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Milendil
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:12 pm


Otherkin are people who believe themselves to contain the soul of mythological creatures such as elves, dragons, fae, phoenix, angels, etc.

Therians are people who believe themselves to contain the soul of Earthly animals such as wolves, cats, pumas, dogs, etc.

If anyone wants to know, I am an otherkin; I am an elf.

What are your thoughts/opinions? Do you have any questions?
PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:46 am


My opinion? It's all wishful thinking, especially "vampires". Find me a description of a vampire actually resembling a human before the advent of modern vampire fiction and I'll give you all the tea in China.

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Milendil
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 4:46 pm


It very well could be wishful thinking, but at least its fun!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 1:09 am


Actually I think the reason most people don't beleive in otherkin is because of two factors. A lot of other kin types are drawn from characters used in fantasy novels, however few people realize that the characters in fantasy novels started with some sort of mythological basis. The second reason is people think too much in the flesh. If there are other worlds and in another world in the spirit world your true self is something other than human, then BY TECHNICALITY you are other kin. However often times people get stupid with otherkin, for instance, i refuse to believe in vampire otherkin for the simple sake that it probably came from hp lovecraft, as did the necronomicon, people too often see only what they want to see. So in theory otherkin makes perfect sense, but people don't always go about the most intelligent ways of talking about it. As far as mythology goes, elves were in norse mythology, dragons were in mythology and all sorts of stuff. on a rare occasion people in norway will see a physical elf or dwarf. or even scandinavia. but times change, so for me it depends on the other kin, vampires i see as full of s**t, most animal types like rabbit kin i am skeptical of but i could see as true, elvish otherkin i believe is true, even dragon otherkin, because if it's a spirit on the other side then it can have an earthly counterpart. and not all spirits are human by any means.

Satrevi


CabrionDeluviant

PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 9:10 am


lol, i'll keep an eye out for 'em, elves n dwarves, that is.

anyway, most people who claim to be otherkin or therian are full of it, and usually the rest are kidding themselves.
besides, this is one question that will be answered with death, so i'll worry about it then
PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:28 pm


CabrionDeluviant
lol, i'll keep an eye out for 'em, elves n dwarves, that is.

anyway, most people who claim to be otherkin or therian are full of it, and usually the rest are kidding themselves.
besides, this is one question that will be answered with death, so i'll worry about it then
lol, well said

Satrevi


CabrionDeluviant

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:58 am


Mendele
CabrionDeluviant
lol, i'll keep an eye out for 'em, elves n dwarves, that is.

anyway, most people who claim to be otherkin or therian are full of it, and usually the rest are kidding themselves.
besides, this is one question that will be answered with death, so i'll worry about it then
lol, well said


*bows* thank you
PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:48 pm


Mendele
Actually I think the reason most people don't beleive in otherkin is because of two factors. A lot of other kin types are drawn from characters used in fantasy novels, however few people realize that the characters in fantasy novels started with some sort of mythological basis. The second reason is people think too much in the flesh. If there are other worlds and in another world in the spirit world your true self is something other than human, then BY TECHNICALITY you are other kin. However often times people get stupid with otherkin, for instance, i refuse to believe in vampire otherkin for the simple sake that it probably came from hp lovecraft, as did the necronomicon, people too often see only what they want to see. So in theory otherkin makes perfect sense, but people don't always go about the most intelligent ways of talking about it. As far as mythology goes, elves were in norse mythology, dragons were in mythology and all sorts of stuff. on a rare occasion people in norway will see a physical elf or dwarf. or even scandinavia. but times change, so for me it depends on the other kin, vampires i see as full of s**t, most animal types like rabbit kin i am skeptical of but i could see as true, elvish otherkin i believe is true, even dragon otherkin, because if it's a spirit on the other side then it can have an earthly counterpart. and not all spirits are human by any means.


So because stories are based in mythology, the stories have elements of truth to them? No, sorry. Mythology is mythology because no-one knows the truth in it.

When it comes to vampires I am inclined to agree with you. The modern notion of the human energy sapper was born in fiction, not even in myth replicated by fiction. But vampires didn't come from Lovecraft. The original piece of vampire fiction was "The Vampyre" by John William Polidori in 1816. Lovecraft wasn't born until 1890.

