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Dieonysos
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:09 pm


So were still living with our knuckles in the dirt...
What are your cogitations on human evolution?
Are we expediating the walk to the uber mensch?
Gift me with your goodness forum
PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:37 pm


Okay, LoL rofl I'm not sure what exactly you asked me with that last very detailed question...You seem to have high vocabulary mrgreen
But for evolution...I've been thinking about that a lot lately.

When Charles Darwin created the evolution theory, he had some very good keypoints. For example, he explained that different animals developed certain traits to endure the wild. Hummingbirds acquired long beaks for their instinct to withdraw nectar from a plant, and different species of praying mantises grew leaflike bodies to hide in their surroundings. All in all, this makes sense to me, but I'm not exactly positive I believe the theory about human evolution. I mean, there may come a thousand years when humans start developing bigger heads to acquire more information(for example). But to my mind it's like saying we're going to be dumped in a tub of toxic waste to obtain superhuman powers. What really gets me is that I believe in other crazy things and yet somehow I'm still wondering about this one. Do you have any theories that might help me untangle my confusion?

maruku_chan
Captain


Dieonysos
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:15 pm


mika_babykiss
Okay, LoL rofl I'm not sure what exactly you asked me with that last very detailed question...You seem to have high vocabulary mrgreen
But for evolution...I've been thinking about that a lot lately.

When Charles Darwin created the evolution theory, he had some very good keypoints. For example, he explained that different animals developed certain traits to endure the wild. Hummingbirds acquired long beaks for their instinct to withdraw nectar from a plant, and different species of praying mantises grew leaflike bodies to hide in their surroundings. All in all, this makes sense to me, but I'm not exactly positive I believe the theory about human evolution. I mean, there may come a thousand years when humans start developing bigger heads to acquire more information(for example). But to my mind it's like saying we're going to be dumped in a tub of toxic waste to obtain superhuman powers. What really gets me is that I believe in other crazy things and yet somehow I'm still wondering about this one. Do you have any theories that might help me untangle my confusion?


I will do my best to assuage your confusion..
Evolution as a theory is based on survival and efficacy

Using technology as a crutch humans have impeded the process of physiological development..
But psychological development, I believe, is reaching an epiphany

God is dead.. with the refutation of the old religions man is soaring beyond dependence on the numinous

We are realizing that we are sovereign not only over our mental processes but also the motion of the things around us

In order to fully realize this development we must oversimplify our daily processes.. reduce it down to the meanest behaviors

Of course this is estranged from social practicality, but if Thoreau did it, why should we be any different?

We have reached the noon of man.. we can no longer see the shadow of our barbarous past, and are free to look forward into our collective consciousness

It starts with but a drop of the divine.. but the undulations that will ensue ensure the rich harvest of nirvana

keep talking to me sweetheart
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:05 pm


Haha...not that I'm disrespecting you, but can you please explain that to me in English? [I have a hard time figuring out your high vocabulary sweatdrop whee ]

maruku_chan
Captain


LucidaOfIce

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:09 pm


Dieonysos
mika_babykiss
Okay, LoL rofl I'm not sure what exactly you asked me with that last very detailed question...You seem to have high vocabulary mrgreen
But for evolution...I've been thinking about that a lot lately.

When Charles Darwin created the evolution theory, he had some very good keypoints. For example, he explained that different animals developed certain traits to endure the wild. Hummingbirds acquired long beaks for their instinct to withdraw nectar from a plant, and different species of praying mantises grew leaflike bodies to hide in their surroundings. All in all, this makes sense to me, but I'm not exactly positive I believe the theory about human evolution. I mean, there may come a thousand years when humans start developing bigger heads to acquire more information(for example). But to my mind it's like saying we're going to be dumped in a tub of toxic waste to obtain superhuman powers. What really gets me is that I believe in other crazy things and yet somehow I'm still wondering about this one. Do you have any theories that might help me untangle my confusion?


