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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:02 am
Is anyone else here involved in a relationship with someone who never went beyond highschool while you're either in or have graduate post secondary?
How do you deal with school bashing? Or do you have to deal with it?
I'm just getting really frustrated in my relationship right now because my bf is constantly telling me what a waste of time and money school is and that I shouldn't do it becuase it's pointless. I try and be understanding because really for what he does he doesn't need the schooling tha tI do...It's just hard. suggestions?
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:25 am
I have some friends who went straight into the workforce or are doing full-time work with part-time community college, so there's some negative feelings towards those of us who are full-time University with part-time work. It can be tough to explain it to some people, but I think once you go over some of the facts and figures about it, he'll hopefully be more receptive. Just explain to him that in your field, you need to have a higher education and that the more education you get, the higher the pay you'll receive, which in the long run is much better to have you stick it out for now rather than go straight into the workforce. Times are really changing for a lot of jobs in the country where the level of education to receive good pay is going up. I have a lot of friends who are alumni right now who are all either planning to or are pursuing a masters because they can get better jobs with them. Also, it's much better for women to get college degrees, they get paid on average almost double what their high-school diploma counterparts get (according to the last stats I saw, taken circa 2001-2002.)
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:08 pm
When I was in high school I wanted to go straight into the work force. My senior year I decided I wanted to give the post high school education life a chance. I have never looked back since then, IMO everyone should give the university life a chance.
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:27 pm
Just saying, your BF seems like a piece of work. If you're going to school to pursue your dream then it is not a "waste of time and money." A college degree is good for many things when trying to get a job, even when that job is NOT in your major.
Tell your BF that this degree isn't a waste of time and money to you and that it is really important. If he can't seem to recognize that some people and jobs need the degree and that some don't I believe you should stop arguing with him and move on.
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 7:15 pm
WolvenMoon Just saying, your BF seems like a piece of work. If you're going to school to pursue your dream then it is not a "waste of time and money." A college degree is good for many things when trying to get a job, even when that job is NOT in your major. Tell your BF that this degree isn't a waste of time and money to you and that it is really important. If he can't seem to recognize that some people and jobs need the degree and that some don't I believe you should stop arguing with him and move on. I agree.
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:50 pm
I was in a relationship where the guy didn't want to go to school and thought it was a waste of time, also. He was also a pretty ignorant person whose life wasn't going anywhere, and even though I loved him, I couldn't live that life with him.
I would suggest you no longer date men who are not pursuing a higher education. It may be cold to say so, but college really is the way to go, whether it's university or just community college. But get something. You deserve someone better than that.
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:03 am
MissMarie I was in a relationship where the guy didn't want to go to school and thought it was a waste of time, also. He was also a pretty ignorant person whose life wasn't going anywhere, and even though I loved him, I couldn't live that life with him. I would suggest you no longer date men who are not pursuing a higher education. It may be cold to say so, but college really is the way to go, whether it's university or just community college. But get something. You deserve someone better than that. I think there really is a difference between the two situations. My man is a published writer and he's good at it. He has a good job and supports himself quite nicely on it and it gives him time to write. It's not that he's not going anywhere in life, he's just not overly supportive of school in general. We've talkedabout it a bit more, and I think a large part of his issue at the moment is that my being in school really does take away from our time together and such. He's getting better about badmouthing it, but yeah. Generally I'd agree that college is the way to go, but for some career choices it really isn't necessary. Heck if I could do what I wanted to without college I wouldn't be here...I'm a horrid student...but I do see your point in general. thanks for your input
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:39 pm
my bf had a 6 month trade school program, while i'm going the 4 year route, which is taking me about 6, lol, but he's been very supportive of my choices. If your man keeps it up just be like i'm doing school either shut up and deal with it or i'm gonna dump you. it may be hard to lay it out like that but if he isnt supportive now, he may not support you in other things later
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:56 pm
