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 Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:00 am
Elsalamo Alikom.
I heard lots of opinions about thais. Lots of people tell me that music is haram.But lots of people tell me its not. I wanted to discuss this with you guys and know your opinions.
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:59 am
The Prophet (pbuh) was sung to at least once. As long as it does not lead you away from Islam I see no problem with it (more or less what Al Islam said on the matter as well).
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:44 am
There is a hadith about the prophet and his sahahba passing a farmer who was playing a flute, the prophet covered his ears as they passed and told the sahaba (companions) to tell him when the man had finished. If it had been haram why would the prophet allow them to listen. Many people have heard that and so take from it the meaning that it isnt haram, i listen but not to explicit lyrics, but do not follow me, first research and when your convienced with something is halal go with it, the prophet (SAW) said " Leave that which leaves you in doubt to that which doesnt"
Salam
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:40 pm
Maha the Wizard The Prophet (pbuh) was sung to at least once. As long as it does not lead you away from Islam I see no problem with it (more or less what Al Islam said on the matter as well). I think that Music is not haram. Everyone listenes to it atleast ONCE in their life. I also agree with Wizard.
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:18 pm
There are a lot of different opinions. I would check with as many people as possible instead of listening to ONE specific person, because there are different schools of thought and some people might have different opinions.
Me? I block out the lyrics most of the time. But if their morally okay, I listen to them.
Question for everyone: recently I bought a christian CD. They're not a REALLY religous christian band, it's just songs with good morals, like 'i need to get back on the right path' and stuff like that. No Jesus or anything explicit. Is that okay or forbidden? >> <<
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:39 am
I don't think music is haram as much as pork, alcohol, or dancing is haram. I think the reason in Islam it is taught not to listen to music is because most music is accompanied by dancing, which leads to sexual thoughts and actions. Otherwise it's fine. I mean if you are not taking out the bad aspects of music (such as swearing and stuff and just listen to it for amusement). Also, in the western culture it is kind of difficult to stay away from music. I mean when you are watching television and a commercial comes up where there is music are you supposed to plug your ears? I don't think so. I mean I listen to music all the time and some music actually sends peaceful messages out to people where the people are feeled compelled to do something.....for example the song Where is the Love by black eyed peas. But, it must be remembered and noted that all music is not like this. In fact most music is made for romantic purposes. But that's my opinion. According to the religious opinion: In Buddhism Buddha stated as one of his 10 commandements: 9. Abstain from dancing, singing, music or worldly spectacles. In Islam Hazrat Mirza Tahir Ahmad(ra) - 07 Aug 94 - 1 minutes - Liqama'al Arab - Eng/Ara says: windows audio
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:30 pm
When I lived with the Bedu there was much singing and dancing. I am not sure of the lyrics ... some of them might have been a little naughty ... I am guessing because the men seemed to be laughing so much. sweatdrop
Also there was much singing as they labored digging. They sang best on payday when all the workers gathered to make their account. 4laugh
If it gives praise and worship to the Almighty, then it is a good thing. Much of Western Music falls under the definition of haram. Even I do not listen to this! Christian music should be okay as far as it makes one think of the Almighty of how Allah is watching us. heart
Jesus is benevolent and as far as this benevolence influences Muslims to be kind to the poor, then what is the harm? But obey your fathers in all wisdom, little brothers and sisters! When you obey, then you cannot go wrong. neutral 3nodding
Love your family and obey your father; kiss your dear mother's hand and make her happy this day! You will be blessed!
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:32 pm
I am the one redface who voted music is haram. Why? Because too much music is very bad in Western pop-Culture and I cannot advise it.
I make many exceptions to the haram ruling, however. 4laugh
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:02 am
.a.r.a.s.h.i. There are a lot of different opinions. I would check with as many people as possible instead of listening to ONE specific person, because there are different schools of thought and some people might have different opinions. Me? I block out the lyrics most of the time. But if their morally okay, I listen to them. Question for everyone: recently I bought a christian CD. They're not a REALLY religous christian band, it's just songs with good morals, like 'i need to get back on the right path' and stuff like that. No Jesus or anything explicit. Is that okay or forbidden? >> << I don't see any problem with it, as you are going with good intentions. Just watch out for what they say is all.
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:04 am
Noora of God I am the one redface who voted music is haram. Why? Because too much music is very bad in Western pop-Culture and I cannot advise it. I make many exceptions to the haram ruling, however. 4laugh I was going to make a statement just like this. blaugh As I said before music in itself is not bad. However when 90% of music produced is about degrading habits or practices it is something to be well aware of. I think this is why alot of people are against it...better to disregard the matter altogether than try to sort through and find good songs. I think this is how they would see it anyway.