But the reason I don't believe in otherkin? I don't think the universe ******** up and puts spirits in the wrong bodies, for a first part, and I don't think past lives can be remembered at all.

Blind Guardian the 2nd


Satrevi

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 3:13 am


Blind Guardian the 2nd
Mendele
Actually I think the reason most people don't beleive in otherkin is because of two factors. A lot of other kin types are drawn from characters used in fantasy novels, however few people realize that the characters in fantasy novels started with some sort of mythological basis. The second reason is people think too much in the flesh. If there are other worlds and in another world in the spirit world your true self is something other than human, then BY TECHNICALITY you are other kin. However often times people get stupid with otherkin, for instance, i refuse to believe in vampire otherkin for the simple sake that it probably came from hp lovecraft, as did the necronomicon, people too often see only what they want to see. So in theory otherkin makes perfect sense, but people don't always go about the most intelligent ways of talking about it. As far as mythology goes, elves were in norse mythology, dragons were in mythology and all sorts of stuff. on a rare occasion people in norway will see a physical elf or dwarf. or even scandinavia. but times change, so for me it depends on the other kin, vampires i see as full of s**t, most animal types like rabbit kin i am skeptical of but i could see as true, elvish otherkin i believe is true, even dragon otherkin, because if it's a spirit on the other side then it can have an earthly counterpart. and not all spirits are human by any means.


So because stories are based in mythology, the stories have elements of truth to them? No, sorry. Mythology is mythology because no-one knows the truth in it.

When it comes to vampires I am inclined to agree with you. The modern notion of the human energy sapper was born in fiction, not even in myth replicated by fiction. But vampires didn't come from Lovecraft. The original piece of vampire fiction was "The Vampyre" by John William Polidori in 1816. Lovecraft wasn't born until 1890.

But the reason I don't believe in otherkin? I don't think the universe ******** up and puts spirits in the wrong bodies, for a first part, and I don't think past lives can be remembered at all.
well, what if something other than human wishes to expereience being human firsthand to increase their knowledge? Then it wouldn't be the universe ******** up at all, and if past lives can't be remembered, but you believe in past lives, then how do you even know how accurate you are in your belief of past lives?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:21 am


Mendele
well, what if something other than human wishes to expereience being human firsthand to increase their knowledge? Then it wouldn't be the universe ******** up at all, and if past lives can't be remembered, but you believe in past lives, then how do you even know how accurate you are in your belief of past lives?


Reincarnation is not a personal decision, that's why. Karma, and only karma, dictates rebirth.

I might not be accurate at all. I trust others in their observations of reincarnation to make my conclusion for I believe they are more knowledgable and spiritually gifted than I (see: the Buddha). But I believe transmigration makes far more sense than one single passage through life and then an eternal stop-off in the afterlife. Also, seeing as I don't believe in an all powerful creator, I believe it makes more sense to have consciousness in some sort of cycle, rather than a new consciousness being forged every time a life comes into being.

Blind Guardian the 2nd


Satrevi

PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:44 am


Blind Guardian the 2nd
Mendele
well, what if something other than human wishes to expereience being human firsthand to increase their knowledge? Then it wouldn't be the universe ******** up at all, and if past lives can't be remembered, but you believe in past lives, then how do you even know how accurate you are in your belief of past lives?


Reincarnation is not a personal decision, that's why. Karma, and only karma, dictates rebirth.

I might not be accurate at all. I trust others in their observations of reincarnation to make my conclusion for I believe they are more knowledgable and spiritually gifted than I (see: the Buddha). But I believe transmigration makes far more sense than one single passage through life and then an eternal stop-off in the afterlife. Also, seeing as I don't believe in an all powerful creator, I believe it makes more sense to have consciousness in some sort of cycle, rather than a new consciousness being forged every time a life comes into being.
good reason, i don't really agree but good reason,
PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:19 pm


Blind Guardian the 2nd

So because stories are based in mythology, the stories have elements of truth to them? No, sorry. Mythology is mythology because no-one knows the truth in it.


Sorry, but I must disagree... I feel that all stories have some truth to them, be they mythology or "pure" fiction. Even lies often contain some seed of truth, especially if they are good ones. Also, that truth can be found if one looks hard enough, and trusts themself as they look...

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I myself am a mermaid otherkin. mrgreen
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