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Fuyeyo Karasawa

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:56 pm


THE NAU

Discuss.

True?
Untrue?

Are we being pupeteered?


edit: added Zeitgeist the full movie



and this:


WE MUST STOP THE POLICE STATE
BY EXPOSING 9/11

Though many different frauds are addressed in Zeitgeist, at the present time the most important issue is exposing 9/11 and thus exposing government sponsored Terrorism. If we do not, they will erode all of our civil liberties and an oppressive, military style, surveillance based Police State will take firm root.

On Aug. 4th 2007, the Senate passed the Bush backed 'spy bill', which preserves & expands the illegal domestic spying program. I hope people are educated enough by this time to know that such legislations have nothing to do with Terrorism, and everything to do with monitoring and controlling American dissent.

Furthermore, on May 9 2007, Bush signed the
National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive,
which gives Bush near full dictatorial powers in the event of a "National Emergency". Bush, and the people he works for, will be able to do ANYTHING they want if a "National Emergency" is deemed. All they need is a "New 9/11".
The US Constitution will no longer be applicable.

In regards to this Directive, Paul Craig Roberts, a former Assistant
Secretary of the Treasury during the Reagan administration, has come
out and said he feels the White House is preparing to STAGE A NEW 9/11 and the executive order is designed to capitalize on such an attack, specifically to impose Martial Law and Invade Iran.

IN ORDER TO STOP MARTIAL LAW AND THE TOTAL DESTRUCTION
OF THE US CONSTITUTION, WE MUST STOP ANOTHER FALSE
FLAG ATTACK. THE FIRST STEP IS TO EXPOSE THE 9/11 FRAUD.
THIS IS THE EVENT THAT IS BEING USED TO JUSTIFY THE DEVELOPING POLICE STATE, NOT TO MENTION WORLDWIDE OPPRESSION.


Taken from-http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/activism.htm
PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:36 pm


I ask why has no congressmen come froward of this? Since it should be a insider thing. I mean Obama, Hillery. Could they be on it also then? Just at just it seems like the narrator is trying to make you believe the same lies the media has with no facts. While he states of using media over and over again to drill into the heads of people. Those trackers are not as powerful nor is the networking capable for that much information at this time. I look at this with many thoughts of the government and what this person is trying to say without more facts to back his claims.

UF6


Fuyeyo Karasawa

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:24 am


I think it would make more sense if the entire movie was watched..I'm watching it about an hour of it done. So far I got this

1.Christinity is a copy of egyptian ideals.

2.9/11s building pancaking has alot of similarities to planted bomb.

3. building 7 fell without a plane hitting it. yet people saw an explosion.

4.All dollars are lent out with interest, sending a country into a debt of unlimited proportions.

5.the media is dumbing us down, the no child left behind act in the US is dumbing them down so they cannot think for themselves any longer, to trust everything they are told.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:11 pm


Fuyeyo Karasawa
I think it would make more sense if the entire movie was watched..I'm watching it about an hour of it done. So far I got this

1.Christinity is a copy of egyptian ideals.

2.9/11s building pancaking has alot of similarities to planted bomb.

3. building 7 fell without a plane hitting it. yet people saw an explosion.

4.All dollars are lent out with interest, sending a country into a debt of unlimited proportions.

5.the media is dumbing us down, the no child left behind act in the US is dumbing them down so they cannot think for themselves any longer, to trust everything they are told.
Religion copies each other, Christianity is a knock off of Judiusm and they are a knock off or other religious from Egypt, Sumeria, Babylon ect.Islam knocked off Christianity among many others.

September Eleventh hypothesis fail to even be one, because all these people don't know physics, if they did which half of America thinks of negative of because it degrades Jesus then we would be better. Also a attack like that the only way you can really hide the evidence is to file it. Covering something that big up is not possible.

Money is taxed and more US dollars are lent out of country than in.

UF6


Koon

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:14 pm


rolleyes Yes because the government is skilled enough to pull something of this magnitude off. I think alot of people give the government too much credit.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:06 pm


Just 2 weeks ago. the Manitoba Government (It's a province in Canada) Had announced that it's plans for the "Inhanced drivers liscence" which would allow Canadians and Americans to cross the border withour a passport was part of the newly announced plan to make a "Mid Continental Trade Corridor"
Which is the exact same thing as the NAFTA Super-Highway, just with a different name. The plans they've shown for it are exactly the same as almost all the pictures people have been posting of the NAFTA super-highway.

Such a plan would take years in planning to get it to the point they have it now, yet just a few months ago at the Montabello summit, bush said that he found it "Humourous" that people actually thaught there was going to be such a thing, and that no such plans have been done, or are goiong to be in the forseeable future.
Harper then backed him up saying that we're all crazy conspiracy theorists who also think there's gonna be an Interplanetary highway.

At the stage they have the MCTC, againg; would have taken much more than just the few months since Montabello, and is involving many of the 30 large cooporations that were at the Montabello summit.

Admiral Smort


Koon

PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:30 pm


^I dunno, that sounds alot like the whole thing with the Amero.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:03 am


Well, if the state has no qualms about viciously killing 3,000 of its own citizens, and greatly damaging its economy, why not just make everybody with all these "facts" about 9/11 "disapear?"

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Maryhl

Shy Werewolf

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:15 pm


REDGallenger
Well, if the state has no qualms about viciously killing 3,000 of its own citizens, and greatly damaging its economy, why not just make everybody with all these "facts" about 9/11 "disapear?"


Cuz that's not the American way. We write people off as crazies and undergo a strict regimen of character assassination. We all know these "fact-based" people hate America. ninja
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:26 am


Demon Kagerou
REDGallenger
Well, if the state has no qualms about viciously killing 3,000 of its own citizens, and greatly damaging its economy, why not just make everybody with all these "facts" about 9/11 "disapear?"


Cuz that's not the American way. We write people off as crazies and undergo a strict regimen of character assassination. We all know these "fact-based" people hate America. ninja
They don't bother me and I want people to question, but it gets old when you have these people, "beating a dead horse" over issues that have been explained. It would be nice Mary to see actual engineers talk about this than Hollywood or a Pockybot.

UF6


Admiral Smort

PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 10:32 pm


The reason the U.S. did 9/11 was ofcourse to go into the middle-east for oil, and to set up pernament military bases there.

It was also to increase military spending, and prolong the war, so that more will be spent.

Since the Federal Reserve is a private corporation, which the U.S. government borrows its currency from at intrest; the more spending; the more borrowing; more profit for the world bankers who own the Federal Reserve.

It was also to remove peoples freedoms, and even some human rights for ther "Protection".
PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:05 am


*shrugs* I'm really not one to get into conspiracy theories regarding 9/11... but I'm equally as opposed to letting 9/11 be the driving force behind US foreign policy, so.

Lady Merewyn


Le Pere Duchesne
Captain

Beloved Prophet

PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:02 am


Conspiacy theories? the bourgoisie doesnt need conspiracies. And as long as there is no need for a dictatorship the bourgeoisie will not resort to it.



chill.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:26 am


Indeed Gracchvs, not to meantion that the US already had military bases and keen allies throughout the middle east. It's not a new development.

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