I will do my best to assuage your confusion..
Evolution as a theory is based on survival and efficacy

Using technology as a crutch humans have impeded the process of physiological development..
But psychological development, I believe, is reaching an epiphany

God is dead.. with the refutation of the old religions man is soaring beyond dependence on the numinous

We are realizing that we are sovereign not only over our mental processes but also the motion of the things around us

In order to fully realize this development we must oversimplify our daily processes.. reduce it down to the meanest behaviors

Of course this is estranged from social practicality, but if Thoreau did it, why should we be any different?

We have reached the noon of man.. we can no longer see the shadow of our barbarous past, and are free to look forward into our collective consciousness

It starts with but a drop of the divine.. but the undulations that will ensue ensure the rich harvest of nirvana

keep talking to me sweetheart

So what is the epiphany and what do we evolve into from here?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:24 pm


mika_babykiss
Haha...not that I'm disrespecting you, but can you please explain that to me in English? [I have a hard time figuring out your high vocabulary sweatdrop whee ]



Apologies..

Hmm..

What im trying to describe is a new renaissance. A rebirth of humanistic ideals and the effacing of the superstitious and fear based reliance on the vice of religion

We are going to become gods once again

Dieonysos
Vice Captain


maruku_chan
Captain

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:22 pm


Dieonysos
mika_babykiss
Haha...not that I'm disrespecting you, but can you please explain that to me in English? [I have a hard time figuring out your high vocabulary sweatdrop whee ]



Apologies..

Hmm..

What im trying to describe is a new renaissance. A rebirth of humanistic ideals and the effacing of the superstitious and fear based reliance on the vice of religion

We are going to become gods once again

Ah, and wouldn't that be the day...If we'd all just get our heads out of our asses...pardon my french to the people whom I have offended... whee
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:48 pm


mika_babykiss
Dieonysos
mika_babykiss
Haha...not that I'm disrespecting you, but can you please explain that to me in English? [I have a hard time figuring out your high vocabulary sweatdrop whee ]



Apologies..

Hmm..

What im trying to describe is a new renaissance. A rebirth of humanistic ideals and the effacing of the superstitious and fear based reliance on the vice of religion

We are going to become gods once again

Ah, and wouldn't that be the day...If we'd all just get our heads out of our asses...pardon my french to the people whom I have offended... whee


I firmly believe it is on the horizon.. each one of us is a contemporary bodhisattva.. or.. one who refuses nirvana so that they might enlighten the masses

Dieonysos
Vice Captain


LucidaOfIce

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:31 pm


Dieonysos
mika_babykiss
Haha...not that I'm disrespecting you, but can you please explain that to me in English? [I have a hard time figuring out your high vocabulary sweatdrop whee ]



Apologies..

Hmm..

What im trying to describe is a new renaissance. A rebirth of humanistic ideals and the effacing of the superstitious and fear based reliance on the vice of religion

We are going to become gods once again

Well, I deffinately feel there will be some spiritual growth among the majority, but as far as Gods go, nothing even close. HAHA...sorry.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:31 pm


Humankind has certainly evolved, but I do not think that we are reaching a "psychological epiphany," or, if we are, it is at the cost of further evolution. As a species, we have come to harness the powers of the land and other organisms, but it has made our other senses weak. Compared to other animals, we have weak senses of hearing, smell, and eyesight. Although scientific advancement ensures that most of us will live to an old age despite these deficiencies, this negates the process of natural selection that is at the root of Darwin's Theory of Evolution. Because we don't spend our time fighting for survival, as we would in the absence of technology, our minds are left idle. This idleness yields more time to think, to attempt to reach a "psychological epiphany." We assume that, because we can think, we are superior to other life and may even come to believe ourselves gods. This is, in my opinion, the most dangerous conclusion we can come to. If we are gods, we cannot be wrong; this mentality detaches us from our actions and leads us to harm the very environment that enabled us to evolve to this point.

HiroXHiro


radish19

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:57 pm


I've always wondered if modern medicine is keeping us from being immune to diseases. For example, many of the germs or viruses that cause disease have evolved to become resistant to medicine. Will we be able to keep up with them? Or will the drug-resistant diseases kill us all?

Just something I've always wondered...
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