neko_shojo MissMarie I was in a relationship where the guy didn't want to go to school and thought it was a waste of time, also. He was also a pretty ignorant person whose life wasn't going anywhere, and even though I loved him, I couldn't live that life with him. I would suggest you no longer date men who are not pursuing a higher education. It may be cold to say so, but college really is the way to go, whether it's university or just community college. But get something. You deserve someone better than that. I think there really is a difference between the two situations. My man is a published writer and he's good at it. He has a good job and supports himself quite nicely on it and it gives him time to write. It's not that he's not going anywhere in life, he's just not overly supportive of school in general. We've talkedabout it a bit more, and I think a large part of his issue at the moment is that my being in school really does take away from our time together and such. He's getting better about badmouthing it, but yeah. Generally I'd agree that college is the way to go, but for some career choices it really isn't necessary. Heck if I could do what I wanted to without college I wouldn't be here...I'm a horrid student...but I do see your point in general. thanks for your input The only thing I'd like to point out is there's another angle. Yeah, for some, college is the answer, for their career path or for other reasons. But everyone, don't forget that for some, college/university just isn't the right path. My best friend for example, she's just not the school type. There's nothing wrong with her, but she just cannot excel at research papers or essays. Currently, she works at an old folks' home, making food and serving it, eating with the residents and brightening up their day. *shrugs* She's happy, and I think that is what matters. In contrast, I'm at post-secondary because I both like school and learning, and the career I would like to end up in needs at least a Masters.
MissMarie especially, can you see my point? Just because a guy doesn't get any post-secondary education doesn't mean that they're necessarily "ignorant", or lower in any way, and I really don't think advising someone to no longer date men who are not pursuing a higher education is fair to those men; it really all depends on what type of person/characteristics you're looking for.
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:40 pm
both routes are very different, and as I am applying to PhD programs right now, I can truthfully say I've really committed to the long term (and if I don't get into a PhD right away, then I am going to do a masters and then try again for the PhD)
its hard to explain to others that 8 to 10 more years of education is worth it, but mostly because we are probably under the misconception that being young is about partying and 'enjoying life'. Truthfully, AFTER I get my PhD I will probably have another 40 years of enjoyable life ahead of me.
And because that is true, the best long term investment for many people is SOME SORT of education, whether it be trade school, college, graduate school, or apprenticeship. People who have training of any kind are much more likely to have good jobs, and statistics show that people with masters and PhDs show the biggest differences in salaries on average from those who do not possess those degrees. (there is an awesome poster of those stats near my campuses Equal Opportunity Program office)
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:48 am
College isn't for everyone - my boyfriend, for example, works for a railroad. It's the best paying job you can get in our area if you don't have a college degree. He told me what he wants to do, and the school he'd have to go there, but says "It's too late for me." (He says he doesn't want to work FT and go to school PT for 8 years so he can start a new job when he's 40) He's older than I am, so he's been in his current career for a while - and that's his choice.
Myself, on the other hand - I'm still pursing my BS. I'm taking finals this week for the last courses towards my AA at a community college in our town, and in January I'm going to start commuting. He is supportive of my decision. Yes, I know it takes away from our time together, but so does about anything else. That's a part of life. If I wasn't going to school, I would be working full time, which also takes away from our time together.
Just because he works (I'm assuming) at home and gets to dictate when he works or when he doesn't doesn't mean that *everybody* is able to. He should be supportive of your decision to get a better career (career, not job) to help improve both of your futures.
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:30 pm
IMO its actually a good thing to have finished college or even just high school because u get more opportunities for work. In my country here in asia, lots of teens would want to study for free in high school but they couldn't due to financial problems so they have to work instead but those kids usually crave for knowledge and they wish they could go to school too. Teens in the western countries are more blessed coz they can go to school for free and they don't even have to pay their tuition fees and stuff. I must agree with dchan that he should be supportive of whatever decisions u do in your life like going to school because in the end it'll have an effect for the both of u in the future. If he really loves u he'll support u all the way like the same way u did for him. So do talk to him about it if it bothers u that u feel like he's bashing on u for going to school. Explain to him why u are going to school and what benefits will u get from finishing it. good luck
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