual people and families have given to protect your freedom and rights, but you don't agree with how the US military operates? I can accept whatever your opinion is and I know there are a lot of citizens out there who hold that opinion. I can think of a couple of solutions. First, if you don't like how the US military operates and you are a US citizen then you can write your elected official and ask them to change how it works. But if you are going to do that, please put some thought into it. There is so much injustice and tragedy surrounding warfare that it is easy to point out things you don't like. I don't think it is as easy to come up with a better system, not without at least studying why the current system is the way it is. Lastly, we could avoid all the problems that come with military power by avoiding international conflict in the first place. I can not pretend that I know how to do this, but I would like to shake the hand of anyone who can further this cause.
|
 |
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:31 am
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." -John Stewart Mill-
|
 |
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:28 pm
jungleratrob I was in the Army National Guard for 4 years. I was deployed to Afghanistan for 6 months. I went in and endured the boot camp you spoke of and now I am a civilian again. I have been a civilian for more than 6 years now and have not gone psychotic or committed any crimes violent or otherwise. I present myself as an example that soldiers are thinking feeling people, not mindless killing machines. I find your essay to be somewhat contradictory. You start by saying the armed forces are great and then spend paragraphs implying that they have gone too far. How do you reconcile that? Do you think they are great or that they have gone too far? Is what you meant to say that you appreciate the work and sacrifice that individual people and families have given to protect your freedom and rights, but you don't agree with how the US military operates? I can accept whatever your opinion is and I know there are a lot of citizens out there who hold that opinion. I can think of a couple of solutions. First, if you don't like how the US military operates and you are a US citizen then you can write your elected official and ask them to change how it works. But if you are going to do that, please put some thought into it. There is so much injustice and tragedy surrounding warfare that it is easy to point out things you don't like. I don't think it is as easy to come up with a better system, not without at least studying why the current system is the way it is. Lastly, we could avoid all the problems that come with military power by avoiding international conflict in the first place. I can not pretend that I know how to do this, but I would like to shake the hand of anyone who can further this cause. First of all, I apologize for any hurt feelings that may or may not be there. secondly, look at the date of my original post. Since then my opinion has changed to this, armed forces, I won't deny that you do good for our country and I thank you for it. I won't join the armed forces because I have no desire for that type of lifestyle.
|
 |
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:03 pm
Its cool. I do feel strongly on the subject but my feelings weren't hurt.
|
 |
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:57 am
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:33 pm
Yes. I am curious what everyone else's thoughts/feelings on the subject are.
|
 |
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:12 am
My father is retired military. I think the military is WONDERFUL they do great things I have no particular desire to join with them. The families of those in the military are very strong in my eyes. I could not bear it to send my husband away fro a year or more not knowing what he is doing or if he will come back. Sonicrunner001 you should know that we have stayed up countless nights having this discussion. I support our troops 100% i might not support the master and commander but thats not the point smile
|
 |
 |
|
|
|
lilcutiepie23456 Vice Captain
|
|
|
|
|
|
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|