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:48 pm
SubhanAllah, I'm pretty surprised at some answers. No offense, but I don't think any of us have the authority to say what is or isn't haram. This kind of matter should be left up to the scholars and people of knowledge. If one should ask a question about music, they should at least address it as such, "Is it permissible to listen to music?" That way, all opinions of scholars are taken into this account, and it is neither halal nor haram but to some extent, it is permissible and in other ways, it is not permissible. Different scholars have different opinions as to what is permissible, like using the duff (drum without bottom), or listening to music without instruments. IslamQA has a very descriptive answer that follows with proofs from the Qur'aan and Sunnah. http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref=5000&ln=engYou guys should take a look at that. You can also search for other terms or topics that talk about music, singing and dancing as well. WaAllahu a'alam. May Allah forgive us of our mistakes, and anything that I have said correctly is by the Mercy of Allah, and anything I have said incorrectly is from Shaytaan and my nafs.
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:18 pm
TenshiHito SubhanAllah, I'm pretty surprised at some answers. No offense, but I don't think any of us have the authority to say what is or isn't haram. This kind of matter should be left up to the scholars and people of knowledge. If one should ask a question about music, they should at least address it as such, "Is it permissible to listen to music?" That way, all opinions of scholars are taken into this account, and it is neither halal nor haram but to some extent, it is permissible and in other ways, it is not permissible. Different scholars have different opinions as to what is permissible, like using the duff (drum without bottom), or listening to music without instruments. IslamQA has a very descriptive answer that follows with proofs from the Qur'aan and Sunnah. http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref=5000&ln=engSYou guys should take a look at that. You can also search for other terms or topics that talk about music, singing and dancing as well. WaAllahu a'alam. May Allah forgive us of our mistakes, and anything that I have said correctly is by the Mercy of Allah, and anything I have said incorrectly is from Shaytaan and my nafs. for sharing this! I didn't know!
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:35 am
TenshiHito SubhanAllah, I'm pretty surprised at some answers. No offense, but I don't think any of us have the authority to say what is or isn't haram. This kind of matter should be left up to the scholars and people of knowledge. If one should ask a question about music, they should at least address it as such, "Is it permissible to listen to music?" That way, all opinions of scholars are taken into this account, and it is neither halal nor haram but to some extent, it is permissible and in other ways, it is not permissible. Different scholars have different opinions as to what is permissible, like using the duff (drum without bottom), or listening to music without instruments. IslamQA has a very descriptive answer that follows with proofs from the Qur'aan and Sunnah. http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref=5000&ln=engYou guys should take a look at that. You can also search for other terms or topics that talk about music, singing and dancing as well. WaAllahu a'alam. May Allah forgive us of our mistakes, and anything that I have said correctly is by the Mercy of Allah, and anything I have said incorrectly is from Shaytaan and my nafs. I do not think it is so much us judging what is haram or not, but rather what we personally find acceptable. After all you cannot always know the proper Islamic response to everything, and that is why it is important to have an understanding at least of the basics, and know what is right or wrong. Then you can make honest decisions until you find a more official answer. And of course as you have mentioned, with some topics such as music I have heard it both ways from different scholars. Sometimes it is up to the believer to make the best choice out of many.
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:17 pm
Very few things in the Islamic religion are actually haram. Music is not amoung them. A lot of the time what happens is that people mix their culture with the religion itself. Just because you personally have a problem with music for whatever reason, which you have every right to, to go so far as to say that Islam forbids it is a huge exaggeration.
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:55 pm
.a.r.a.s.h.i. There are a lot of different opinions. I would check with as many people as possible instead of listening to ONE specific person, because there are different schools of thought and some people might have different opinions. Me? I block out the lyrics most of the time. But if their morally okay, I listen to them. Question for everyone: recently I bought a christian CD. They're not a REALLY religous christian band, it's just songs with good morals, like 'i need to get back on the right path' and stuff like that. No Jesus or anything explicit. Is that okay or forbidden? >> << Wa Alaikum Asalam If listening to christian bands is forbidden then I'd be in trouble... I'm currently hooked on Skillet...a christian rock group. Now that I think about it, why would it be forbidden, if it's not forbidden to associate with christians and people of other religious backgrounds, why would it be forbidden to listen to their music. Also that would rise the question of the popular music that most americans listen to... I think it's safe to assume that almost all of the more popular singers aren't muslim, and yet we listen to their music, or is that just me? Anyway, I don't think music is haram. Any kind of music is alright with me as long as I'm not listening to someone saying "worship jesus and be saved" or something along those lines. I have heard, though, the opinion that some believe that music is haram. while I was in morocco with my family this summer, my brother would go with my cousins to the mosque and then go to their house with them. He would come back saying how music was haram. it's all a matter of perspective.
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